On 12/19/2014 06:57 PM, Bernhard Voelker wrote:

On 12/19/2014 08:49 AM, Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

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Hm, that is really strange, download webpage still shows links from that download area, but /pub/ folder does not exist there... yeah, it's always bad news when a pub is closed. ;-/

Thanks for the packman hint - I think I'll wait some time whether the videolan guys restore the data.

Have a nice day, Berny

I *strongly* recommend that you use the 1-click install to be found here- http://opensuse-community.org/ if you want to have VLC working correctly. I watch TV on my computer using VLC and the only sure way I can get it to work is to use the 1-click install. Worked perfectly for 13.1, 13.2, and Tumbleweed. After using the1-click install, go into YaST and make sure that all the necessary files to view multi-media etc. are installed. BC -- Using openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE 4.14.3, kernel 3.18.1-1 with a system- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 20/12/14 01:38, Bernhard Voelker wrote:

On 12/19/2014 03:02 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I *strongly* recommend that you use the 1-click install to be found here-

http://opensuse-community.org/

Interestingly, the 1-click installs distinguish between the KDE and Gnome desktops ... while I am user neither - and just want the thing going for VLC; strange.

Serves you right then for not using either KDE or Gnome :-D .

However, this still doesn't answer the question why the Linux version suddenly disappeared from "download.videolan.org".

No, it doesn't, and I cannot answer because I have downloaded and installed the files directly from packman or recently now use the 1-click install. But, all this does raise the question of why are those NOT using KDE or Gnome DEs not catered for in the 1-click install facility? openSUSE, no matter which DE is used with it, uses the RPM package manager. I notice that there is only a 0.4Kb difference between the RPMs for these 2 DEs - which I suspect would be solely due to the icons/widgets/whizzbangs (whoever came up with 'widgets' ought to be tested for IQ!) used in them. So, the question: what do others who want to use the other available DEs in openSUSE need to do to get their multi-media working?

Thanks & have a nice day, Berny

Reciprocated. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.3 & kernel 3.18.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/21/2014 03:39 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2014-12-21 03:15, Basil Chupin wrote:

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But, all this does raise the question of why are those NOT using KDE or Gnome DEs not catered for in the 1-click install facility? Yes, but:

https://forums.opensuse.org/ --> select multimedia

https://forums.opensuse.org/forumdisplay.php/670-Multimedia --> click on the sticky (Multimedia the Easy Way) -->

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/452884-Multimedia-in-One-Click

--> click on the "more complicated Multimedia Guide" link --> Seek for 13.1 instructions. -->

https://forums.opensuse.org/entry.php/149-openSUSE-13-1-Multi-media-and-Rest...

"openSUSE 13.1 Multimedia Guide"

That blog has the manual steps, which again, are for KDE/Gnome, but the later is also for xfce/lxde, and you can easily edit out components specific for gnome.

Thank you Carlos but who ever goes to these fora? A person starts Firefox and sees the entry "openSUSE" under the URL box; Thinks, "Aha, there could be some documentation on how to have multimedia working" and clicks on the entry -- and Behold! there is shown "openSUSE Documentation"! The person is in raptures - until s/he finds that it is virtually impossible to see anything useful re multimedia except - when by accident, or in a drunken or enraged state - s/he stumbles across the words "opensuse-community.org" and then comes across http://opensuse-community.org/ where the 1-click install appears. Now, if you want to be really helpful to all those suffering souls who install openSUSE and then have to go thru hell to get their multimedia working why not add there all the hints about what to do when one is not using KDE or Gnome but one of the other DEs? :-) [pruned] BC -- Using openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE 4.14.3, kernel 3.18.1-1 with a system- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 22/12/14 00:41, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Basil Chupin [12-21-14 01:37]: [...]

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Thank you Carlos but who ever goes to these fora? And that is like asking who installs multimedia, but ...

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A person starts Firefox and sees the entry "openSUSE" under the URL box; Thinks, "Aha, there could be some documentation on how to have multimedia working" and clicks on the entry -- and Behold! there is shown "openSUSE Documentation"! The person is in raptures - until s/he finds that it is virtually impossible to see anything useful re multimedia except - when by accident, or in a drunken or enraged state - s/he stumbles across the words "opensuse-community.org" and then comes across http://opensuse-community.org/ where the 1-click install appears.

Now, if you want to be really helpful to all those suffering souls who install openSUSE and then have to go thru hell to get their multimedia working why not add there all the hints about what to do when one is not using KDE or Gnome but one of the other DEs? :-) And you will indemnify the site owners? You already knew the answer the the question so *why* start another endless thread about how *utu does it?

Watcha talking about Patrick?! Where does "*utu" come into this? Carlos indicates that this multimedia is covered in the fora so why not add it to the bit where the 1-click install appears for those using KDE or GNOME desktops so that those who don't use KDE/GNOME are also able to have access to multimedia? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.3 & kernel 3.18.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-12-21 07:35, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 12/21/2014 03:39 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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"openSUSE 13.1 Multimedia Guide"

That blog has the manual steps, which again, are for KDE/Gnome, but the later is also for xfce/lxde, and you can easily edit out components specific for gnome.

Thank you Carlos but who ever goes to these fora?

Way more people than to the mail lists.

A person starts Firefox and sees the entry "openSUSE" under the URL box; Thinks, "Aha, there could be some documentation on how to have multimedia working" and clicks on the entry -- and Behold! there is shown "openSUSE Documentation"! The person is in raptures - until s/he finds that it is virtually impossible to see anything useful re multimedia except - when by accident, or in a drunken or enraged state - s/he stumbles across the words "opensuse-community.org" and then comes across http://opensuse-community.org/ where the 1-click install appears.

https://en.opensuse.org/Special:Search --> "Multimedia" --> https://en.opensuse.org/Concepts_multimedia --> openSUSE codecs openSUSE-Community.org I don't see the difficulty.

Now, if you want to be really helpful to all those suffering souls who install openSUSE and then have to go thru hell to get their multimedia working why not add there all the hints about what to do when one is not using KDE or Gnome but one of the other DEs? :-)

The community site did have instructions for manual installation on other desktops, I think till 12.3, then it was remade. It is an external site, so you can not complain in a bugzilla. The site doesn't have a link for comments. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2014-12-21 15:14, Basil Chupin wrote:

We seem to be on a different planet......

WHO has put together and maintains the http://opensuse-community.org/ URL which has the 1-click install for KDE and GNOME desktop users?

I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. Not openSUSE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On Friday 19 December 2014 08:49:04 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

On Friday 19 December 2014 08:40:12 Bernhard Voelker wrote:

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zypper reports: File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium \ 'http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/13.2'

... not even the leading "/pub/" exists anymore. Any idea?

Hm, that is really strange, download webpage still shows links from that download area, but /pub/ folder does not exist there...

Any way, unless you have some specific reason not to, I would encourage you to use packman repositories for vlc and all the supporting codecs. I switched to full packman because of some conflicting packages couple of years ago, but had no reason to regret about it ever since.

According to the forum at videolan.org, it seems the webserver has a broken harddisk. This will be fixed next week. BTW, you need videolan if you want libdvdcss2. Regards, Erwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sunday 21 Dec 2014 10:30:03 Erwin Lam wrote:

On Friday 19 December 2014 08:49:04 Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

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On Friday 19 December 2014 08:40:12 Bernhard Voelker wrote:

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zypper reports: File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium \ 'http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/13.2'

... not even the leading "/pub/" exists anymore. Any idea?

Hm, that is really strange, download webpage still shows links from that download area, but /pub/ folder does not exist there...

Any way, unless you have some specific reason not to, I would encourage you to use packman repositories for vlc and all the supporting codecs. I switched to full packman because of some conflicting packages couple of years ago, but had no reason to regret about it ever since.

According to the forum at videolan.org, it seems the webserver has a broken harddisk. This will be fixed next week.

Seems to be back online already. http://download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/Tumbleweed/

BTW, you need videolan if you want libdvdcss2.

Regards, Erwin

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