I have just downloaded kernel 2.5.2 and I need some help installing it. Can anyoane tell me how to install it The long version please --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
On Friday 22 February 2002 1:11 pm, you wrote:
I have just downloaded kernel 2.5.2 and I need some help installing it. Can anyoane tell me how to install it The long version please
If you don't know what to do with it, you definitely don't want it... -- 1:15pm up 9 days, 4:57, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Derek Fountain wrote:
On Friday 22 February 2002 1:11 pm, you wrote:
I have just downloaded kernel 2.5.2 and I need some help installing it. Can anyoane tell me how to install it The long version please
If you don't know what to do with it, you definitely don't want it...
I cannot agree more - what exactly do you need 2.5.2 for? Just for the version number? If you don't even know how to install it, better stick with what you currently have. 2.5 is heavy experimental and not for daily use. I may even eat your data :) Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90429 Nuernberg, Germany What, me ambivalent? Well, yes and no.
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Derek Fountain wrote:
On Friday 22 February 2002 1:52 pm, you wrote:
daily use. I may even eat your data :)
Why might you do that Lenz? :)
Whoops :) Of course I meant "IT may even eat your data!" :) Thanks, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90429 Nuernberg, Germany What, me ambivalent? Well, yes and no.
On Friday 22 February 2002 08:11 am, Calinoiu Alexandru Nicolae wrote:
I have just downloaded kernel 2.5.2 and I need some help installing it.
The 2.5 series, like all odd-numbered series kernels, is *experimental only*, for people who know how to do very difficult kernel debugging and who don't mind loosing data from crashes. If you want the latest usable kernel, try 2.4, which is also being currently developed in parallel with 2.5; getting basically what works in the experimental kernel and elsewhere as it develops.
Can anyoane tell me how to install it
If you need to ask this you shouldn't even be installing 2.4, much less an experimental 2.5 kernel. -- Krogt, n. (chemical symbol: Kr): The metallic silver coating found on fast-food game cards. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets"
ftp to ftp.suse.com and go into this directory.... ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse/i386/update/7.X/kernel Get the rpm's you need in order to update...including the src rpm. You can practice w/ this. Vanilla kernels are just to much trouble unless you really want to patch up the vanilla src. * Peter Akre (pakre@keylabs.com) [020222 10:20]: ->> > Can anyoane tell me how to install it ->> ->> If you need to ask this you shouldn't even be installing 2.4, much less an ->> experimental 2.5 kernel. ->> -- ->If we all had this attitude how would one learn? -> -> ->-- ->To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the ->archives at http://lists.suse.com -> -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -JC
On Friday 22 February 2002 19.50, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
ftp to ftp.suse.com and go into this directory....
ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse/i386/update/7.X/kernel
Get the rpm's you need in order to update...including the src rpm. You can practice w/ this. Vanilla kernels are just to much trouble unless you really want to patch up the vanilla src.
A good way to experiment with compiling kernels is to install the binary rpm first and boot it. Then with the corresponding kernel-source.rpm do a make cloneconfig. That will give you a working configuration where you can make adjustments according to your needs. This is what I do, and it saves me a lot of headaches with the more obscure options. If I don't have a clue what an option means I just leave it alone, since I know that the default suse choice works //Anders
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:18:42AM -0700, Peter Akre wrote:
Can anyoane tell me how to install it
If you need to ask this you shouldn't even be installing 2.4, much less an experimental 2.5 kernel. -- If we all had this attitude how would one learn?
I think the analogy is learn to walk before you try to run. Compiling and installing a development kernel is something kernel developers do. If you want to be kernel developer, great, but maybe you should learn C first, and the GNU tool chain, and have some understanding of how the kernel works first. I think the reply was a correct one. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ wielder of vi(m), an ancient, dangerous and powerful magic free your mind, and your OS will follow
On Friday 22 February 2002 01:18 pm, Peter Akre wrote:
Can anyoane tell me how to install it
If you need to ask this you shouldn't even be installing 2.4, much less an experimental 2.5 kernel. --
If we all had this attitude how would one learn?
If you're running 2.5 you are doing it because you are a kernel developer, and therefore know how to compile a kernel - a prerequisite for a kernel developer by definition. :-) Running 2.5 just to play with it is unwise, several or even most versions of 2.5 corrupt filesystems, have severe and frequent crashes, and so on - it isn't even beta software and won't be what you see in the 2.6 kernel for a couple of years from now; that is if most of it even makes it that far without being ripped out. If you want to play with the latest kernel without knowing how to change it's code (which, again, means you know how to read the docs and compile a kernel), run the latest 2.4.x kernels. They get updated frequently and most of them are reasonably stable on most systems. (Though there was for a little while a filesystem corruption bug in the 2.4.x tree! That however should be the exception rather than the rule.) Incidentally, I run 2.4.16-4GB here, not 2.5.x; even though I can compile kernels. I like to have a resonably stable system that doesn't trash things half the time... I save that kind of behavior for Windows. ;-) -- Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to? -- Clarence Darrow
In this context, I would like to take advantage and ask another question? Does it make sense to compile another kernel in order to speed a web server? The idea something like to specialize the kernel for this kind of task and disable the options for those tasks that are trivial and really do not needed or even more, never used... PD. By the way, do you know a good place of information for this? Thanks in advance! -- mfGeo HOMO GNOSCETE IMPSUM ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
On Friday 22 February 2002 03:59 pm, Wilmer Geovanny wrote:
In this context, I would like to take advantage and ask another question?
Does it make sense to compile another kernel in order to speed a web server?
Perhaps one could tweak a production (i.e. not odd numbered releases like 2.5.x) kernel's drivers in order to have less overhead, disabling support of devices the server isn't using and the like. Keep in mind however that reliability is very important for a web server. Though if you're running something older than 2.4.10 in the 2.4 tree you may want to upgrade to 2.4.10 or 2.4.16 for improvements in VM stability.
PD. By the way, do you know a good place of information for this?
Check the relevant HOWTOs, such as the Linux kernel HOWTO (available both at at Linux Documentation Project websites and as part of SuSE's online documentation), http://www.kernelnewbies.org is also a good site. There's also /usr/src/linux/Documentation. O'Reilly's books on the Linux kernel and writing Linux device drivers are reportedly good too if you want to get into kernel hacking, but may be overkill if you just want to disable a device driver for something that's not on your server and making occasional production kernel upgrades. -- You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
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