[SLE] 9.1 TO 10.1 QUESTIONS.
9.0 Pro > 9.1 Pro. For that entire time I have had this fight with
I am contemplating an upgrade from 9.1 Pro to 10.1. I plan to do this with iso disks downloaded from the net. I have two fear / question comments. The first one is pretty straitforward. What files should I back up (independent of the SuSE standard upgrade backups) to insure the transition of procmail / SMTP and MySQL. 95 % of this machines reason to be is to be a mail server and a MySQL server. All mail reading is on the machine either by direct login or by using X Windows on a separate server so there is no POP / IMAP to worry about. Just SMTP and procmail to take incoming mail from net > users mailbox. The second question is much less concrete and I am not expecting much of an answer from the list but all comments welcome. It has to do with NVIDIA drivers and the upgrade. This machine was originally 8.0 the NVIDIA drivers. I have posted to the list many times with these problems and got some great feedback pretty much in the way of "yeah I have seen that too, I do not know what is going on". The problem is losing the entire X Window system. I has happend about 5 times, 3 of those where with respect to upgrading the kernel. Each time when I have fixed it, I have no clue of what I did or if anything I did has made any matter anyway. Some of the things have been reinstalling older or newer drivers from NVIDIA or running the various configuration apps that are on the system such as sax2. Somehow, about 5 months ago I got a combination of driver install / sax2 configuration to work successfully. I do not really have a clue as to what I did but the current kernel / NVIDIA driver combination is working and has worked well for the past 5 months. My question is how I can assure myself of this after the upgrade. As I said above I am more looking for comments here. I know I will be living with a new kernel as part of the upgrade. I just want to know that my GeForce4 Ti video card will work with the new NVIDIA drivers / new kernel combo. I repeat .. All comments welcome. Peace john -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 13:16 -0500, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am contemplating an upgrade from 9.1 Pro to 10.1. I plan to do this with iso disks downloaded from the net.
I have two fear / question comments.
The first one is pretty straitforward. What files should I back up (independent of the SuSE standard upgrade backups) to insure the transition of procmail / SMTP and MySQL. 95 % of this machines reason to be is to be a mail server and a MySQL server. All mail reading is on the machine either by direct login or by using X Windows on a separate server so there is no POP / IMAP to worry about. Just SMTP and procmail to take incoming mail from net > users mailbox.
You cannot upgrade from 9.1 to 10.1 without having a -LOT- of problems. Save your procmail/SMTP settings and export your MySQL database prior to installing a "fresh" system. Then restore the saved settings MySQL database.
9.0 Pro > 9.1 Pro. For that entire time I have had this fight with
The second question is much less concrete and I am not expecting much of an answer from the list but all comments welcome. It has to do with NVIDIA drivers and the upgrade. This machine was originally 8.0 the NVIDIA drivers. I have posted to the list many times with these problems and got some great feedback pretty much in the way of "yeah I have seen that too, I do not know what is going on". The problem is losing the entire X Window system. I has happend about 5 times, 3 of those where with respect to upgrading the kernel. Each time when I have fixed it, I have no clue of what I did or if anything I did has made any matter anyway. Some of the things have been reinstalling older or newer drivers from NVIDIA or running the various configuration apps that are on the system such as sax2.
If this is a server I don't understand the need for "X" to be running. As far as mail being read on this machine use POP as it really easy to setup and use and the fewer people that have access to a server the fewer problems that can come up from its use. I have an old machine I use as my email gateway and wen services and pop the mail from it without problem. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Ken, On Sunday 02 July 2006 15:06, Ken Schneider wrote:
If this is a server I don't understand the need for "X" to be running. As far as mail being read on this machine use POP as it really easy to setup and use and the fewer people that have access to a server the fewer problems that can come up from its use. I have an old machine I use as my email gateway and wen services and pop the mail from it without problem.
Thank you for your comments. You say don't go 9.1 to 10.1 but do a clean install and then restore mail. I guess I would consider that if someone could point me to a complete list of files to keep to restore the procmail / SMTP and MySQL systems on this machine. Do I have to worry about the upgraded procmail and MySQL reading the old data files? As far as your not understanding why I need X to be up, this machine does use two or three accounts that do run various GUI apps such as KIIB for CD / DVD burning and one or two music programs to play music CDs so I do need X. Also I find upgrades with visual YAST easier then command line. On the POP issue, I have just found it way easier over the years to run KMail or evolution served to a remote X Window server then to configure POP. It is more then just not wanting to bother. This way I can have 20+ different email accounts on the server for the different hats I wear and keep the mail all in separate accounts. If I POP the mail to one logged in user on a remote machine then I have to set up multiple accounts with multiple mail folders, save folders, etc. etc on the mail reader of that remote system. I just find running separate Kmails served over X to be way easer, JMHO. Thanks for the comments john -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 15:21 -0500, John N. Alegre wrote:
Ken,
On Sunday 02 July 2006 15:06, Ken Schneider wrote:
If this is a server I don't understand the need for "X" to be running. As far as mail being read on this machine use POP as it really easy to setup and use and the fewer people that have access to a server the fewer problems that can come up from its use. I have an old machine I use as my email gateway and wen services and pop the mail from it without problem.
Thank you for your comments.
You say don't go 9.1 to 10.1 but do a clean install and then restore mail. I guess I would consider that if someone could point me to a complete list of files to keep to restore the procmail / SMTP and MySQL systems on this machine. Do I have to worry about the upgraded procmail and MySQL reading the old data files?
Since you are the one managing these I would think you know where they are. As far as MySQL is concerned you need to learn how to export the database and then import it after the fresh install. The mail settings would be under /etc/mail if you are using if you are using sendmail and under /etc/postfix if using postfix.
As far as your not understanding why I need X to be up, this machine does use two or three accounts that do run various GUI apps such as KIIB for CD / DVD burning and one or two music programs to play music CDs so I do need X.
If this is a server you should not be playing music on it, use another desktop.
Also I find upgrades with visual YAST easier then command line.
This can be remotely using ssh -X <server name>. K3b can be used the same way.
On the POP issue, I have just found it way easier over the years to run KMail or evolution served to a remote X Window server then to configure POP. It is more then just not wanting to bother. This way I can have 20+ different email accounts on the server for the different hats I wear and keep the mail all in separate accounts. If I POP the mail to one logged in user on a remote machine then I have to set up multiple accounts with multiple mail folders, save folders, etc. etc on the mail reader of that remote system. I just find running separate Kmails served over X to be way easer, JMHO.
Learn how to setup aliases for the different mail accounts so that all of the mail goes to one address. PLEASE do not send email to the list and to me. I DON'T need two copies of your posting. Only send to the list where it belongs unless asked otherwise. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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