On Sunday 14 June 2009, James Hatridge wrote:

HI Per,

On Sunday 14 June 2009 09:08:19 Per Jessen wrote:

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James Hatridge wrote:

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Hi all,

I got a Hitachi 1TB hd last week. I could not get my system to see it.

Hi Jim - _how_ was it not seen? Did the BIOS not recognize it?

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I'm sure that the motherboard is working, I moved the other hds around and I could see that the system at boot was finding the new hd. But it would skip it.

Okay, your BIOS skips it - then my guess is that it is too big although I didn't think there was any special BIOS limit around the Terabyte level.

During the boot the system would find the first 3 disks and then wait for 30-60 seconds. Then it would go on with the boot. I changed the cables around making the new disk #3 and my older disk #4. When I booted then it stopped at #3 for 30-60 seconds then skipped to #4 and found my old disk at #4. So I then had disks at #1,#2, and #4.

I wonder about the disk being too big because the MB is about 3 years old and back then there was nothing bigger than about 500gb.

I think I'll return it and get a little smaller one, say 600-750gb.

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Hello, On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, James Hatridge wrote:

On Sunday 14 June 2009 09:08:19 Per Jessen wrote:

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James Hatridge wrote:

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I got a Hitachi 1TB hd last week. I could not get my system to see it.

Hi Jim - _how_ was it not seen? Did the BIOS not recognize it?

...

I'm sure that the motherboard is working, I moved the other hds around and I could see that the system at boot was finding the new hd. But it would skip it.

Okay, your BIOS skips it - then my guess is that it is too big although I didn't think there was any special BIOS limit around the Terabyte level.

During the boot the system would find the first 3 disks and then wait for 30-60 seconds. Then it would go on with the boot. I changed the cables around making the new disk #3 and my older disk #4. When I booted then it stopped at #3 for 30-60 seconds then skipped to #4 and found my old disk at #4. So I then had disks at #1,#2, and #4.

I wonder about the disk being too big because the MB is about 3 years old and back then there was nothing bigger than about 500gb.

I think I'll return it and get a little smaller one, say 600-750gb.

I doubt that'll help. The next lower limit I know of below 1TB is 137GB (128 * 2^30 B / GiBiBytes). And I use 4 IDE drives over that up to 500 GB on a MoBo from 2000 (BIOS Release: 11/17/99!), AMD-756 [Viper] IDE controller. The BIOS shows the drives as 136GB, but no problems under Linux (haven't used Windows with those drives though). Next problematic size I know of is at 2 TiBiB. What your problem might be, is that your drive is (un)jumpered to use SATA 2.0 / 3 GBit/s Mode but your controller / BIOS can't handle that. Have a look at the jumpers, usually there is one to set the drive to SATA1 / 1.5 GBit/s mode. Do you happen to have one of the controllers mentioned in this?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA#SATA_1.5_Gbit.2Fs_and_SATA_3_Gbit.2Fs HTH, -dnh -- SIG kill(ed) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:18 AM, David Haller wrote:

Hello,

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, James Hatridge wrote: <snip>

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I wonder about the disk being too big because the MB is about 3 years old and back then there was nothing bigger than about 500gb.

I think I'll return it and get a little smaller one, say 600-750gb.

I doubt that'll help. The next lower limit I know of below 1TB is 137GB (128 * 2^30 B / GiBiBytes). And I use 4 IDE drives over that up to 500 GB on a MoBo from 2000 (BIOS Release: 11/17/99!), AMD-756 [Viper] IDE controller. The BIOS shows the drives as 136GB, but no problems under Linux (haven't used Windows with those drives though).

Logically I agree, but my real world experience differs. I know that we had a number of SIL sata controllers that worked with 500GB drives fine and failed to work with 1 TB drives. I don't recall if they worked with 750 GB drives or not. We got a firmware update from SIL and updated our cards so I can no longer test that. So far we have tested this firmware version with 1.5 TB drives. Haven't bought any 2 TiB drives yet. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2009-06-23 at 12:52 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

Logically I agree, but my real world experience differs.

I know that we had a number of SIL sata controllers that worked with 500GB drives fine and failed to work with 1 TB drives. I don't recall if they worked with 750 GB drives or not. We got a firmware update from SIL and updated our cards so I can no longer test that.

So far we have tested this firmware version with 1.5 TB drives. Haven't bought any 2 TiB drives yet.

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* Carlos E. R. [06-23-09 15:04]:

On Tuesday, 2009-06-23 at 12:52 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Logically I agree, but my real world experience differs.

I know that we had a number of SIL sata controllers that worked with 500GB drives fine and failed to work with 1 TB drives. I don't recall if they worked with 750 GB drives or not. We got a firmware update from SIL and updated our cards so I can no longer test that.

So far we have tested this firmware version with 1.5 TB drives. Haven't bought any 2 TiB drives yet.

While shopping for USB HD enclosures, I saw a few of them which specified a size limit well under 1 TB.

Ditto, I have a usb enclosure that has a 200mb limit, but it is several years old. I also have an external sata 2TB drive that is marvelous. With the pci-express card 300mb/s seems like another *internal* drive. (hot pluggable). Gave us$109 for the drive at Frys in Indianapolis. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org