Hi: I am wondering why my hard drive is numbered hde in 8.1 instead of hda like it used to be in 7.3 and prior? Also, I took out my CD-RW drive to get it repaired, and put a normal CDROM in its place. Then I went into the grub configuration in Yast and made an alternate boot menu item to not pass the ide-scsi parameter to the kernel. Now I booted the system without that. Nonetheless, I have the ide-scsi module loaded, and the CDROM shows up at /dev/sr0, not /dev/hd? like I expected it, though I don't know quite where to expect it anyway due to the strange IDE partition numbering that is going on. Comments appreciated. Thanks. -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@earthlink.net Suse 8.1 Linux 2.4.19
The 02.11.19 at 19:45, Chris Carlen wrote:
Nonetheless, I have the ide-scsi module loaded, and the CDROM shows up at /dev/sr0, not /dev/hd? like I expected it, though I don't know quite where to expect it anyway due to the strange IDE partition numbering that is going on.
Comments appreciated.
Try "scan_scsi.linux".
Thanks.
Welcome! -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 02.11.19 at 19:45, Chris Carlen wrote:
Nonetheless, I have the ide-scsi module loaded, and the CDROM shows up at /dev/sr0, not /dev/hd? like I expected it, though I don't know quite where to expect it anyway due to the strange IDE partition numbering that is going on.
Comments appreciated.
Try "scan_scsi.linux".
That shows: ting:/home/user1 # scan_scsi.linux Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 CD-ROM -> /dev/sg0 But what is this command? There doesn't seem to be a man page. And isn't the drive registering as a SCSI device just because the ide-scsi emulation is installed? I mean, if the drive were really needing ide-scsi, and I had forced the system to not load ide-scsi, then the drive simply wouldn't work, right? But I still don't know how to get ide-scsi to not load. Thanks for the reply. -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@earthlink.net Suse 8.1 Linux 2.4.19
The 02.11.19 at 20:27, Chris Carlen wrote:
Try "scan_scsi.linux".
That shows:
ting:/home/user1 # scan_scsi.linux Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 CD-ROM -> /dev/sg0
But what is this command? There doesn't seem to be a man page.
An script: nimrodel:/etc # which scan_scsi.linux /usr/bin/scan_scsi.linux nimrodel:/etc # file /usr/bin/scan_scsi.linux /usr/bin/scan_scsi.linux: Bourne-Again shell script text
And isn't the drive registering as a SCSI device just because the ide-scsi emulation is installed?
I mean, if the drive were really needing ide-scsi, and I had forced the system to not load ide-scsi, then the drive simply wouldn't work, right?
Right :-)
But I still don't know how to get ide-scsi to not load.
Check the links in /dev/cdr* -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
But I still don't know how to get ide-scsi to not load.
Check the links in /dev/cdr*
I don't understand why this is relevant. I want to stop the system from loading ide-scsi, that's all. BTW, who controls those links? The hwscan script? I really am beginning to dislike all this automatic artificial intelligence configuration stuff. I think I'd prefer if it was a bit more interactive and educational at the same time. Kind of like: The system has detected a new CDROM drive. We usually call that "/dev/cdrom." Would you like to use this or another device file? Ok, thanks for the input. -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@earthlink.net Suse 8.1 Linux 2.4.19
The 02.11.20 at 21:50, Chris Carlen wrote:
Check the links in /dev/cdr*
I don't understand why this is relevant. I want to stop the system from loading ide-scsi, that's all.
It is, it is... The default fstab, and the recomended fstab, uses /dev/cdrom, be it scsi or whatever. Any other program doing direct mount of the cdrom, uses /dev/cdrom. If you decide to use it as scsi or as ide, you only have got change one link in the system.
BTW, who controls those links? The hwscan script?
It is a binary.
I really am beginning to dislike all this automatic artificial intelligence configuration stuff.
You can completely dissable it (in yast, for example), and call it manually whenever you do a hardware change.
I think I'd prefer if it was a bit more interactive and educational at the same time. Kind of like:
The system has detected a new CDROM drive. We usually call that "/dev/cdrom." Would you like to use this or another device file?
Well... Maybe... :-? I think that what we need is an entry in the yast/hardware like cdrom/dvd configuration. There are su many problems arising from it that a helper function there would be appreciated.
Ok, thanks for the input.
Welcome :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On 11/20/2002 12:27 PM, Chris Carlen wrote:
But I still don't know how to get ide-scsi to not load.
Since you have removed it from initrd modules, and grubs menu, but don't yet know what it will be, try adding cdrom ide-cd modules to initrd, which should make it work as an ide cd. then run hwscan --cdrom, hwscan --list to se what /dev/hdx it is, and add the line hdx=ide-cd to grubs menu. I believe you could then remove the cdrom and ide-cd modules from your initrd. HTH -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
CC> I am wondering why my hard drive is numbered hde in 8.1 instead of hda CC> like it used to be in 7.3 and prior? The Administration Guide --- take a look at page 31 and page 21 to see if any of that helps/applies. Good Luck. -- __________________________ DJ mailto: linux_programmer@hotmail.com
Do you have an additional IDE controller card in your box? Maybe the order of the controllers in the bios has changed? Just my $0.02 I have a Promise ATA card in a box, since it's a secondary controller card, the drives start from /dev/hde hda, hdb, hdc and hdd are all on the two onboard controller ports primary and secondary... DJ wrote:
CC> I am wondering why my hard drive is numbered hde in 8.1 instead of hda CC> like it used to be in 7.3 and prior?
The Administration Guide --- take a look at page 31 and page 21 to see if any of that helps/applies.
Good Luck.
-- Ahbaid Gaffoor
Ahbaid Gaffoor wrote:
Do you have an additional IDE controller card in your box?
Maybe the order of the controllers in the bios has changed?
Just my $0.02
I have a Promise ATA card in a box, since it's a secondary controller card, the drives start from /dev/hde
hda, hdb, hdc and hdd are all on the two onboard controller ports primary and secondary...
Nope, just the onboard controllers, and I think I'm using the first one. It was /dev/hda in Suse 7.3
The Administration Guide --- take a look at page 31 and page 21 to see if any of that helps/applies.
I have to read that and look at this more tomorrow. Bed time. Good day! -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@earthlink.net Suse 8.1 Linux 2.4.19
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Ahbaid Gaffoor
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