[SLE] commercial presentation of next SUSE Linux distribution
As you may know, we have little influence about the presentation of the commercial SUSE Linux. I speak about the "boxed" set, not the Novell supported professional ones. But, who knows, may be it could be usefull to express our feeling here. The actual boxed set of the 10.1 is a pity. The disks themselves are nice looking: http://fr.opensuse.org/Téléchargement/choisir_la_bonne_version#Version_.22Boite.22 this is good. But they are just fitted in a small paper cover. The box itself is cheap, very far from the usual SUSE standard (I remember of 9.0 munificent box). There are only the starting manual printed. Visibly all have been done to get a cheap product and the street price follows this. However usual deal channels don't allow really for cheap prices. This seems to me ridiculous when the download of nearly the same product is free. I wouls like to see: * A "professional" boxed set with all the disks, _two_ DVD9 and 5CD, all two manuals (1000+pages) is the local langage, and this at the price it deserve, whatever high it is. When I see the price of manuals alone on the shelves, (much) more than $100 should not be a real problem. SUSE standards again. Much less expensive than Novell servers products (with they 5+ years support), but worth 2 years support. * A minimal cd/dvd set. 5CD, 1DVD9, all of them in an A4 hard paper enveloppe (nearly no manual) - sold through e-bay and mass dealers (Amazon?), with _NO_ Novell support, for the printing cost. This should be less than $15+shipment. The latter for thouse without download capability all over the world. your feeling? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
jdd sur free wrote:
As you may know, we have little influence about the presentation of the commercial SUSE Linux.
I speak about the "boxed" set, not the Novell supported professional ones.
But, who knows, may be it could be usefull to express our feeling here.
The actual boxed set of the 10.1 is a pity. The disks themselves are nice looking:
http://fr.opensuse.org/Téléchargement/choisir_la_bonne_version#Version_.22Boite.22
this is good.
But they are just fitted in a small paper cover. The box itself is cheap, very far from the usual SUSE standard (I remember of 9.0 munificent box). There are only the starting manual printed.
Visibly all have been done to get a cheap product and the street price follows this. However usual deal channels don't allow really for cheap prices.
This seems to me ridiculous when the download of nearly the same product is free.
I wouls like to see:
* A "professional" boxed set with all the disks, _two_ DVD9 and 5CD, all two manuals (1000+pages) is the local langage, and this at the price it deserve, whatever high it is. When I see the price of manuals alone on the shelves, (much) more than $100 should not be a real problem. SUSE standards again. Much less expensive than Novell servers products (with they 5+ years support), but worth 2 years support.
* A minimal cd/dvd set. 5CD, 1DVD9, all of them in an A4 hard paper enveloppe (nearly no manual) - sold through e-bay and mass dealers (Amazon?), with _NO_ Novell support, for the printing cost. This should be less than $15+shipment.
The latter for thouse without download capability all over the world.
your feeling?
This topic was extensively discussed when 10.1 was released or about to be released. You could look in the archives to see what was said at the time and why things are as they are and ever shall be. Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:26 pm, jdd sur free wrote:
I would like to see:
* A "professional" boxed set with all the disks, _two_ DVD9 and 5CD, all two manuals (1000+pages) in the local langage, and this at the price it deserve, whatever high it is. When I see the price of manuals alone on the shelves, (much) more than $100 should not be a real problem. SUSE standards again. Much less expensive than Novell servers products (with they 5+ years support), but worth 2 years support.
* A minimal cd/dvd set. 5CD, 1DVD9, all of them in an A4 hard paper enveloppe (nearly no manual) - sold through e-bay and mass dealers (Amazon?), with _NO_ Novell support, for the printing cost. This should be less than $15+shipment.
The latter for thouse without download capability all over the world.
your feeling?
I'm very much in agreement, although I'm prepared to pay a bit more for a bit less to support SuSE. Lets call them the "Deluxe Edition" and the "Postal Edition". The difference is physical weight, not RPM content. Calling Postal "Lite" is going to generate confusion, as both would have the same (complete) package list. For the Postal Edition, just 1 double-sided dual-layer DVD in a lightweight mailer, US$25 air posted to anywhere in the world. Pay an extra US$10 for an extra architecture, eg PPC or source. The Deluxe Edition would contain: Rescue/Boot CD, DVDs with ALL architectures, ALL packages, and source. Printed User and Administrator manuals explaining philosophy, approach and best practice installs and extensions. Deluxe price? Well I was always happy to pay AUS$170 for the quality we got in the good old days. Nowadays by the time the boxed edition is available I've downloaded a more complete install server than money can buy. So why bother? michaelj -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166 No matter how much you pay for software, you always get less than you hoped. Unless you pay nothing, then you get more. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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