On 10/01/2012 01:37 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Phil Savoie wrote:

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Hi All,

I just installed subject but find it will not boot unless the insstall dvd is in the drive and I point to HD install. The machine will not boot otherwise.

What does it do when the DVD is not in the drive?

It would probably also be good to have a look at your grub-configuration.

Hello Per, Thank you for your response. When my machine boots, it hangs on the Boot from CDROM: prompt. But the strange thing is, it worked well prior to this with Centos installed. This machine is 2 months old. I will be at work today, So there will be a delay in my response. This is my first kick at grub2 as well. As for the grub.cfg, it is as follows: quartz:~ # cat /boot/grub2/grub.cfg # # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub # ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then load_env fi set default="${saved_entry}" if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then menuentry_id_option="--id" else menuentry_id_option="" fi export menuentry_id_option if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}" save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi function savedefault { if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then saved_entry="${chosen}" save_env saved_entry fi } function load_video { if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then insmod all_video else insmod efi_gop insmod efi_uga insmod ieee1275_fb insmod vbe insmod vga insmod video_bochs insmod video_cirrus fi } if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then font=unicode else insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi font="/usr/share/grub2/unicode.pf2" fi if loadfont $font ; then set gfxmode=auto load_video insmod gfxterm set locale_dir=$prefix/locale set lang=en_US insmod gettext fi terminal_output gfxterm insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi insmod gfxmenu loadfont ($root)/boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/ascii.pf2 loadfont ($root)/boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/DejaVuSans10.pf2 loadfont ($root)/boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/DejaVuSans12.pf2 loadfont ($root)/boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/DejaVuSans-Bold14.pf2 insmod png set theme=($root)/boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/theme.txt export theme insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi insmod png background_image -m stretch /boot/grub2/themes/openSUSE/background.png if [ x${boot_once} = xtrue ]; then set timeout=0 elif sleep --interruptible 0 ; then set timeout=8 fi ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### menuentry 'openSUSE' --class opensuse --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0' { load_video set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi echo 'Loading Linux 3.4.6-2.10-desktop ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.6-2.10-desktop root=UUID=13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 video=1920x1080 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-OCZ_VERTEX_PLUS_7CV2X9MIAFB9YWK3X70D-part2 splash=silent quiet showopts echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd-3.4.6-2.10-desktop } submenu 'Advanced options for openSUSE' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0' { menuentry 'openSUSE, with Linux 3.4.6-2.10-desktop' --class opensuse --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.4.6-2.10-desktop-advanced-13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0' { load_video set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi echo 'Loading Linux 3.4.6-2.10-desktop ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.6-2.10-desktop root=UUID=13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 video=1920x1080 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-OCZ_VERTEX_PLUS_7CV2X9MIAFB9YWK3X70D-part2 splash=silent quiet showopts echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd-3.4.6-2.10-desktop } menuentry 'openSUSE, with Linux 3.4.6-2.10-desktop (recovery mode)' --class opensuse --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.4.6-2.10-desktop-recovery-13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0' { load_video set gfxpayload=keep insmod gzio insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd3,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd3,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd3,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci3,msdos1 --hint='hd3,msdos1' 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 fi echo 'Loading Linux 3.4.6-2.10-desktop ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.6-2.10-desktop root=UUID=13aa6cbd-df89-4e0f-898b-97a4b5a5f5c0 showopts apm=off noresume edd=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 nomodeset x11failsafe echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd-3.4.6-2.10-desktop } } ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ### ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ### ### END /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### menuentry 'Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sdc1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-E450CF8B50CF62C2' { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs set root='hd2,msdos1' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd2,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd2,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci2,msdos1 --hint='hd2,msdos1' E450CF8B50CF62C2 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root E450CF8B50CF62C2 fi chainloader +1 } ### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ### if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then source $prefix/custom.cfg; fi ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ### ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/90_persistent ### ### END /etc/grub.d/90_persistent ### quartz:~ # Thanks again, Phil -- Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/01/2012 12:47 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

I'm not using grub myself, I'm hoping someone else might have a look for you :-)

Hello Per - what, please, do you use ?? Is LILO preferred by some folks ?? thanks best regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/01/2012 02:09 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

Yes, I use lilo. The only thing lilo won't do for me is boot xen.

aha - thanks ......... any ideas if i can get YAST to move me back to LILO ?? - is this likely to be problem-full?? ................... { seems to be that things start simple and splendid . . . as they 'improve' they lose simplicity and get improved into oblivion } ............ best regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/01/2012 03:25 PM, Per Jessen wrote: LILO ____

so a little manual fixing might be required on occasion. I don't know about moving back to lilo, I have never tried it.

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On 10/1/2012 5:52 AM, ellanios82 wrote:

On 10/01/2012 12:47 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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I'm not using grub myself, I'm hoping someone else might have a look for you :-)

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Hello Per

- what, please, do you use ??

Is LILO preferred by some folks ??

thanks

best regards

lilo, elilo, gag, windows, bsd, any number of other bootloaders. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/01/2012 05:47 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Phil Savoie wrote:

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On 10/01/2012 01:37 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Phil Savoie wrote:

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Hi All,

I just installed subject but find it will not boot unless the insstall dvd is in the drive and I point to HD install. The machine will not boot otherwise.

What does it do when the DVD is not in the drive?

It would probably also be good to have a look at your grub-configuration.

Hello Per,

Thank you for your response. When my machine boots, it hangs on the Boot from CDROM: prompt. But the strange thing is, it worked well prior to this with Centos installed. This machine is 2 months old.

Hi Phil

That sounds more like a BIOS issue - when there's nothing in the drive, it should just skip to the next boot-device in the list. I guess you never even get to see the grub menu?

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I will be at work today, So there will be a delay in my response. This is my first kick at grub2 as well. As for the grub.cfg, it is as follows:

I'm not using grub myself, I'm hoping someone else might have a look for you :-)

I don't think it is a bios problem as it worked properly with a single os in the past without error. I tend to think that grub2 just doesn't know where to go to find the boot disk. Phil -- Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer said the following on 10/01/2012 08:37 AM:

Anton Aylward wrote:

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Is there a tool which shows the non file system stuff on the disk, what boot records there, in an intelligent (aka non-hex-dump) format, so that we can see how the bios is going to boot?

I know that the partition editors flag bootable partitions, but what is "in there"?

Anton,

I think the answer to your question is no.

== details Sector 0 (or "master boot record (mbr)") is what drives a standard bios boot sequence. (I don't know about efi).

The partition table is in a portion of sector zero and various tools will dump that for you.

But much of sector zero is a small machine code boot loader. You can of course dissassemble it, but I doubt it would tell you much. Most boot solutions (lilo, grub, windows) replace the boot loader section of sector 0 with their own code.

No need to reply to me as well as the list :-) Yes, I understand that, but as you say, I'd have to disassemble it. What I'm talking about is _interpreting_ what's there. For example, when I install Linux I'm given an option of where I want the boot loader to go. What if I forget? Is there nothing that can take a walk through the chain from the MBR an tell me where everything is? Well obvious there is: its how things get booted! But how can I _inspect_ that? Suppose I have boot records on each partition. How can I tell the disk-level mbr to chain to one rather than another? Is there an inspector/editor for this? -- Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." Charles M. Schulz, Charlie Brown in "Peanuts" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org