2008/6/19 John Andersen :

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:53 AM, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

...

Ciro Iriarte wrote:

...

Hi,

Can someone confirm this is a valid DVD iso for 11.0 GM?, I haven't seen any ISOs at download.opensuse.org yet...

http://jcriblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/opensuse-11-final-listo-para-descargar....

Regards, Ciro

I am seeding already (15 seeders, 40 leechers).

Go to: http://www.snarf-it.org/downloadTorrent/1878398-openSUSE-11.0-DVD-x86_64-iso... for the 64-Bit Version

can't find 32 Bit yet

:-) Al

Without md5sums posted at Novell, how could anyone be sure what you claim to be seeding is authentic?

-- ----------JSA--------- --

They are available now... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/dvd/ Regards, Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:51 AM, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

Ciro Iriarte wrote:

...

2008/6/19 John Andersen :

...

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:53 AM, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

...

Ciro Iriarte wrote:

...

Hi,

Can someone confirm this is a valid DVD iso for 11.0 GM?, I haven't seen any ISOs at download.opensuse.org yet...

http://jcriblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/opensuse-11-final-listo-para-descargar....

Regards, Ciro

I am seeding already (15 seeders, 40 leechers).

Go to: http://www.snarf-it.org/downloadTorrent/1878398-openSUSE-11.0-DVD-x86_64-iso... for the 64-Bit Version

can't find 32 Bit yet

:-) Al

Without md5sums posted at Novell, how could anyone be sure what you claim to be seeding is authentic?

-- ----------JSA--------- --

They are available now...

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/dvd/

Regards, Ciro

AND with wget -c <URL> you can get both ISO's in 1 hour flat each at 1.2-1.5 MB/sec (my rates at the moment). I will set 32 Bit version into torrent to seed. The 64 bit Torrent is already on 65%. For safety I also wget the 64 Bit version at OpenSUSE and will seed that one (if the MD5SUMS don't match with the earlier torrent).

:-) Al

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

THE OFFICIAL TORRENTS ARE HERE: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/torrent/ -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 11:11 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

...

THE OFFICIAL TORRENTS ARE HERE: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/torrent/

And this directory contains SHA1SUMS and MD5SUMS including .asc files detadched signatures, signed by Stephan Kulow (coolo) our project manager.

Ciao, Marcus

If you would kindly pass me thanks onto the person who had the foresight to include the other links on that page for mirrors etc, I would appreciate it. This kind of simple forethought keeps telling me, You Guys are doing it right. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 AM, John Andersen wrote:

...

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:51 AM, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

THE OFFICIAL TORRENTS ARE HERE: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/torrent/

I just started my torrent 30-60 minutes ago. Using a full-duplex (symmetric) T-1.

Actually, a T1 is not as fast as many ADSL and cable modem connections. For example, my cable modem runs 10 Mb download and 800K up. Also, when downloading, symmetrical bandwidth doesn't get you much, as there's far more data coming down, than ACKs going back. In fact, as case could be made for asymmetrical bandwidth on the server, but reversed from home users, that is upload capacity greater than download. Symmetrical bandwidth is useful when similar amounts of data are going in each direction. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Freemyer" Cc: "opensuse" Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] 11.0 torrent

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 AM, John Andersen wrote:

...

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:51 AM, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

THE OFFICIAL TORRENTS ARE HERE: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/iso/torrent/

I just started my torrent 30-60 minutes ago. Using a full-duplex (symmetric) T-1.

Not as fast as direct FTP download, but seems to be working the best of any torrent I've participated in, and 18 hours instead of 7 or 8 won't impact me one way or the other.

Avg download 66KB/sec Avg upload 88KB/sec

What I did was while everyone else was madly downloading ff3 I was rsyncing the 11.0 repos in style. Then all I needed was a tiny refresh rsync after it went official. oss, non-oss, updates, packman, all done a day ago. (well, days now) There are public rsync servers that require no special permissions. rsync/update script: --------------- SYNC="rsync -a --del --delete-excluded --exclude ppc --exclude ppc64 --exclude src --exclude SRPMS $@" # 11.0 L=/srv/www/htdocs/SUSE/11.0 $SYNC rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/mirrors/opensuse/distribution/11.0/repo/oss $L $SYNC rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/mirrors/opensuse/distribution/11.0/repo/non-oss $L $SYNC rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/opensuse-updates/11.0/* ${L}/updates $SYNC rsync://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/11.0/* ${L}/packman --------------- Ding! Instant local repo http install source for both i386 and x86_64 accessed via istall=http://myserver/SUSE/11.0/oss And once installed you can add the rest of the repos or do it right during initial install: http://myserver/SUSE/11.0/non-oss http://myserver/SUSE/11.0/updates http://myserver/SUSE/11.0/packman bing bing bing easy as you please. Since it's just http it's painless to set up and to use. Now you can install from your own source faster than dvd and WAY faster than internet and you have all the updates right in there. And you can just re-run the script any time to pull in the latest updates. If you only have one machine this is no advantage, merely more work than just installing and updating from a suse mirror directly, but if you have even one other machine, or might ever re-install, it's way nice to have a local copy to install from. And of course you end up hitting internet servers less which is better for both you and them, assuming you're not running the rsync update every night or something. Notice the $@ in the rsync options? Run the script with -v or -vv --progress to see the activity when manually running it, or just run the script with no options for cron jobs. Now what we need is a distributed and load-balanceable rsync, like torrent but rsync. ...bizarre. Wonder if that's even _theoretically_ possible... -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Fred A. Miller wrote:

Ciro Iriarte wrote:

...

Hi,

Can someone confirm this is a valid DVD iso for 11.0 GM?, I haven't seen any ISOs at download.opensuse.org yet...

http://jcriblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/opensuse-11-final-listo-para-descargar....

There are from the community site. I'm bringing in 2 iso's now....64-bit and 32-bit via ftp.

Fred

The Opensuse site now has 11.0 available. However, when I was there this morning it wasn't, so I went to one of the mirrors and downloaded it there. I suppose if you already have the images, you could get the md5sums from the "official" site to verify. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

Actually, James, with most competent torrent clients, just putting the iso that you got from FTP (or whatever) into your bittorrent directory and then click the torrent link on the opensuse page. That will cause your client to verify the sums and automatically seed the torrent.

OK, I tried this; this morning I had downloaded the x86 iso. When I read this, I started up ktorrent, followed your directions, and now I'm seeding. But I am unable to seed without also downloading another copy. I tried setting the download rate to 1KB/sec, and ktorrent obliged. Unfortunately, it also slowed the upload to 0.9 KB.sec. The iso is in the download directory with the new copy that's being downloaded. They even have the identical name, which surprises me. How can I convince ktorrent that there's already a copy in the directory? I set both rates back to 500KB/sec, and now the up speed is 122KB/sec and the down speed is 65K/sec. I don't really need a second copy, and I have the feeling that if ktorrent weren't downloading, the upload would go back to 300-500 (this morning it was usually over 600KB/sec). John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

It sounds to me like Ktorrent, which I haven't used in a while is not recognizing the previous ISO as the same Item.

Look into the download directory, and compare what name ktorrent is using to download the new file as. (You said they have the same name, but you and I both know that isn't true in the Linux world.).

In Konqueror: ---------------- john@embelex:~/tmp/Downloads> ls -l open* -rw-r--r-- 1 john users 4405843968 2008-06-18 04:41 openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 john users 4602126336 2008-06-19 13:32 openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.iso openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386-iso: total 1315220 -rw-r--r-- 1 john users 4602126336 2008-06-19 21:57 openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386.iso john@embelex:~/tmp/Downloads> -------------------------------------- The torrent subdirectory had the same name as this morning's file (why doesn't it show in the ls as a directory?). Duh. (I got careless yesterday and downloaded the 10.3 iso, thinking it was the 11.0 :-).

See if there is an extension. See if you can configure Ktorrent NOT to use an extension for partial downloads.

If you can't terminate Ktorrent. Check the directory to see what name it was storing under.

/home/john/tmp/Downloads/openSUSE-11.0-DVD-i386-iso/ Move the completed one under that name

(perhaps with a hard link so you don't lose it). Then re-start ktorrent and let it continue.

Well, I could see no difference after several minutes when I did this. However, I noticed under settings>downloads>"Number of upload slots" the setting was 2. I changed this to 10, and now, even though it's till downloading, up speed bounces around from ~1/2 (rarely) to more than 3 times (usually between 2 and 3) the down speed, both usually over 200KB/sec. Further, my ratio is now 1.25 and climbing. Not sure what exactly changed the situation, but your help certainly made me give things a second look; and if i understand the Ratio number correctly, I must have more to seed than I've gotten in the new download so far. I'm obviously not understanding ktorrent's display. thanks, jp

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John E. Perry wrote:

John E. Perry wrote:

...

... However, I noticed under settings>downloads>"Number of upload slots" the setting was 2. I changed this to 10, and now, even though it's till downloading, up speed bounces around from ~1/2 (rarely) to more than 3 times (usually between 2 and 3) the down speed, both usually over 200KB/sec. Further, my ratio is now 1.25 and climbing.

Well, this morning I got up and looked at ktorrent. Its "download" had finished (?) at 3.87GB, and it is now seeding exclusively. I have my old saved copy of 11.3, and the copy I'd put into the torrent directory is still there, and still 4.3GB.

Interestingly, the "download" speed was now ~1KB/sec, and "upload" was at ~60KB/sec. I went back to "upload slots" and changed it to 100. Immediately the upload rate went to ~250KB/sec., and I'm now providing to ~70 leechers at a time. My share ratio is now 1.75.

This torrent stuff is fun! --once it starts to make a little sense.

jp

Whar is ktorrent and seeding? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:19 AM, John E. Perry wrote:

...

Interestingly, the "download" speed was now ~1KB/sec, and "upload" was at ~60KB/sec. I went back to "upload slots" and changed it to 100. Immediately the upload rate went to ~250KB/sec., and I'm now providing to ~70 leechers at a time. My share ratio is now 1.75.

John:

IMHO... Upload slots should be somewhat more limited than 100 unless you have a really big pipe and no bandwidth cap.

apparently there's some kind of limiting, since the bandwidth I'm using is less than a third my frequent download speed.

Its better to supply a reasonable speed to a smaller number than a dribble to lots of people. I usually allow 5 to 10 upload slots, YMMV.

The recipients seem to be getting 20 -- 50KB/sec each. At this moment, I'm serving 17 at rates between 0.5 and 55KB/sec (total 115KB/sec). When I was serving less than 10 (I don't remember the number, but lets assume one), they were getting a total of ~60KB/sec. At best, that's about what they're getting now. If there had been two, that's in the middle of the range they're getting now. Any more, and it would appear that having more connections increases rates to leechers. I think the limitation is in the protocol.

You should try to control bandwidth Via the bandwidth settings, allocating what you feel comfortable with there.

Its important to watch your Upload Bandwidth. Set this too high and you will find you can't even surf the web because your outbound bandwidth will be saturated even when you are not downloading anything.

When I'm not using the computer, I don't see that as an issue. But for a while I was using the Web while I was seeding at this rate, and I saw no difference. I just surfed for a few minutes, and see no difference. Leechers are 21, KB/sec is 180. YMMV. jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

primm wrote:

...

I have my old saved copy of 11.3, and the copy I'd put into the torrent directory is still there, and still 4.3GB.

How is 11.3 compared to 11?

When I get it, I'll time-shift back and tell you.

Sorry. couldn't resist!

:-) jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org