From alfiesty@chaffee.net Wed Apr 1 21:42:24 1998
From: alfiesty@chaffee.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 14:42:24 -0700
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At 10:09 PM 4/2/98 +0200, you wrote:
>
>P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
>find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
>
www.winsite.com click on search
next screen type in superx for the query
gets you
http://www.winsite.com/cg=
i-bin/winq?query=3Dsuperx>&whole=3Don&platform=3D0
Jim
PS yes it is an xserver for windoze95
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From pbleser@prov-liege.be Thu Apr 2 20:09:20 1998
From: pbleser@prov-liege.be
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 22:09:20 +0200
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What's SuperX ? a X server ?
In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
Pascal
l'irréductible Linuxien
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From: zentara
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:52
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
>
>Jim Hodgers wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
>> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
>> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
>> box but returns a message
>> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
>> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
>> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
>> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
>> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
>> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
>> Jim
>> PS Love the group!!
>>
>
>Maybe you need to get the Samba server going
>on the linux box, in order for superx to
>talk with it. There is also an option in the
>kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under
>filesystems.
>
>zentara
>
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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr 3 07:16:09 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 09:16:09 +0200
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You really got it. Go into winsite and search for it (superx.exe). It's just
there.
Pascal Bleser wrote:
> What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
>
> P.S.: where can I find it ? I took a look at www.winsite.com, but I didn't
> find it... am I stupid or what ? ;-)
>
> Pascal
> l'irréductible Linuxien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zentara
> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
> Date: jeudi 2 avril 1998 18:52
> Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
>
> >
> >Jim Hodgers wrote:
> >>
> >> I am trying to use superx, available on "www.winsite.com"
> >> to connect my Win95 box in the house with the linux box
> >> in the shop. When it loads it goes out and finds the Linux
> >> box but returns a message
> >> "Fatal Server error :unknown host:192.168.1.254"
> >> now this is the IP address I gave SuSe during installation
> >> and I can telnet and ping to this number. Do I need a port
> >> number? Which one? Sure like to be able to work in the
> >> house, its ~30 Meters to the shop and we are still seeing
> >> 5 degrees (F) at nite around here.
> >> Jim
> >> PS Love the group!!
> >>
> >
> >Maybe you need to get the Samba server going
> >on the linux box, in order for superx to
> >talk with it. There is also an option in the
> >kernel for smb support, in menuconfig under
> >filesystems.
> >
> >zentara
> >
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 3 15:35:54 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:35:54 -0500
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Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
> What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
>
Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95
machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine
in another building. I presume via ethernet.
If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his
win95 display, he still will need samba
on his linux box to talk with it.
Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server.
Isn't this correct?
zentara
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From srr03@tid.es Fri Apr 3 16:22:26 1998
From: srr03@tid.es
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:22:26 +0200
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Hi.
I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to
install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is
for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any
of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for
communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol.
Am I wrong?
Santi
zentara wrote:
> Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >
> > What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> > In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
> >
>
> Whoa, he originally had the problem that his win95
> machine, wouldn't connect with his linux machine
> in another building. I presume via ethernet.
>
> If SuperX is only an Xserver, for his
> win95 display, he still will need samba
> on his linux box to talk with it.
>
> Unless SuperX includes some sort of NFS server.
>
> Isn't this correct?
>
> zentara
>
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Fri Apr 3 18:09:43 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 10:09:43 -0800
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> > >
> > > What's SuperX ? a X server ?
> > > In that case, it has nothing to do with SaMBa...
> >
> > [snipped]
>
> Hi.
> I think, with all my respects, that you are wrong. There's no need to
> install samba in the linux box. An X server works under tcp/ip. Samba is
> for the windows net (nothing to do with tcp/ip; you can have both or any
> of them working good separately). Exactly, Samba is used for
> communication with the netbios protocol, the windows net protocol.
> Am I wrong?
> Santi
To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces
to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X
protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
you can telnet in.
The X server, in case you were wondering, is the component of software
that receives the lowest level of GUI protocol messages and decides how
to raster them to the screen. On a local unix box, this is rather
equivalent to a video card driver. On a windows box, it is generall
software that translates the X messages into windows GDI calls (or maybe
even directX these days, which is of course the totally unrelated and
poorly named 'low level access' API in 95).
Anyway, I don't have the answer, although I do know the DISPLAY env
variable on the linux box should be something like 163.65.23.101:0 where
163.65.23.101 is your PC's IP address. The X server may have
restrictions on which IPs are allowed to connect to it. You should
investigate this. The X server will most likely have more than one
method of connecting and authenticating. Investigate trying different
options. Be sure of your password! Do you have some Super X docs?
They may have some tips.
If none of this gets you anywhere, try to at least narrow down where
it's failing, and come back with what you do and what messages you get
and where it fails (probably send the same message to super X).
-josh
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From zentara@mindspring.com Fri Apr 3 20:09:40 1998
From: zentara@mindspring.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 15:09:40 -0500
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Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
>
> To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
> SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
> network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces
> to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
> protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
>
> An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X
> protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
> other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
> you can telnet in.
>
I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display
server.
Ok, I have a question then, what purpose does this
X-server serve?
Does it just allows you to have an x-display when you
telnet in from a win95 machine? I mean if it can't access
files, what use is it?
Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows,
which I have been hearing about?
zentara
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Fri Apr 3 22:41:04 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuperX for win95
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 14:41:04 -0800
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>
> Joshua Rodmanius wrote:
>
> > To add my useless 2 cents of kibitz (hopefully it will clear things up),
> > SAMBA allows Linux to properly deal with and manage the Windows
> > network filing system (SMB). It also provides the necessary pieces
> > to speak the windows NetBIOS layer, which can run on top of other
> > protocols, such as TCP/IP, IPX, or NetBEUI.
> >
> > An X-server is TOTALLY INDEPENDANT. In order for machines to send X
> > protocol messages back and forth, they have *no need* to access each
> > other's files. This would be analogous to installing SAMBA just so that
> > you can telnet in.
> >
>
> I see, I thought an x-server was just the local display
> server.
Yes. It is. This is what i said. The X server displays graphics locally
on the machine it is running on. An X server running on a windows box
displays output from X applications (X clients) on the Windows display.
The point is you can connect to your linux box, and tell the X apps to
direct their output to your Win95 box, thus using guis and whatnot
on another machine. The programs will run on linux, but you will be
able to use them from 95. Think of it as a GUI telnet.
If you have further questions about how X works, feel free to e-mail me
(although I am certainly not an expert), but I think you, and I and the
readers of this list would be better served by a good source of
information on X. Perhaps starting with the XFree86 howto and attendant
documentation.
> Also, is this the source of the security breach in X-windows,
> which I have been hearing about?
I believe this is about how X servers generally run as root, and setuid
programs can be tricked into misbehaving at times.
-josh
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