Re: [SLE] Photo editing
AMD K2 400 CPU (boxed) 1xDimm 128Mb SDram PC100, 100MHz
I only mentioned the most important features. Anyway, I'm still not too sure about the CPU because I get a lot of different suggestions. Now I do know that lots of RAM is more important then a faster CPU when it comes to photo editing. Those of you who say that the AMD would do just fine make sense but so does John Pennington...
I am skeptical. It depends on the size of your images even more than on your RAM. The uni film scanner does 3k x 2k pixels @ 24 bit, which are fine on a PIII-450 with 100MB RAM and ImageMagick. Fine with gimp as well, but slower. gimp is not made to go easy on resources - esp RAM. It creates *HUMANGOUS* swap files in its temp directory - they can reach 800MB for a net worth of 8MB of image data - and that by just rotating 90 degrees... Basically, gimp is a slowish program unless you're talking eating into memory :-) At least it's not like photoshop on a crapintosh - lose your unsaved data when it tells you out-of-mem when there's 2 x that of the image size left. I'd still be extremely careful comparing gimp to photoshop though... You need sufficient disk space for the gimp swap files, and of course your images. For a 5kx10k monochrome (i.e. 1bit per pixel!) image gimp bombs out stone-dead on above mentioned PIII. For that kind of 512x768 crap you get from a digitised foto lab when you have your film developed any computer will be sufficient. Volker -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
What you DONT want to do is go for a new fast & powerfull CPU and skimp on RAM and storage. 1.Buy as much RAM you can or even better as much as your box can install ;- ) you mention 128mb - maybe try and double it. 2.Get a fast, SCSI hard disk rather than a big EIDE disk. For actually working 2-3 gigs will be fine. storage of files needs extra obviuosly. Ideally use 1 disk for working, 1 for storage. 3.Ok controversy time - if you have masses of RAm and fast SCSI storage, you can relax about the CPU speed. Maybe save some money and get hold of a used higher end box or board. I bet a used 250mhz Pentium is cheaper than a new 500 mhz anything and working with big bitmap files it will be faster than a 500mhz with no ram. 4.Same can apply to the graphics card. A good quality used older board with enough RAM to push about a used 19-20" monitor will be nicer to work with than a new board and a new 17" monitor. 5.beg, steal and borrow. -ve
AMD K2 400 CPU (boxed) 1xDimm 128Mb SDram PC100, 100MHz
I only mentioned the most important features. Anyway, I'm still not too sure about the CPU because I get a lot of different suggestions. Now I do know that lots of RAM is more important then a faster CPU when it comes to photo editing. Those of you who say that the AMD would do just fine make sense but so does John Pennington...
At least it's not like photoshop on a crapintosh - lose your unsaved data when it tells you out-of-mem when there's 2 x that of the image size left. I'd still be extremely careful comparing gimp to photoshop though...
You need sufficient disk space for the gimp swap files, and of course your images. For a 5kx10k monochrome (i.e. 1bit per pixel!) image gimp bombs out stone-dead on above mentioned PIII.
For that kind of 512x768 crap you get from a digitised foto lab when you have your film developed any computer will be sufficient.
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yeah me personally, i would go for a slower cpu as long as i had alot of ram to back it up,and scsi rox also.im using a 17" kds monitor believe it or not the quality is pretty good for a cheaper monitor like this i got it cause of the warranty, which is if anything happens to it in a 3 year time period i just send it back to them and they send me a new one no questions asked. im running a voodoo 3 2000 pci video card and it runs sweet... im running 180 mb of ram: fpu, edo, and sdram mixed and people say you will run slower but hell i dont notice any diffrence, in linux or winders at that..my bios recognises them all seperatly and linux does also. i been running like this for 3 years with no problems what so ever... ve wrote:
What you DONT want to do is go for a new fast & powerfull CPU and skimp on RAM and storage. 1.Buy as much RAM you can or even better as much as your box can install ;- ) you mention 128mb - maybe try and double it. 2.Get a fast, SCSI hard disk rather than a big EIDE disk. For actually working 2-3 gigs will be fine. storage of files needs extra obviuosly. Ideally use 1 disk for working, 1 for storage. 3.Ok controversy time - if you have masses of RAm and fast SCSI storage, you can relax about the CPU speed. Maybe save some money and get hold of a used higher end box or board. I bet a used 250mhz Pentium is cheaper than a new 500 mhz anything and working with big bitmap files it will be faster than a 500mhz with no ram. 4.Same can apply to the graphics card. A good quality used older board with enough RAM to push about a used 19-20" monitor will be nicer to work with than a new board and a new 17" monitor. 5.beg, steal and borrow.
-ve
AMD K2 400 CPU (boxed) 1xDimm 128Mb SDram PC100, 100MHz
I only mentioned the most important features. Anyway, I'm still not too sure about the CPU because I get a lot of different suggestions. Now I do know that lots of RAM is more important then a faster CPU when it comes to photo editing. Those of you who say that the AMD would do just fine make sense but so does John Pennington...
At least it's not like photoshop on a crapintosh - lose your unsaved data when it tells you out-of-mem when there's 2 x that of the image size left. I'd still be extremely careful comparing gimp to photoshop though...
You need sufficient disk space for the gimp swap files, and of course your images. For a 5kx10k monochrome (i.e. 1bit per pixel!) image gimp bombs out stone-dead on above mentioned PIII.
For that kind of 512x768 crap you get from a digitised foto lab when you have your film developed any computer will be sufficient.
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