Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) they are economics pcs. How could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation? Thanks for any help. a. PS--I know there are SuSE 10 and Slackware 10.2 :)
On 10/27/05 3:42 PM, "Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva" <adagilson@cpqam.fiocruz.br> wrote:
Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit
I'm building a new box also... Can I ask why you chose those items? (I hear the gigabyte motherboards are good, and the 64-bit 2800+ is a decent chip, but I don't have anything to compare it to personally) I'm looking for something with onboard 10/100/1000 nic, at least 4 PCI slots, and at least 3 gig ram max. I'm not sure how much the 64 bit would help a file server... By their site, they only have two Linux boards.
From the gigabyte site: http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/FileList/NewTech/tech_20050812_linux.ht m
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On 10/27/05 3:42 PM, "Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva" <adagilson@cpqam.fiocruz.br> wrote:
Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit
I'm building a new box also... Can I ask why you chose those items?
(I hear the gigabyte motherboards are good, and the 64-bit 2800+ is a decent chip, but I don't have anything to compare it to personally)
Personally, I prefer MSI, Gigabyte or Abit instead Asus, pc chips, ECS, etc. As I found a Gigabyte model (K8VM800M) with video and sound chipset on-board (it also has an AGP slot, of course) at my city with a good price, I didn't exitate and bought it: i) it is cheaper than celeron ii) the chipset inside is from VIA (I think it's better than SiS and not so expensive as nVidia) iii) it has compatibility with my elected processor, AMD Sempron 2800+, 1.6GHz, with 256Kb Cache L2, stepping E6 (OPN BX, this means you are sure that you have 64-bit activated resources), etc. http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDA2800AIO3BX http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/CPUSupportList/CPUSupportList_G... ...you can compare it with another Sempron processors: http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/ ...or you can see benchmarks http://www.amd.com/br-pt/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11599_11605... iv) it is on the list "recommended motherboards" to sempron from AMD's website: http://www2.amd.com/br-pt/Processors/TechnicalResources/1,,30_182_869_11521%... http://www2.amd.com/br-pt/recmobo/ResultsHandler/1,,30_182_869_11521%5E11522... v) you can compare it with another motherboards to socket 754 at: http://www.dealtime.com http://www.tigerdirect.com ...or even with via chipset-based motheboards. There you can choice your motherboard -- they will tell you how much slots the mobos have. Slackware 10.1 supports it: it is just working fine, video, sound, everything. SuSE is nomore running well. I will follow the advises of Felix Miata and Hans du Plooy. Adagilson
I'm looking for something with onboard 10/100/1000 nic, at least 4 PCI slots, and at least 3 gig ram max. I'm not sure how much the 64 bit would help a file server...
By their site, they only have two Linux boards.
From the gigabyte site: http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/FileList/NewTech/tech_20050812_linux.ht m
Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) they are economics pcs. How could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation?
AFAIK, if your new machine is only using PATA for your HD(s) using the same device position(s) on the controller(s), you should be able to simply boot into runlevel 3 on SuSE, run sax2 to configure for your new video, then init 5 & run like nothing was ever messed with. I've never used slack, but it must have some similar utility for video reconfiguration, or you could manually change its xorg.conf file with your new video as sax2 did for your SuSE. -- "Be quick to listen, slow to speak." James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
On 28/10/05, Felix Miata <mrmazda@ij.net> wrote:
Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) they are economics pcs. How could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation?
I'm puzzled why you say 'no comments'? There is nothing wrong with those PC's. One of mine is also a K6 II 500mhz. That's the beauty of Linux, it will run on older PC's that would otherwise be thrown out. Don't be embarrased or ashamed, you are saving the world's resources by utilising old computers. Be proud of that fact. :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Thank you very much for your answer, Kevan! I enjoy it and I am more prouded of my machines now :) Adagilson PS--it's not so unusual that people criticise our options instead just answering the questions posted. BTW I loved my K6-II and it's still alive on the hands of my sisters-in-law -- you see, there's life after the death: donate organs ;) Kevanf1 escreveu:
On 28/10/05, Felix Miata <mrmazda@ij.net> wrote:
Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) they are economics pcs. How could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation?
I'm puzzled why you say 'no comments'? There is nothing wrong with those PC's. One of mine is also a K6 II 500mhz. That's the beauty of Linux, it will run on older PC's that would otherwise be thrown out. Don't be embarrased or ashamed, you are saving the world's resources by utilising old computers. Be proud of that fact.
:-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer
34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
As I said, everything is working fine on Skackware 10.1. It can find all partittion on my primary master, as before. I know there are new motherboard and processor, but if my HD is in the same place, Slackware can boot and mout all partition of it as before, why could not SuSE 9.3? I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" $ I can't run yast or sax2. Why? How can I do it? a. Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u --reboot-- ...but an "panic" error occurs! Felix Miata escreveu:
Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) they are economics pcs. How could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation?
AFAIK, if your new machine is only using PATA for your HD(s) using the same device position(s) on the controller(s), you should be able to simply boot into runlevel 3 on SuSE, run sax2 to configure for your new video, then init 5 & run like nothing was ever messed with. I've never used slack, but it must have some similar utility for video reconfiguration, or you could manually change its xorg.conf file with your new video as sax2 did for your SuSE.
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" The difference is that Slackware probably builds all their IDE drivers into
On Thursday 10 November 2005 13:42, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote: the kernel, or include all of them in the initrd (dunno which, I haven't worked with Slack in ages), while SUSE only puts what's needed in there. So you previous board probably had a ALi chipset (popular on boards K6 boards of that era), while the new one is a VIA. when you boot of the rescue CD, d an lsmod and make note of which VIA module is loaded.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
You're leaving out a crucial step. Edit /etc/sysconfig/kernel, and add the required module to the list. Then make the new initrd. Hans
I edited /etc/sysconfig/kernel and added: INITRD_MODULES="via89cxxx" After running again $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $chroot /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u ...the system told me: Root device: /dev/root (mounted on / ext2) Module list: via82cxxx You may now have to update your boot loader configuration Then, I rebooted my box. ...and a new sequence of error messages continues: [...] Loading kernel/fs/jbd/jbd.ko Loading kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko /linuxrc: 264: syntax error: Bad substitution VFS: Cannot open root device "hda6" or unknown-block(0,0) Please apend a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Could you help me again? I just don't know what is missing. I thought just making it a new initrd with a redefined root, it would work. adagilson PS--my current boot loader, Grub, has this line to label SuSE 9.3: kernel (hd0,5) /boot/vmlinuz too=/dev/hda6 vga=0x31a selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda7 showapts initrd (hd0,5) /boot/initrd Hans du Plooy escreveu:
On Thursday 10 November 2005 13:42, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
The difference is that Slackware probably builds all their IDE drivers into the kernel, or include all of them in the initrd (dunno which, I haven't worked with Slack in ages), while SUSE only puts what's needed in there.
So you previous board probably had a ALi chipset (popular on boards K6 boards of that era), while the new one is a VIA. when you boot of the rescue CD, d an lsmod and make note of which VIA module is loaded.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
You're leaving out a crucial step. Edit /etc/sysconfig/kernel, and add the required module to the list. Then make the new initrd.
Hans
I tryed again the command lines above and it is just working now. Ah! I used just: $mkinitrd -R (without "-u") Thanks for your help! Adagilson Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva escreveu:
I edited /etc/sysconfig/kernel and added: INITRD_MODULES="via89cxxx"
After running again $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $chroot /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u ...the system told me:
Root device: /dev/root (mounted on / ext2) Module list: via82cxxx You may now have to update your boot loader configuration
Then, I rebooted my box.
...and a new sequence of error messages continues: [...] Loading kernel/fs/jbd/jbd.ko Loading kernel/fs/ext3/ext3.ko /linuxrc: 264: syntax error: Bad substitution VFS: Cannot open root device "hda6" or unknown-block(0,0) Please apend a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
Could you help me again? I just don't know what is missing. I thought just making it a new initrd with a redefined root, it would work. adagilson
PS--my current boot loader, Grub, has this line to label SuSE 9.3: kernel (hd0,5) /boot/vmlinuz too=/dev/hda6 vga=0x31a selinux=0 splash=silent resume=/dev/hda7 showapts initrd (hd0,5) /boot/initrd
Hans du Plooy escreveu:
On Thursday 10 November 2005 13:42, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
The difference is that Slackware probably builds all their IDE drivers into the kernel, or include all of them in the initrd (dunno which, I haven't worked with Slack in ages), while SUSE only puts what's needed in there.
So you previous board probably had a ALi chipset (popular on boards K6 boards of that era), while the new one is a VIA. when you boot of the rescue CD, d an lsmod and make note of which VIA module is loaded.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow $mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
You're leaving out a crucial step. Edit /etc/sysconfig/kernel, and add the required module to the list. Then make the new initrd.
Hans
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:42 -0200, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
As I said, everything is working fine on Skackware 10.1. It can find all partittion on my primary master, as before. I know there are new motherboard and processor, but if my HD is in the same place, Slackware can boot and mout all partition of it as before, why could not SuSE 9.3?
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" $
I can't run yast or sax2. Why? How can I do it? a.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow
chroot /mnt/gonow
$mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
...but an "panic" error occurs!
Felix Miata escreveu:
You may also have to mount your /boot if on a different partition. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
(sorry, I forgot to say) $chroot /mnt/gonow ...(this command) was done too. Ken Schneider escreveu:
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:42 -0200, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
As I said, everything is working fine on Skackware 10.1. It can find all partittion on my primary master, as before. I know there are new motherboard and processor, but if my HD is in the same place, Slackware can boot and mout all partition of it as before, why could not SuSE 9.3?
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" $
I can't run yast or sax2. Why? How can I do it? a.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow
chroot /mnt/gonow
$mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
...but an "panic" error occurs!
Felix Miata escreveu:
You may also have to mount your /boot if on a different partition.
It's on the same partition. a.
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 11:51 -0200, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
(sorry, I forgot to say) $chroot /mnt/gonow
...(this command) was done too.
Ken Schneider escreveu:
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:42 -0200, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
As I said, everything is working fine on Skackware 10.1. It can find all partittion on my primary master, as before. I know there are new motherboard and processor, but if my HD is in the same place, Slackware can boot and mout all partition of it as before, why could not SuSE 9.3?
I follow your tips, typing 3 to the boot options, but an error occurred: "Waiting for device /dev/hda6 to appear .....not found -- exiting to /bin/sh sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" $
I can't run yast or sax2. Why? How can I do it? a.
Ps--I tried Rescue mode: $mkdir /mnt/gonow $mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gonow
chroot /mnt/gonow
$mkinitrd -R -u --reboot--
...but an "panic" error occurs!
Felix Miata escreveu:
You may also have to mount your /boot if on a different partition.
It's on the same partition. a.
Did you make sure that the module was in /etc/sysconfig/kernel (INITRD_MODULES= section) before running mkinitrd? -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
On Thursday 27 October 2005 21:42, Adagilson Batista Bispo da Silva wrote:
Yesterday, my machine was a rude pc chips m598lmr, I won't say anything :-)
with a k6-ii/500mhz (no comments please). Decent chip, if you put it on a decent board. To the best of my knowledge there were only ever two really good boards for this chip - a Gigabyte and an ASUS, both based on an ALi chipset.
Today I build a new one with a gigabyte k8vm800, to a sempron 2800+ 64-bit (no comments please) Why not? That is an excellent combo. I got that combo (2600+ though) for my dad, and it impressed me so much I got the exact same combo for our new mailserver. I installed SUSE 9.3 Pro on it just to see what it's like (with 512mb mem) and it really moved.
they are economics pcs. H True. I cannot see how anyone can justify buying a Celeron if you can get this for the same money.
ow could I reconfigurate my distros (SuSE 9.3 and Slackware 10.1) without a reinstalation?
I assume you're keeping your hard drive as it is. Just put it on the same port (Primary master, say, or where ever you had it), add a 3 to the boot options line to boot into runlevel 3, and run yast to configure your network controller, sound, and what ever else you replaced. SUSE is really robust like that. Hans
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