On 10/18/2012 03:49 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012-10-18 02:32 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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I have downloaded 12.2 twice, burned them to a DVD and twice it will not boot.

Exactly what happens when you try?

Basically nothing - the DVD starts (spin up) - the screen is blank with just the cursor at the top left corner.

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The previous DVD of 12.1 boot fine.

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Corrupt ISO file on website ?

Did you do md5sum on it before burning?

No, because I rarely have any internet download problems.

How exactly did you download?

Direct Link - 32bit PC - Download DVD Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/18/2012 04:21 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012-10-18 04:05 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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On 2012-10-18 02:32 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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I have downloaded 12.2 twice, burned them to a DVD and twice it will not boot.

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Exactly what happens when you try?

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Basically nothing - the DVD starts (spin up) - the screen is blank with just the cursor at the top left corner.

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The previous DVD of 12.1 boot fine.

Now, or a long time ago? Does anything boot in that drive now?

Yes - just yesterday

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Corrupt ISO file on website ?

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Did you do md5sum on it before burning?

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No, because I rarely have any internet download problems.

You should verify it via md5 that it didn't happen this time either before wasting our time.

md5 checksum is fine

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How exactly did you download?

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Direct Link - 32bit PC - Download DVD

I have no idea what that means. I download by feeding the URI to wget, a downloader. I don't download with a web browser except when the source refuses to disgorge the URI or the referrer is required but fails.

Downloaded from the standard software site: http://software.opensuse.org/122/en Once from "Direct Link" and once from "Pick Mirror" -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/18/2012 05:03 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012-10-18 04:36 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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How exactly did you download?

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Direct Link - 32bit PC - Download DVD

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I have no idea what that means. I download by feeding the URI to wget, a downloader. I don't download with a web browser except when the source refuses to disgorge the URI or the referrer is required but fails.

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Downloaded from the standard software site:

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http://software.opensuse.org/122/en

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Once from "Direct Link" and once from "Pick Mirror"

You still didn't answer my question, which included the word "exactly". Saying what you did here is not equivalent to how you did what you did. It appears you didn't use a downloader, but instead a web browser, but that's just an educated guess. Anyway, since the md5 is OK, and ostensibly it can still boot some other DVD or CD, maybe someone else has an idea.

If you want to install in spite of DVD not working, just extract the installation kernel and initrd from the iso file or DVD, load them with Grub, and install directly off the web using HTTP. I install that way 25-50 times as often as booting from OM. It must have been the DVD. I tried a fresh DVD and it booted but I get the following error:

No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found boot: Also, I was getting this same error on the KDE Live CD boot Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:14:51 -0700 Lew Wolfgang wrote:

On 10/18/2012 03:52 AM, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found boot:

Also, I was getting this same error on the KDE Live CD boot

Hi Duaine,

You mentioned that your DVD drive is working. Did you try booting with your old 12.1 DVD? I've seen DVD drives fail in mysterious ways. If 12.1 also fails to boot maybe it's time to spring for a new drive?

Also, how did you burn the 12.2 DVD? Did you use k3b and select the "verify" option?

You've got an interesting issue there if 12.1 boots, but 12.2 with a good MD5 hash and DVD doesn't.

Regards, Lew

Hi Don't forget different (aka cruddy) media quality and burn speed.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop up 13:51, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.06, 0.06 CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012-10-18 11:54 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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Don't forget different (aka cruddy) media quality and burn speed....

Same parameters and media that I used for 12.1 DVD <frown>

If one-write media, try RW instead. If +, try - instead. Try reburning 12.1 and see if the reburn works. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012-10-18 11:54 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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Don't forget different (aka cruddy) media quality and burn speed....

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Same parameters and media that I used for 12.1 DVD <frown>

If one-write media, try RW instead. If +, try - instead. Try reburning 12.1 and see if the reburn works. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Duaine Hechler [10-18-12 18:04]:

On 10/18/2012 12:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2012-10-18 11:54 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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Don't forget different (aka cruddy) media quality and burn speed....

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Same parameters and media that I used for 12.1 DVD <frown>

If one-write media, try RW instead. If +, try - instead. Try reburning 12.1 and see if the reburn works.

I'm now suspecting that it's the DVD burner. Is there any sure fire software, out there, to test the drive ?

You have done tests to lead to this conclusion/suspicion? List or are you grasping straws (as it seems). You have had several suggestions to try to isolate and identify your problem but you do not offer answers or responses or any kind. You can spend a lot of money replacing hardware that may or may not have any problem, and you continue to delay resolution. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2012-10-18 17:33 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

Going to try an take the ISO to my sons' computer and burn it there and see what happens.

Are there any smokers in the building? If so, or even if not, first try cleaning the burner's lens. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/18/2012 06:58 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2012-10-19 00:33, Duaine Hechler wrote:

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I guess I must elaborate - I tried re-burning 12.1 - once got the error message like 12.2 and once like before, nothing but the cursor in the top left corner of the screen. Ah.

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Going to try an take the ISO to my sons' computer and burn it there and see what happens. Just try to boot your existing DVD in another computer instead of burning more. Also, you can use the selfcheck feature on the boot menu.

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Can I boot an old version and use the selfcheck on the that won't boot ? Also, I found out my DVD drive has gone ballistic. I remembered I had a USB drive and burned the ISO using it. The DVD booted fine. Now to save money for a new drive.............. Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:33 -0500, Duaine Hechler wrote:

On 10/18/2012 05:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Duaine Hechler [10-18-12 18:04]:

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On 10/18/2012 12:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2012-10-18 11:54 (GMT-0500) Duaine Hechler composed:

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>> Don't forget different (aka cruddy) media quality and burn speed.... Same parameters and media that I used for 12.1 DVD <frown> If one-write media, try RW instead. If +, try - instead. Try reburning 12.1 and see if the reburn works. I'm now suspecting that it's the DVD burner. Is there any sure fire software, out there, to test the drive ?

Yes, these are called: k3b,dd and md5sum. take an iso-image, calculate the md5 yourself (just incase), burn it (iso-file locally, single speed) with k3b and enable "verify" rip the just burned dvd, calculate again the md5, compare both md5 checksum. btw, while burning check the load of the system. If it is heavily swapping or with high load one get unpredictable results. While burning, do a tail -f on /var/log/messages: hardware-errors will get mentioned there -;) btw2, try other brand of media. afaicr there are three or four levels of quality. Some are cheap as dirt, but with an obvious reason. btw3, depending how often you are going to use that particular dvd, you might consider other ways of installing: net-boot-cdrom, pxe-boot or usb-stick. I would recommend pxe-boot... hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Duaine Hechler wrote:

Downloaded from the standard software site:

http://software.opensuse.org/122/en

Once from "Direct Link" and once from "Pick Mirror"

The first thing I do after downloading the ISO is run md5sum on it. If that fails, then the download is bad. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org