No, all the apps such as ssh and the ssl options are all included on the CDs. - Herman On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jeric wrote: ->With 7.0 some of the high encryption programs where not included with SuSE ->due to im/export regulations, so they had to be downloaded separately. Is ->this regulation still lifted, or do I have to download these packages with ->8.1, like I did with 7.0? -> ->thanks, ->jeric -> -> -> -> ->