Le 18/02/2017 à 10:23, ellanios82 a écrit :

- the reason i am suspicious causing me to use word 'spam' is that the Yahoo mail account is dormant and not used : thus am wondering "How" can

I received recently two spams on the Membership mailing list, not enough to be really bored (I get around 1000 a day, sorted out by Thunderbird, on other lists), but that probably mean than some people asking to be member was hacked jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/18/17 11:35, ellanios82 wrote:

- still wondering how someone got the address as account not used : then just recalled that Yahoo suffered a big Hack abt a year ago? : perhaps the hackers are only now getting round to selling off millions of e-mail addresses ......

or , could this be a new manifestation of A.I. : tracking by Yahoo of all pages visited by IP address ? or, Google-Chrome browser doing the AI stuff via Script ? ......... regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/18/17 12:33, Richmond wrote:

ellanios82 wrote:

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- still wondering how someone got the address as account not used : then just recalled that Yahoo suffered a big Hack abt a year ago? : perhaps the hackers are only now getting round to selling off millions of e-mail addresses I started receiving spam from Apple. (Does apple go with spam? maybe.) It was because someone tried to use my email address as their apple-id. They did not succeed because I did not reply to the verification. But Apple continued to send me email afterwards about their products. So I don't know whether you would call that accidental spam.

- interesting - thanks. another thought : although i do not use my yahoo mail, i do use MyYahoo to display news items , and have several links to Linux news : could it be that MyYahoo tracks news items Read, and then provides users mail addresses to commercial vendors ? { soon AI masters all } ........ regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

ellanios82 wrote:

> On 02/18/17 11:23, ellanios82 wrote:
>> On 02/18/17 11:04, Per Jessen wrote:
>>> ellanios82 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello List,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - i received a spam mail :
>>>>
>>>> "SUSE can Help your Business" : Spam e-mail received on MyYahoo
>>>> mail account.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Spam is always in the eye of the beholder - on 15/2 I also received
>>> a mail
>>> "See how SUSE can help your business succeed".  I think I get these
>>> every
>>> now and then, not sure what it was I signed up for and where, but I
>>> wouldn't
>>> call it spam.
>>>
>>
>> - the reason i am suspicious causing me to use word 'spam' is that
>> the Yahoo mail account is dormant and not used : thus am wondering
>> "How" can someone have got hold of the email address : never before
>> have i had any SUSE referenced message
>>
>>
>>  - i remain : mystified
>>
>> .......
>   - still wondering how someone got the address as account not used :
> then just recalled that Yahoo suffered a big Hack
>   abt a year ago? : perhaps the hackers are only now getting round to
> selling off millions of e-mail addresses

I find it highly unlikely for SUSE or Microfocus to buy addresses of
end-users to advertise an enterprise product .... 

How they got your address - if you've never, ever used it and nothing is
ever forwarded to it, that is difficult to explain. 



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Bryon Adams wrote:

> On February 18, 2017 8:37:39 AM EST, Per Jessen 
> wrote:
>>ellanios82 wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/18/17 11:23, ellanios82 wrote:
>>>> On 02/18/17 11:04, Per Jessen wrote:
>>>>> ellanios82 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - i received a spam mail :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "SUSE can Help your Business" : Spam e-mail received on MyYahoo
>>>>>> mail account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Spam is always in the eye of the beholder - on 15/2 I also
>>>>> received a mail
>>>>> "See how SUSE can help your business succeed".  I think I get
>>>>> these every
>>>>> now and then, not sure what it was I signed up for and where, but
>>>>> I wouldn't
>>>>> call it spam.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - the reason i am suspicious causing me to use word 'spam' is that
>>>> the Yahoo mail account is dormant and not used : thus am wondering
>>>> "How" can someone have got hold of the email address : never before
>>>> have i had any SUSE referenced message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  - i remain : mystified
>>>>
>>>> .......
>>>   - still wondering how someone got the address as account not used
>>>   :
>>> then just recalled that Yahoo suffered a big Hack
>>>   abt a year ago? : perhaps the hackers are only now getting round
>>>   to selling off millions of e-mail addresses
>>
>>I find it highly unlikely for SUSE or Microfocus to buy addresses of
>>end-users to advertise an enterprise product ....
>>
>>How they got your address - if you've never, ever used it and nothing
>>is ever forwarded to it, that is difficult to explain.
> 
> Perhaps yahoo sold it? I never use my AOL but that doesn't stop it
> from getting spam.

Sure, but why should SUSE buy an end-user address for advertise an
enterprise product to .... doesn't make much sense.  


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How they got your address - if you've never, ever used it and nothing is ever forwarded to it, that is difficult to explain.

Someone else used that address on a form or as return address... Also, I would read that email, see if it is genuine. Who really sent it. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlioWDEACgkQja8UbcUWM1w/MQD+MIkbfZc1RHsF8hr3utypRnBg n33AyHgTkATO4IRY8vwA/R1tzozvlIUVLNbjKErRO4niZrR0ajR+9pU2vmD8VrEJ =WtI7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 2017-02-18 15:51, ellanios82 wrote:

On 02/18/17 16:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Also, I would read that email, see if it is genuine. Who really sent it.

- too late : i deleted it unread

No wastebasket? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-02-18 a las 16:12 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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El 2017-02-18 a las 14:37 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:

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How they got your address - if you've never, ever used it and nothing is ever forwarded to it, that is difficult to explain.

Someone else used that address on a form or as return address...

And where did this person get it from? It could be entirely random, but how likely is that.

Little. That side it could also be harvested. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAliojswACgkQja8UbcUWM1wjSgD/baNjtANAvdaMob91imWlX/b9 wSwxeMqHV8L+INErcngA/3aabr+4Cds/sulmgubo+TRSrJYwxDnXOYY876bhYWO5 =qIQE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 2017-02-18 20:04, Per Jessen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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El 2017-02-18 a las 16:12 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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El 2017-02-18 a las 14:37 +0100, Per Jessen escribió:

...

How they got your address - if you've never, ever used it and nothing is ever forwarded to it, that is difficult to explain.

Someone else used that address on a form or as return address...

And where did this person get it from? It could be entirely random, but how likely is that.

Little.

That side it could also be harvested.

Yes, harvesting is quite likely, but the question remains, why should SUSE buy such addresses.

Not SUSE. The person that filled a form at SUSE using Ellanios's email. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))

ellanios82 wrote:

On 02/18/17 11:04, Per Jessen wrote:

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ellanios82 wrote:

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Hello List,

- i received a spam mail :

"SUSE can Help your Business" : Spam e-mail received on MyYahoo mail account.

Spam is always in the eye of the beholder - on 15/2 I also received a mail "See how SUSE can help your business succeed". I think I get these every now and then, not sure what it was I signed up for and where, but I wouldn't call it spam.

- the reason i am suspicious causing me to use word 'spam' is that the Yahoo mail account is dormant and not used :

Perhaps you used it at some point and forgot about it?

{ btw seems that in Athens suburb of 'Nea Smyrne' there is a Club for Pontic Greeks}

Nea Smyrna, yes, that seems reasonable :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/18/17 23:59, Linda Walsh wrote:

ellanios82 wrote:

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- the reason i am suspicious causing me to use word 'spam' is that the Yahoo mail account is dormant and not used : thus am wondering "How" can someone have got hold of the email address : never before have i had any SUSE referenced message - i remain : mystified Maybe related to those accounts being compromised:

"Yahoo/!/ is reminding folks that hackers broke into its systems, and learned how to forge its website's session cookies. That allowed the miscreants to log into user accounts without ever typing a password."

(from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/16/yahoo_forged_cookie_hack_risk/)

- Thank you Linda : most logical ......... regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2017-02-18 a las 10:26 +0100, stakanov escribió:

In data sabato 18 febbraio 2017 10:04:05, Per Jessen ha scritto:

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ellanios82 wrote:

...

Hello List,

- i received a spam mail :

"SUSE can Help your Business" : Spam e-mail received on MyYahoo mail account.

Spam is always in the eye of the beholder - on 15/2 I also received a mail "See how SUSE can help your business succeed". I think I get these every now and then, not sure what it was I signed up for and where, but I wouldn't call it spam.

Rule is simple:

Unwanted email, whether containing correct or incorrect information is spam. Unwanted means that you bomb people with that crap if the did not opt-in to a distribution. YMMV but the legal situation in many European countries I know is this. Therefore there is a lack of law-enforcement. Not so much a doubt about the nature of spam.

No, it is not so simple. A person (or a business) may attempt to contact some other person, without knowing in advance if the other side will accept the contact. The mail could be anything, a question, an offer... I only consider it spam when there is something else. It can be abusive, sent often, insistently. It may use faked addresses or other "lies". I do not consider spam a company that sends a mail with news every three months, say. If I don't want it, I prefer receiving onwanted email rather than unwanted paper mail: it can be filtered out. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlioKj8ACgkQja8UbcUWM1ynrAD/dfORqoKt3HuCgXUYvXL7pnjn FwaNULh1x0Q6Kjs+klsA/js1k7EbGnb79nZX8JiBINPHsie32X4FqZ+93xWcssXR =Wqv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----