[opensuse] System Update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default : Bash/Konqueror lost opensuse"ness"
Jan, all: After a complete system update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default on my Toshiba P35 using "system update" in Yast, I have noticed some other strange behavior and my system has lost a lot of what makes opensuse opensuse or, in other words, its opensuseness. For starters: (1) konsole now has the regular user prompt: "20:58 Rankin-P35a:~ >" where "Rankin-P35a" is displayed in *green* and the ">" is *not* visible. The ">" is not visible because the font color for the ">" is white regardless of schema. See below (4) for further discussion; (2) konsole now has the root user prompt: "20:58 Rankin-P35a:~ #" where "Rankin-P35a" is displayed in *red*; (3) all/most of the Bash aliases are gone, (i.e. "ll" does not give a long list of the directory, etc...) example: 21:11 Rankin-P35a:~ > ll bash: ll: command not found 21:12 Rankin-P35a:~ > la bash: la: command not found; and (4) konsole: links are invisible. For example in "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2007-08-06 23:02 powersave -> sysconfig/powersave" the first "powersave" is invisible. Actually, the link name font color is set to white making it invisible on a white background. The invisibility occurs in schema "konsole default", "white on black", etc. The link name color shows as white regardless of the schema selected, "linux colors", etc. How do I get konsole and the Bash aliases returned to normal without having to manually rebuild the aliases and find out where all the konsole default color definitions are found?? I have another 10.2 machine here I could copy the files from, but I do not know offhand which files I need. .bashrc comes to mind, but I would certainly welcome a link to a quick list of files that I could start off replacing to attempt to cure these problems. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
On Aug 21 2007 21:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
After a complete system update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default on my Toshiba P35 using "system update" in Yast, I have noticed some other strange behavior and my system has lost a lot of what makes opensuse opensuse or, in other words, its opensuseness. For starters:
If you don't like it, don't use it, simple. The changes I made to the packages comfort me and help me doing my things faster/better.
(1) konsole now has the regular user prompt: "20:58 Rankin-P35a:~ >" where "Rankin-P35a" is displayed in *green* and the ">" is *not* visible. The ">" is not visible because the font color for the ">" is white regardless of schema. See below (4) for further discussion;
(4) konsole: links are invisible. For example in "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2007-08-06 23:02 powersave -> sysconfig/powersave" the first "powersave" is invisible. Actually, the link name font color is set to white making it invisible on a white background. The invisibility occurs in schema "konsole default", "white on black", etc. The link name color shows as white regardless of the schema selected, "linux colors", etc.
Do not use white xterms then ;-) (If you like some reasons: (1) strains the eyes much more (esp. at night time), (2) draws more power [there has even been a slashdot article and a Black Google for that]) If you do not like the colors, set COLORS=no in /etc/hxtools.conf, or override them with your personal defaults in ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.dir_colors.
(2) konsole now has the root user prompt: "20:58 Rankin-P35a:~ #" where "Rankin-P35a" is displayed in *red*;
You'd be surprised, I have seen at least one user who, despite giving the red its "warning" mode, still uses rm -f * quite carelessy (or maybe I've just replayed the console video too fast). Anyway, SUSE 10.3 also moved to a red prompt, so the idea must naturally be good. (There's even a bugzilla entry for it.) Don't like it? COLORS=no will change it.
(3) all/most of the Bash aliases are gone, (i.e. "ll" does not give a long list of the directory, etc...) example:
21:11 Rankin-P35a:~ > ll bash: ll: command not found 21:12 Rankin-P35a:~ > la bash: la: command not found; and
SUSE has so many duplicate aliases, and I have decided to collapse them all into the (already existing) `l`.
How do I get konsole and the Bash aliases returned to normal without having to manually rebuild the aliases and find out where all the konsole default color definitions are found??
These schemes only redefine the "default" background and foreground colors. (The 'default' is different from the usual black,red,green,brown,blue, magenta,cyan,gray colors; but is mapped to gray on the VGA console; xterms can do whatever they like). So if you choose an improper color scheme in the default SUSE, for example "white on green" (or whatever awkward preference one may have), you will not see executable files in ls, since they are mapped to green. Perhaps I should add more tuning knobs in hxtools.conf...
I have another 10.2 machine here I could copy the files from, but I do not know offhand which files I need. .bashrc comes to mind, but I would certainly welcome a link to a quick list of files that I could start off replacing to attempt to cure these problems.
/etc/bash.bashrc has been patched to contain a ". /etc/hxtools_profile.sh" line. /etc/DIR_COLORS has received the style of SUSE 6.x/7.x. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Aug 21 2007 21:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
After a complete system update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default on my Toshiba P35 using "system update" in Yast, I have noticed some other strange behavior and my system has lost a lot of what makes opensuse opensuse or, in other words, its opensuseness. For starters:
If you don't like it, don't use it, simple. The changes I made to the packages comfort me and help me doing my things faster/better.
<snip>
Jan
Hi Jan, I also use the ccj kernel, more specifically 2.6.22.3-ccj53-default, and I see none of the changes described in David's post. Perhaps because I have already modified ~/.bashrc (also for root) ? Also, /etc/hxtools* does not exist on my system, and /etc/bash.bashrc(.local) does not have a line containing what you described. I really would like to keep my own customization (which is what happened when upgrading), but I'm just wondering why your modifications did not step into effect, as it did in David's case ? Best regards Sylvester Lykkehus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
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Best regards Sylvester Lykkehus
I just remembered i did not add your repo, i _only_ install the kernel and perl-bootloader rpms grabbed from the repo, so other packages would not have been updated. Best regards Sylvester Lykkehus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Aug 22 2007 09:08, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
I also use the ccj kernel, more specifically 2.6.22.3-ccj53-default, and I see none of the changes described in David's post.
Perhaps because I have already modified ~/.bashrc (also for root) ?
Also, /etc/hxtools* does not exist on my system, and /etc/bash.bashrc(.local) does not have a line containing what you described.
Package in question is aaa_base.
I really would like to keep my own customization (which is what happened when upgrading), but I'm just wondering why your modifications did not step into effect, as it did in David's case ?
aaa_base.ccj modifies the 'system' defaults, so all your ~ files should remain in effect. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----Original Message----- From: Jan Engelhardt Subject: Re: [opensuse] System Update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default : Bash/Konqueror lost opensuse"ness" On Aug 21 2007 21:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
After a complete system update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default on my Toshiba P35 using "system update" in Yast, I have noticed some other strange behavior and my system has lost a lot of what makes opensuse opensuse or, in other words, its opensuseness. For starters:
If you don't like it, don't use it, simple. The changes I made to the packages comfort me and help me doing my things faster/better. <snip> Do not use white xterms then ;-) (If you like some reasons: (1) strains the eyes much more (esp. at night time), (2) draws more power [there has even been a slashdot article and a Black Google for that]) If you do not like the colors, set COLORS=no in /etc/hxtools.conf, or override them with your personal defaults in ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.dir_colors. <snip> Anyway, SUSE 10.3 also moved to a red prompt, so the idea must naturally be good. (There's even a bugzilla entry for it.) Don't like it? COLORS=no will change it.
(3) all/most of the Bash aliases are gone, (i.e. "ll" does not give a long list of the directory, etc...) example:
21:11 Rankin-P35a:~ > ll bash: ll: command not found 21:12 Rankin-P35a:~ > la bash: la: command not found; and
SUSE has so many duplicate aliases, and I have decided to collapse them all into the (already existing) `l`. <snip> Perhaps I should add more tuning knobs in hxtools.conf...
I have another 10.2 machine here I could copy the files from, but I do not know offhand which files I need. .bashrc comes to mind, but I would certainly welcome a link to a quick list of files that I could start off replacing to attempt to cure these problems.
/etc/bash.bashrc has been patched to contain a ". /etc/hxtools_profile.sh" line. /etc/DIR_COLORS has received the style of SUSE 6.x/7.x. Jan ---------------- Jan, Thank you for your reply. That was *exactly* the information I needed. In my post, I was not complaining about the changes, I didn't know if they were bugs or not, so I just posted them asking for help understanding what changes where made and where the config files are so I can make some changes to set them to my preferences. I think your work is *fantastic* and a great service to the community. Like I said originally, I was using "system update" for the first time and I was simply surprised at the differences I found in the basic preferences and alias settings. Again, thank you for your response, you hit the nail on the head for the information I was sinking. Also, thanks again for the mad-wifi drivers yesterday, they are working great! David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Aug 22 2007 09:26, David Rankin wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Aug 21 2007 21:20, David C. Rankin wrote:
After a complete system update to 2.6.22.2-ccj52-default on my Toshiba P35 using "system update" in Yast, I have noticed some other strange behavior and my system has lost a lot of what makes opensuse opensuse or, in other words, its opensuseness. For starters:
If you don't like it, don't use it, simple. The changes I made to the packages comfort me and help me doing my things faster/better. [...]
Thank you for your reply. That was *exactly* the information I needed. In my post, I was not complaining about the changes, I didn't know if they were bugs or not, so I just posted them asking for help [...]
Sorry if it sounded offensive. There's just an every-growing bunch of noobs popping up that just blindly install everything they see, or happen to slurp in due to inter-package dependencies. (I suspect two causes: (1) world population growth naturally produces a certain percentage of St. iGNUcious users, (2) Windows users trickling over ;-)
understanding what changes where made and where the config files are so I can make some changes to set them to my preferences. I think your work is *fantastic* and a great service to the community. Like I said originally, I was using "system update" for the first time and I was simply surprised at the differences I found in the basic preferences and alias settings.
Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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