[opensuse] Future hardware and support.
I debated about posting this here, but decided to do so since there's been a lot of interest in what AMD will do with ATI in regards to Linux. Well, after reading the below referenced article, the question as to AMD's intentions is MUCH, MUCH broader, raises my blood pressure considerably, and leaves me wondering will happen after Jan. and Vista is released. The article is long, but worth the read. Fred http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu December 28 2006 20:19, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I debated about posting this here, but decided to do so since there's been a lot of interest in what AMD will do with ATI in regards to Linux. Well, after reading the below referenced article, the question as to AMD's intentions is MUCH, MUCH broader, raises my blood pressure considerably, and leaves me wondering will happen after Jan. and Vista is released. The article is long, but worth the read.
Fred
IMHO this is the death tome for M$ and hence why they approached Novell to broker a deal. Can you imagine the screams from sys admins and CTO's about having problems getting devices to work, extra licenses for media and playback... I can see it now. Some suit will try to pop a videocd into the comp at a meeting to show the latest marketing campaign, profit/loss report, ad series only to have it rejected by M$' Vista - we want to rule the world - protection schema! This will fly really well in the corporate circles. Talk about exorbinent costs and overhead for an OS. And the end users revolt could be catastrophic - if not outright legendary. What about the anti-trust issues. M$ maybe able to grease a few dozen palms in the U.S. and other places but this will give the E.U. more ammo to further deride M$' anti-competitive pro-monopoly business practices. I bet nVidia will find a fix for this, whether or not AMD/ATi can! This move may have well been done to placate those such as the RIAA and MPAA, as well as M$' own obsession with piracy - but it spells nothing but heartache for a host of devs/OEM's/ISV's and independent hardware vendors. Just imagine all that backstock going fallow because all the OEMs such as Dell and HP pre-install Vista only to hear a torrid amount of service and support calls that amount to little more than - "I'm sorry, you'll have to upgrade your vid or sound card" or "you can't play your dvd unless you use a Licensed player, or "I'm sorry, you can't share your family videos with your cousins or grandchildren unless they're using Vista" - if that works in the first place. DRM and other things like the DMCA are braindead from the start - and the fact that M$ had tied so much of it's future into these sorts of technologies and practices in todays climate is IMHO a sure fire road to ruin. Any takers on how long it will be after the masses get Vista before M$ starts to work on a fix for this (that's if they can fix it in the first place). Not to mention the ire of the blackhatters and their increased efforts to circumvent and foil anything M$? Could indeed be the longest suicide note to date! Cheers, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFlLzR7CQBg4DqqCwRAmgfAJkBhUKOCkHa/SVduycepcqtPEN9FwCfRPOY 9NYxIvmK/rcLCQLQ34z6o2I= =9IQZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday December 29 2006 1:59 am, Curtis Rey wrote:
This move may have well been done to placate those such as the RIAA and MPAA, as well as M$' own obsession with piracy - but it spells nothing but heartache for a host of devs/OEM's/ISV's and independent hardware vendors. Just imagine all that backstock going fallow because all the OEMs such as Dell and HP pre-install Vista only to hear a torrid amount of service and support calls that amount to little more than - "I'm sorry, you'll have to upgrade your vid or sound card" or "you can't play your dvd unless you use a Licensed player, or "I'm sorry, you can't share your family videos with your cousins or grandchildren unless they're using Vista" - if that works in the first place. DRM and other things like the DMCA are braindead from the start - and the fact that M$ had tied so much of it's future into these sorts of technologies and practices in todays climate is IMHO a sure fire road to ruin. Any takers on how long it will be after the masses get Vista before M$ starts to work on a fix for this (that's if they can fix it in the first place). Not to mention the ire of the blackhatters and their increased efforts to circumvent and foil anything M$?
I don't think MickySoft can "back out" all that code quickly! It's embedded deep in the OS and in many different places, affecting a number of their applications as well. I can't belive that Gates is that stupid to want to try and pull this crap off, but Ballmer is an ego maniac - a SUPER SIZED ego maniac who is most likely behind it!
Could indeed be the longest suicide note to date!
One can hope, however, the tenticles of MickySoft are everywhere.....we'll see. Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006-12-28 22:19, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I debated about posting this here, but decided to do so since there's been a lot of interest in what AMD will do with ATI in regards to Linux. Well, after reading the below referenced article, the question as to AMD's intentions is MUCH, MUCH broader, raises my blood pressure considerably, and leaves me wondering will happen after Jan. and Vista is released. The article is long, but worth the read.
Fred
As a physicist, I found Note C. particularly amusing: "In order for content to be displayed to users, it has to be copied numerous times... If you're not versed in DRM doublethink this concept gets quite tricky to explain, but in terms of quantum mechanics the content enters a superposition of simultaneously copied and uncopied states until a user collapses its wave function by observing the content (in physics this is called quantum indeterminacy or the observer's paradox). Depending on whether you follow the Copenhagen or many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, things then either get wierd or very wierd. So in order for Windows Vista's content protection to work, it has to be able to violate the laws of physics and create numerous copies that are simultaneously not copies." -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fredag 29 december 2006 05:19 skrev Fred A. Miller:
I debated about posting this here, but decided to do so since there's been a lot of interest in what AMD will do with ATI in regards to Linux. Well, after reading the below referenced article, the question as to AMD's intentions is MUCH, MUCH broader, raises my blood pressure considerably, and leaves me wondering will happen after Jan. and Vista is released. The article is long, but worth the read.
Fred
Dear Sir and list, I read your article, I'm still in chock! I never ever anticipiated the implications to be this deep and far reaching. My only comfort is that I'm situated within the EU, the commission will NEVER accept this... I actually wish that US citizens had a similar body to restrict what companies can do and what they cannot do. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 10:19 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Fredag 29 december 2006 05:19 skrev Fred A. Miller:
I debated about posting this here, but decided to do so since there's been a lot of interest in what AMD will do with ATI in regards to Linux. Well, after reading the below referenced article, the question as to AMD's intentions is MUCH, MUCH broader, raises my blood pressure considerably, and leaves me wondering will happen after Jan. and Vista is released. The article is long, but worth the read.
Fred
Dear Sir and list,
I read your article, I'm still in chock!
I never ever anticipiated the implications to be this deep and far reaching. My only comfort is that I'm situated within the EU, the commission will NEVER accept this... I actually wish that US citizens had a similar body to restrict what companies can do and what they cannot do.
We did once it is called the Supreme Court but once they ruled that corporations were entitled to the same rights as natural persons and congress gave corporations immortality there was no control outside direct violations of the UCC, contract laws, and criminal activity. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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