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Erik Jakobsen

9 Dec 2006 9 Dec '06

06:39

Hi. When chainging the size of a window I have to right click on the most upper blue line. What is it called ?. When having right clicked You can choose Advanced>Special Window settings. Being in the Geometry part here, I can choose to set an "x" in say the "position". After there are some options, and what one shall I choose for setting a value ?. Having set all the values what do I then do ?. I can see, that if I go into a window, that fills the whole monitor, the "Don't affect" is set. Then what is the procedure to set a value, and get it saved, and what to do in between ?. Are there some places where I can read about the job ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Dylan

9 Dec 9 Dec

07:15

On Saturday 09 December 2006 06:39, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Hi.

When chainging the size of a window I have to right click on the most upper blue line. What is it called ?.

The "Title Bar"

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When having right clicked You can choose Advanced>Special Window settings.

Being in the Geometry part here, I can choose to set an "x" in say the "position". After there are some options, and what one shall I choose for setting a value ?.

If you click on the question mark in the title bar then on a control you will get a popup help box

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Having set all the values what do I then do ?.

Click OK

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I can see, that if I go into a window, that fills the whole monitor, the "Don't affect" is set.

Then what is the procedure to set a value, and get it saved, and what to do in between ?.

Are there some places where I can read about the job ?

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Erik Jakobsen

07:22

Dylan wrote:

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On Saturday 09 December 2006 06:39, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Hi.

When chainging the size of a window I have to right click on the most upper blue line. What is it called ?.

The "Title Bar"

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When having right clicked You can choose Advanced>Special Window settings.

Being in the Geometry part here, I can choose to set an "x" in say the "position". After there are some options, and what one shall I choose for setting a value ?.

If you click on the question mark in the title bar then on a control you will get a popup help box

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Having set all the values what do I then do ?.

Click OK

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I can see, that if I go into a window, that fills the whole monitor, the "Don't affect" is set.

Then what is the procedure to set a value, and get it saved, and what to do in between ?.

Are there some places where I can read about the job ?

Thanks Dylan and Darryl, I'll see what I can find out of. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Darryl Gregorash

07:18

On 2006-12-09 00:39, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Hi.

When chainging the size of a window I have to right click on the most upper blue line. What is it called ?.

The title bar.

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When having right clicked You can choose Advanced>Special Window settings.

Being in the Geometry part here, I can choose to set an "x" in say the "position". After there are some options, and what one shall I choose for setting a value ?.

The numbers represent the pixel locations of the upper left corner of the window. 0,0 is the upper left corner of the screen. I think the first number is the horizontal position.

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Having set all the values what do I then do ?.

Click "OK"? :-)

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I can see, that if I go into a window, that fills the whole monitor, the "Don't affect" is set.

Because the window fills the whole screen -- by definition, its upper left corner must be in the upper left corner of the screen. You can see that in the "size" selection, which is set to the screen size, eg. if your screen size is 1280x1024, then "1280,1024" is the lower right corner of the screen.

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Then what is the procedure to set a value, and get it saved, and what to do in between ?.

1. Click on the box. 2. Select the screen behaviour you want. Force should mean you cannot change the window size, "apply initially" means that window size will be set every time you start the application. If you choose "remember" the size of the window when the application is stopped will become the window size the next time it is started. 3. Click "OK".

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Are there some places where I can read about the job ?

In KDE Help, the selection points to the wrong place. Maybe there is something at kde.org. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

07:50

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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On 2006-12-09 00:39, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Hi.

When chainging the size of a window I have to right click on the most upper blue line. What is it called ?.

The title bar.

...
When having right clicked You can choose Advanced>Special Window settings.

Being in the Geometry part here, I can choose to set an "x" in say the "position". After there are some options, and what one shall I choose for setting a value ?.

The numbers represent the pixel locations of the upper left corner of the window. 0,0 is the upper left corner of the screen. I think the first number is the horizontal position.

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Having set all the values what do I then do ?.

Click "OK"? :-)

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I can see, that if I go into a window, that fills the whole monitor, the "Don't affect" is set.

Because the window fills the whole screen -- by definition, its upper left corner must be in the upper left corner of the screen. You can see that in the "size" selection, which is set to the screen size, eg. if your screen size is 1280x1024, then "1280,1024" is the lower right corner of the screen.

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Then what is the procedure to set a value, and get it saved, and what to do in between ?.

1. Click on the box. 2. Select the screen behaviour you want. Force should mean you cannot change the window size, "apply initially" means that window size will be set every time you start the application. If you choose "remember" the size of the window when the application is stopped will become the window size the next time it is started. 3. Click "OK".

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Are there some places where I can read about the job ?

In KDE Help, the selection points to the wrong place. Maybe there is something at kde.org.

Hi Darryl. Thanks for the nice explanation. But I still have some problem(s), and cannot get it to work. I have made some screenshots: http://www.urbakken.dk/geometry.jpg Should that here work by clicking at "OK" ? It doesn't ??. http://www.urbakken.dk/Geometry2.jpg What lacks here if anything. Is there at all more to take care of, for instance the size of the charachters ? Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Darryl Gregorash

08:55

On 2006-12-09 01:50, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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I have made some screenshots:

http://www.urbakken.dk/geometry.jpg

If your screen size is 1280x1024, then that window is maximized. You've duplicated this by checking the maximize horizontally and maximize vertically boxes. I do not think you want to check "full screen", which is not the same thing as "maximize". In full screen, you don't have a title bar or borders.

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Should that here work by clicking at "OK" ? It doesn't ??.

Probably it takes effect the next time you start the application.

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http://www.urbakken.dk/Geometry2.jpg

What lacks here if anything.

When you right click on the title bar, everything should be filled in correctly already by KDE.

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Is there at all more to take care of, for instance the size of the charachters ? I do not know how to configure the fonts in xterm, which doesn't seem to have a menu bar. In konsole, which I use, the font selection and size are in a menu selection.

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Erik Jakobsen

09:09

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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On 2006-12-09 01:50, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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I have made some screenshots:

http://www.urbakken.dk/geometry.jpg

If your screen size is 1280x1024, then that window is maximized. You've duplicated this by checking the maximize horizontally and maximize vertically boxes.

I do not think you want to check "full screen", which is not the same thing as "maximize". In full screen, you don't have a title bar or borders.

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Should that here work by clicking at "OK" ? It doesn't ??.

Probably it takes effect the next time you start the application.

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http://www.urbakken.dk/Geometry2.jpg

What lacks here if anything.

When you right click on the title bar, everything should be filled in correctly already by KDE.

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Is there at all more to take care of, for instance the size of the charachters ?

I do not know how to configure the fonts in xterm, which doesn't seem to have a menu bar. In konsole, which I use, the font selection and size are in a menu selection.

Hi again Darryl. Thanks for Your information. Again, I try what I can find out of. Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

09:50

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

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On 2006-12-09 01:50, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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I have made some screenshots:

http://www.urbakken.dk/geometry.jpg

If your screen size is 1280x1024, then that window is maximized. You've duplicated this by checking the maximize horizontally and maximize vertically boxes.

I do not think you want to check "full screen", which is not the same thing as "maximize". In full screen, you don't have a title bar or borders.

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Should that here work by clicking at "OK" ? It doesn't ??.

Probably it takes effect the next time you start the application.

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http://www.urbakken.dk/Geometry2.jpg

What lacks here if anything.

When you right click on the title bar, everything should be filled in correctly already by KDE.

...
Is there at all more to take care of, for instance the size of the charachters ?

I do not know how to configure the fonts in xterm, which doesn't seem to have a menu bar. In konsole, which I use, the font selection and size are in a menu selection.

Hi again Darryl. I have changed the setup, so that there should be no duplicates now: http://www.urbakken.dk/xterm4.jpg But even if I try to reboot it has no effect at all. There must be something, that I'm not doing right I think Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

11 Dec 11 Dec

07:27

The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window. What I have tried is the options mentioned under the 6 options: Do not affect Apply initial Remember Force Apply now Force temporarily I have for instance choosen the "Force" after having set the wanted figures. After I clicked on "OK", and the xterm got maximized. Then I closed the xterm, and restarted it where the old little xterm screen reappeared. I looked back in the setting area, and could see, that "Force" still was active, even the little screen was active. It seems like the manually settings are not saved even I clicked on "OK" after having set the wanted figures. What the heck can be the reason ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

14:40

* Erik Jakobsen [12-11-06 02:28]:

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

xterm -help -geometry geom size (in characters) and position man xterm then alias xterm to xterm='xterm -geometry <geom>' -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

14:57

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-11-06 02:28]:

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

xterm -help -geometry geom size (in characters) and position

man xterm

then alias xterm to xterm='xterm -geometry <geom>'

Hi Patrick and thanks for Your reply. The first command gave this and a new xterm lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geom 0,0 No absolute path found for shell: 0,0 The second option did not change anything in the new xterm. Is it correct, what I have written below ? lajka3:~ # xterm='xterm -geometry <1288,993>' lajka3:~ # -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

17:37

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geom 0,0 No absolute path found for shell: 0,0

xterm -geomtry <geometry> geometry ::= <size> "x" <height> [ ( "+" | "-" ) <xoffset> ( "+" | "-" ) <yoffset> ] 80x25, 132x60+200+400 are valid, f.ex.

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-`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

12 Dec 12 Dec

06:30

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geom 0,0 No absolute path found for shell: 0,0

xterm -geomtry <geometry>

geometry ::= <size> "x" <height> [ ( "+" | "-" ) <xoffset> ( "+" | "-" ) <yoffset> ]

80x25, 132x60+200+400 are valid, f.ex.

-`J'

Hello Jan. I get this: lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 xterm: bad command line option "::=" What's the difference between what we both writes ? Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

12:57

* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 01:32]:

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Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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xterm -geomtry <geometry>

geometry ::= <size> "x" <height> [ ( "+" | "-" ) <xoffset> ( "+" | "-" ) <yoffset> ]

80x25, 132x60+200+400 are valid, f.ex.

I get this:

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 xterm: bad command line option "::="

What's the difference between what we both writes ?

Come on now, you need to read the example. xterm -geometry <geometry> xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400 very helpful to all: xterm -help man xterm info xterm -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

19:28

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 01:32]:

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Jan Engelhardt wrote:

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xterm -geomtry <geometry>

geometry ::= <size> "x" <height> [ ( "+" | "-" ) <xoffset> ( "+" | "-" ) <yoffset> ]

80x25, 132x60+200+400 are valid, f.ex.

I get this:

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 xterm: bad command line option "::="

What's the difference between what we both writes ?

Come on now, you need to read the example.

xterm -geometry <geometry>

xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400

very helpful to all: xterm -help man xterm info xterm

Just here at the present I cannot see what to do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

20:33

* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 14:30]:

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 01:32]:

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Jan Engelhardt wrote:

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 xterm: bad command line option "::="

above you have: xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 which is definitely not the same as:

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xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400

reading would be helpful. Search for Rute on google or visit the linux document project. Learn to use the control line.

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very helpful to all: xterm -help man xterm info xterm

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Just here at the present I cannot see what to do.

can you see now? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

13 Dec 13 Dec

04:36

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 14:30]:

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 01:32]:

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Jan Engelhardt wrote:

lajka3:~ # xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400 xterm: bad command line option "::="

above you have: xterm -geometry geometry ::= 80x25, 132x60+200+400

which is definitely not the same as:

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xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400

I agree Patrick, but what I did was wrting the line as You have suggested.

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reading would be helpful. Search for Rute on google or visit the linux document project. Learn to use the control line.

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very helpful to all: xterm -help man xterm info xterm

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Just here at the present I cannot see what to do.

can you see now?

Not exactly, but I'll do a serious walk through the man. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

14:06

* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 23:37]:

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I agree Patrick, but what I did was wrting the line as You have suggested.

point: It was Jan's example you used. point2: Not knowing the parameters that _you_ desire, it is normal to present the command syntax with a ?place-holder? where you would put _your_ intended parameters, ie: xterm -geometry <geometry> ^^^^^^^^^^ where you put what you wish xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400 You are past the _basic_ point-and-shoot, mousey graphical user interface here. It would behoove you to consult a text dealing with the *nix command line, or (at least) the man files and help extensions. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

15:12

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Erik Jakobsen [12-12-06 23:37]:

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I agree Patrick, but what I did was wrting the line as You have suggested.

point: It was Jan's example you used.

point2: Not knowing the parameters that _you_ desire, it is normal to present the command syntax with a ?place-holder? where you would put _your_ intended parameters, ie: xterm -geometry <geometry> ^^^^^^^^^^ where you put what you wish

xterm -geometry 80x25, 132x60+200+400

You are past the _basic_ point-and-shoot, mousey graphical user interface here. It would behoove you to consult a text dealing with the *nix command line, or (at least) the man files and help extensions.

Hi Patrick. Pardon for telling that I used Your example. I'll search for more details, and look for some of Your words, that I cannot quite translate. Maybe I understand better after a translation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Don Raboud

11 Dec 11 Dec

17:11

On Monday 11 December 2006 00:27, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

What I have tried is the options mentioned under the 6 options:

Do not affect Apply initial Remember Force Apply now Force temporarily

I have for instance choosen the "Force" after having set the wanted figures. After I clicked on "OK", and the xterm got maximized.

Then I closed the xterm, and restarted it where the old little xterm screen reappeared.

I looked back in the setting area, and could see, that "Force" still was active, even the little screen was active.

It seems like the manually settings are not saved even I clicked on "OK" after having set the wanted figures.

What the heck can be the reason ?

Any luck with this? For what it is worth, xterm is obeying the manual settings here. Since you have tried many things, maybe there are some conflicts. Try opening xterm, in the title bar select "configure window behavior" and then pick "Window-Specific Settings". If you see a bunch of entries for" Application setting for xterm" get rid of them all. Then try once again Advanced -> Special Application Settings and set Maximize Horizontally - Apply Initially - and check the last checkbox (these are just what I selected as a test case) Close xterm. Next time xterm is run it is maximized horizontally here. Hope this helps. -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen

12 Dec 12 Dec

19:31

Don Raboud wrote:

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On Monday 11 December 2006 00:27, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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The Xterm is still not fixed. I can get xterm to get maximized, but after it has been closed and opened again it has the same little window.

What I have tried is the options mentioned under the 6 options:

Do not affect Apply initial Remember Force Apply now Force temporarily

I have for instance choosen the "Force" after having set the wanted figures. After I clicked on "OK", and the xterm got maximized.

Then I closed the xterm, and restarted it where the old little xterm screen reappeared.

I looked back in the setting area, and could see, that "Force" still was active, even the little screen was active.

It seems like the manually settings are not saved even I clicked on "OK" after having set the wanted figures.

What the heck can be the reason ?

Any luck with this?

For what it is worth, xterm is obeying the manual settings here. Since you have tried many things, maybe there are some conflicts.

Try opening xterm, in the title bar select "configure window behavior" and then pick "Window-Specific Settings". If you see a bunch of entries for" Application setting for xterm" get rid of them all.

Then try once again Advanced -> Special Application Settings and set

Maximize Horizontally - Apply Initially - and check the last checkbox (these are just what I selected as a test case)

Close xterm. Next time xterm is run it is maximized horizontally here.

Hope this helps.

Thannks, will give it a try tomorrow. Tired after a visit at the dentist ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

11 Dec 11 Dec

18:43

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I do not know how to configure the fonts in xterm, which doesn't seem to have a menu bar. In konsole, which I use, the font selection and size are in a menu selection.

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Erik Jakobsen

12 Dec 12 Dec