Re: [opensuse] Notepad++ replacement needed
On 06/05/10 20:09, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
When you say "move line up and down", what do you mean? Are you talking about swapping lines? Copy paste? Indentation?
Like swapping, but moving up or down. Swap just swaps 2 lines. But what if I want to move current line (or better selected lines) up for several lines? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:13 PM, arygroup@gmail.com
On 06/05/10 20:09, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
When you say "move line up and down", what do you mean? Are you talking about swapping lines? Copy paste? Indentation?
Like swapping, but moving up or down. Swap just swaps 2 lines. But what if I want to move current line (or better selected lines) up for several lines? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
The +5 was to Kate. Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse, do a ctrl+x and move your cursor to where you want them and do a ctrl+v. -- ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate.
Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse, do a ctrl+x and move your cursor to where you want them and do a ctrl+v.
Surely I can move lines in several ways, even dragging and dropping by mouse. But I want to work with comfort (-: I prefer not to touch mouse. I need some very comfotable environment, like it was with notepad++ in my previous unhappy life. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2010/5/6 arygroup@gmail.com
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate.
Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse, do a ctrl+x and move your cursor to where you want them and do a ctrl+v.
Surely I can move lines in several ways, even dragging and dropping by mouse. But I want to work with comfort (-: I prefer not to touch mouse.
I need some very comfotable environment, like it was with notepad++ in my previous unhappy life. --
Vim is for you in that case :) -- Ciro Iriarte http://cyruspy.wordpress.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 06 May 2010 2:28:46 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it
it isn't so bad, really -- did you try the tutorial that comes with it? sc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/05/10 23:10, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 2:28:46 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it
it isn't so bad, really -- did you try the tutorial that comes with it?
sc
No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 06 May 2010 3:24:14 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 23:10, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 2:28:46 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it
it isn't so bad, really -- did you try the tutorial that comes with it?
sc
No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid.
don't be afraid, just respectful -- and the time you spend learing vim will be the best investment you could make with your time here -- put these in your .vimrc and F8 will advance the current line, shift-F8 will move it back (in both normal and insert modes): nmap <silent> <F8> :m+<CR> imap <silent> <F8> <ESC>:m+<CR>a nmap <silent> <S-F8> :m-2<CR> imap <silent> <S-F8> <ESC>:m-2<CR>a i don't blame you for wanting that feature -- i use them so much i put them on F8 sc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday May 6 2010, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 3:24:14 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
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No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid.
don't be afraid, just respectful -- and the time you spend learing vim will be the best investment you could make with your time
As a dyed-in-the-wool Vi / Vim user, if I were starting out now, I'd go with Emacs, no question.
...
sc
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On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 16:04 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday May 6 2010, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 3:24:14 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
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No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid.
don't be afraid, just respectful -- and the time you spend learing vim will be the best investment you could make with your time
As a dyed-in-the-wool Vi / Vim user, if I were starting out now, I'd go with Emacs, no question.
Here go the religious wars... I have to ask why? I, too, am a DITW VI/M user. I accept it warts and all. And even emacs has warts. Is there a variety of wart that is of specific concern? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2010/5/6 Randall R Schulz
On Thursday May 6 2010, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 3:24:14 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
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No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid.
don't be afraid, just respectful -- and the time you spend learing vim will be the best investment you could make with your time
As a dyed-in-the-wool Vi / Vim user, if I were starting out now, I'd go with Emacs, no question.
...
sc
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Well, I'm a all-time Vi/Vim user, and I see, enviously, that emacs has some interesting features, like the ability to embed GDB :D Regards, -- Ciro Iriarte http://cyruspy.wordpress.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2010/5/6 arygroup@gmail.com
On 06/05/10 23:10, sc wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2010 2:28:46 pm arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it
it isn't so bad, really -- did you try the tutorial that comes with it?
sc
No. But my local huru promised me a week of learning before I can start understand it. So I'm afraid.
Just print some of the Vi/Vim references cards out there and keep going.... Also, if you like cheating, you can run notepad++ using wine Ref: http://www.cheat-sheets.org/#Vi http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2983 Regards, -- Ciro Iriarte http://cyruspy.wordpress.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
arygroup@gmail.com said the following on 05/06/2010 03:28 PM:
On 06/05/10 22:19, Ciro Iriarte wrote:
Vim is for you in that case :)
It seems terribly hard to understand. I tried several times but with no luck. I have no a week of time only to understand how to edit text. I don't understand how people can use it :-)
Ah. I see your problem now. You're trying to 'understand' the editor. That's what you're doing wrong. I've been using VI for nearly 30 years (since 1982 actually) and I don't 'understand it'. I did look at the code once, back in about '83 and didn't understand it, but I didn't let that bother me. I don't think about 'editing'. I just think about what I want the file to look like and somehow "my fingers do the walking" on the keyboard. I guess its my fingers that 'understand' the editor. And VI bears absolutely no resemblance to EMACS. My fingers simply can't grok EMACS. -- "Key escrow to rule them all; key escrow to find them. Key escrow to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. In the land of surveillance where Big Brother lies." -- Peter Gutmann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday May 6 2010, Anton Aylward wrote:
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I don't think about 'editing'. I just think about what I want the file to look like and somehow "my fingers do the walking" on the keyboard.
I guess its my fingers that 'understand' the editor.
It's the basal ganglia, baby!
And VI bears absolutely no resemblance to EMACS. My fingers simply can't grok EMACS.
Likewise. For whatever reason, I can learn as many mouse-and-menu editors as you throw at me, but when I sit down to do an Emacs tutorial, my fingers do Vi. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 20:43 +0300, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate. Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse,
In gedit just highlight the rows and drag them up or down. Actually you can drag any block of text.
do a ctrl+x and move your cursor to
where you want them and do a ctrl+v. Surely I can move lines in several ways, even dragging and dropping by mouse. But I want to work with comfort (-: I prefer not to touch mouse. I need some very comfotable environment, like it was with notepad++ in my previous unhappy life.
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 06/05/10 23:59, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 20:43 +0300, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate. Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse,
In gedit just highlight the rows and drag them up or down. Actually you can drag any block of text.
I need usability. But this way takes too much time when much coding. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
arygroup@gmail.com said the following on 05/06/2010 05:23 PM:
On 06/05/10 23:59, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 20:43 +0300, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate. Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse,
In gedit just highlight the rows and drag them up or down. Actually you can drag any block of text.
I need usability. But this way takes too much time when much coding.
Coding? And in VI it would be 'ddp' I think you will never be satisfied. Plonk goes this thread -- The interests of society are better served by a system that encourages efficient trade activity than by one that encourages litigation. -- Amber Manx in Charles Stross's "Accerando" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 00:23 +0300, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 23:59, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 20:43 +0300, arygroup@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/05/10 20:35, Chuck Payne wrote:
The +5 was to Kate. Kate works like most gui base programs. If you are want move line, hi-lite them with your mouse, In gedit just highlight the rows and drag them up or down. Actually you can drag any block of text. I need usability. But this way takes too much time when much coding.
If you are coding use an IDE like Monodevelop or Anjuta. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 06 May 2010 15:59:38 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
In gedit just highlight the rows and drag them up or down. Actually you can drag any block of text.
The same is in Kate. You can mark any block of text and drag it to any place you want, whether it is the same text, one line up, the middle of the line, or some other place on the Internet; like openSUSE wiki :) And, thanks for the reminder. I know it works that way, but it is hard to break old habits ctrl+x, ctrl+v and middle mouse button. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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