Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
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What's SuperX ? a X server ?
In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
Pascal
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From: zentara
Jim Hodgers wrote:
I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com" to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux box but returns a message "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254" now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing 5 degrees (F) at nite around here. Jim PS Love the group!!
Maybe you need to get the Samba server going on the linux box, in order for superx to talk with it. There is also an option in the kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under filesystems.
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At 10:09 PM 4/2/98 +0200, you wrote:
P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
www.winsite.com click on search next screen type in superx for the query gets you <A HREF="http://www.winsite.com/cgi-bin/winq?query=superx"><A HREF="http://www.winsite.com/cgi-bin/winq?query=superx</A">http://www.winsite.com/cgi-bin/winq?query=superx&whole=on&platform=0 Jim PS yes it is an xserver for windoze95 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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You really got it. Go into winsite and search for it (superx.exe). It's just there. Pascal Bleser wrote:
What's SuperX ? a X server ? In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
Pascal l'irréductible Linuxien
-----Original Message----- From: zentara
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:52 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95 Jim Hodgers wrote:
I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com" to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux box but returns a message "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254" now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing 5 degrees (F) at nite around here. Jim PS Love the group!!
Maybe you need to get the Samba server going on the linux box, in order for superx to talk with it. There is also an option in the kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under filesystems.
zentara
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Pascal Bleser wrote:
What's SuperX ? a X server ? In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95 machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine in another building. I presume via ethernet. If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his win95 display, he still will need samba on his linux box to talk with it. Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server. Isn't this correct? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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Hi. I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol. Am I wrong? Santi zentara wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
What's SuperX ? a X server ? In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95 machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine in another building. I presume via ethernet.
If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his win95 display, he still will need samba on his linux box to talk with it.
Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server.
Isn't this correct?
zentara
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What's SuperX ? a X server ? In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
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Hi. I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol. Am I wrong? Santi
To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up), SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI. An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that you can telnet in. The X server, in case you were wondering, is the component of software that receives the lowest level of GUI protocol messages and decides how to raster them to the screen. On a local unix box, this is rather equivalent to a video card driver. On a windows box, it is generall software that translates the X messages into windows GDI calls (or maybe even directX these days, which is of course the totally unrelated and poorly named 'low level access' API in 95). Anyway, I don't have the answer, although I do know the DISPLAY env variable on the linux box should be something like 163.65.23.101:0 where 163.65.23.101 is your PC's IP address. The X server may have restrictions on which IPs are allowed to connect to it. You should investigate this. The X server will most likely have more than one method of connecting and authenticating. Investigate trying different options. Be sure of your password! Do you have some Super X docs? They may have some tips. If none of this gets you anywhere, try to at least narrow down where it's failing, and come back with what you do and what messages you get and where it fails (probably send the same message to super X). -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up), SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that you can telnet in.
I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display server. Ok, I have a question then, what purpose does this X-server serve? Does it just allows you to have an x-display when you telnet in from a win95 machine? I mean if it can't access files, what use is it? Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows, which I have been hearing about? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up), SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that you can telnet in.
I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display server.
Yes. It is. This is what i said. The X server displays graphics locally on the machine it is running on. An X server running on a windows box displays output from X applications (X clients) on the Windows display. The point is you can connect to your linux box, and tell the X apps to direct their output to your Win95 box, thus using guis and whatnot on another machine. The programs will run on linux, but you will be able to use them from 95. Think of it as a GUI telnet. If you have further questions about how X works, feel free to e-mail me (although I am certainly not an expert), but I think you, and I and the readers of this list would be better served by a good source of information on X. Perhaps starting with the XFree86 howto and attendant documentation.
Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows, which I have been hearing about?
I believe this is about how X servers generally run as root, and setuid programs can be tricked into misbehaving at times. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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