On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 08:53 +0200 schrieb LLLActive@GMX.Net:

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Anyone who uses DELL notebooks with OpenSUSE 10.2 successfully?

me. i am using a dell precision m90 notebook. but this is a pretty big and expensive machine. but everything works out of the box.

but i think the precision m65 should also work. best chances are if you choose a notebook with "centrino duo" chipset and nvidia gfx-card. --

Thanx all who responded so far. I have come to the conclusion, based on all the comments you all gave, that the Inspiron 1720 Gold (N0817206B) will be a good system. I still have doubts about the "Intel Next-gen Wireless-n 802.11a/b/g/n Mini Card" in this system. Anyone got one working with OpenSUSE 10.2? Here is the Config: Components Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7100 Processor (1,8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2-Cache) Original Windows Vista™ Home Premium (32 Bit) (will be OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64) 17,0" UltraSharp™ Widescreen WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Display with TrueLife™ 2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2 x 1024] Two SATA-HD (5.400 RPM.) with 240 GB (2 x 120 GB) nVidia® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256 MB dedicated DDR2-Graphic-memory Internal 8x DVD+/-RWwith Software Lithium-Ion-Cells with 9 cells at 85 Watt-hour Accessories Intel® Wireless-N-Mini-card new Generation - Europa Does it work with OpenSUSE 10.2? Microsoft® Works 8.5 (ha-ha, OOo 2.2) Services und Software 3 Year Hardware-Support Type: 1720 Gold N0817206B Inspiron It costs about 1700 Euro in Germany when ordered online. I always get a telephonic quote, which is mostly a little cheaper. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 22/08/07, Michel Salim wrote:

On 14/08/07, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

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Components

Intel(r) Core™ 2 Duo T7100 Processor (1,8 GHz, 800 MHz, 2 MB L2-Cache)

Original Windows Vista™ Home Premium (32 Bit) (will be OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64) 17,0" UltraSharp™ Widescreen WUXGA (1920 x 1200) Display with TrueLife™

2048 MB 667 MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2 x 1024]

Two SATA-HD (5.400 RPM.) with 240 GB (2 x 120 GB)

*TWO* hard drives! Whoa.

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nVidia(r) GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256 MB dedicated DDR2-Graphic-memory

Internal 8x DVD+/-RWwith Software

Lithium-Ion-Cells with 9 cells at 85 Watt-hour

Accessories Intel(r) Wireless-N-Mini-card new Generation - Europa Does it work with OpenSUSE 10.2? Mm. That might require you installing a new kernel, since (AFAIK) the Intel drivers target the new wireless infrastructure that is only present in 2.6.22 and up. I might be mistaken about the exact kernel revision.

Correction: works fine with 2.6.18 (which is in openSUSE 10.2) and up: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi (see the link to the HOWTO-mac80211 page) -- Michel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 14:43 +0200, Matthias Titeux wrote:

Dell inspiron 6400 (core 2 duo, Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go) with opensuse 10.2.

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

best chances are if you choose a notebook with "centrino duo" chipset and nvidia gfx-card.

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 08:30 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:

At work we use Dell, never had a problem with them regardless of OS, OpenSUSE works 100%.

Hi Matthias, Rainer and Matthew! The Inspiron 6400 is exactly the one I am looking at. For my needs it seems to have all I need. What is great with these mailing lists, is that users can check with others who's gone through the testing of the hardware for OpenSUSE; saving many the risk of buying something that may not work ... Thanx all ... I must now just convince my financial manager to buy it. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

but not as new computer any more. current inspiron 6400s have a pentium processor, NOT a core duo!

but maybe you are lucky and dell is still selling the 6400s with core 2 duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go in your country.

or maybe the new Vostro 1400 or 1500 are what you are looking for.

and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your country....

I still can buy it in Germany. Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is): http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=de&cs=debsdt1&kc=NRS64002&l=de&oc=N07642XP&rbc=N07642XP&s=bsd Anyone got experience with the Vostro's? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 09:53 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

Am Mittwoch, den 01.08.2007, 18:33 +0200 schrieb LLLActive@GMX.Net:

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On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

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and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your country....

I still can buy it in Germany. Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):

http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=de&cs=debsdt1&kc=NRS64002&l=de&oc=N07642XP&rbc=N07642XP&s=bsd

no problem, since i am from austria i am able to understand german ;-)

but the link you gave brought me to the same configurator like the austrian-dell-page. and you can see at the top, that the cpu you can select is only a Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 or a T2130. both are NO core 2 duo. i would not recommend to buy such a Pentium® Dual-Core. --

You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah). "Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah", (and all else before?). So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 05:37 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

2007/8/3, LLLActive@GMX.Net :

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You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).

"Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah", (and all else before?).

So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

:-) Al

My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse 10.2@x86_64

Ciro

Now I am flabbergasted! On which CPU's does OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 then run? On my normal X86_64 Athlon PC, OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 runs, but on a x86 it won't/can't install (understandably). Does it mean that if OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64 installs that the x86-64 implementation works on the Inspiron 6400's Yonah? :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 which was running SuSE 9.2 Professional and was upgraded to openSuSE 10.2 recently. I've not had any issues with anything. WHat is more odd, is that Windows XP which originally shipped with the laptop would not recognize the video card when reinstalled, and so the laptop was shifted to Linux, which suits me just fine. Kevin On Friday 03 August 2007 05:37, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

2007/8/3, LLLActive@GMX.Net :

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You have a point there. I have done some reading about the Intel versions of their CPU's. If all is true what is written in the WikiPedia, that only the "Intel Core 2 brand refers to CPUs with the 64-bit Core microarchitecture". All else is 32 Bit. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core#Yonah).

"Intel 64 (Intel's x86-64 implementation) is not supported by Yonah", (and all else before?).

So only OpenSUSE 10.2 32 Bit works on these notebooks, but that x86_64 should only run on the Intel Core 2. Does it run OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

Perhaps I should rather look at an AMD Athlon/Turon 64 X2 Mobile system like the Inspiron 1501. Anyone got one running OpenSUSE 10.2 X86_64?

:-)

Al

My Inspiron 6400 is running Opensuse 10.2@x86_64

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On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 11:55 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

intel-based notebooks with the "centrino duo" logo are supported MUCH BETTER by opensuse10.2. with these machines nearly EVERY hardware on it (bluetooth, wlan, sd-card) will work out-off-the-box. and today core 2 duos are much faster than Turion 64 X2. both can run opensuse10.2 64bit. both cost about the same. but core 2 duos are faster, and centrino notebooks work better.

This is good info. It answers my comment to Ciro. Back to configuring a core 2 duo with the Dell on-line store! Ordering by phone saves a little cash as well. :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 02/08/07, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 17:38 +0200, Rainer Klier wrote:

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but not as new computer any more. current inspiron 6400s have a pentium processor, NOT a core duo!

but maybe you are lucky and dell is still selling the 6400s with core 2 duo and Nvidia Geforce 7300 Go in your country.

or maybe the new Vostro 1400 or 1500 are what you are looking for.

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and before, check if the "good" 6400s are still sold by dell in your country....

I still can buy it in Germany. Look at this: (German I am afraid, but you can make out what it all is):

One alternative would be to look at http://linux.dell.com/ and make sure that whatever you order is similar in configuration to the computers that Dell ships with Ubuntu. I believe Dell has repositories with drivers, etc. for other Linux distributions as well (probably for the modem, etc.). The only major difference is that sometimes the Windows variant of a model comes with an ATi video card, vs. nVidia for the Linux version. Unless you need good 3D graphics, for business use I'd probably just get the Intel GMA3100 anyway. Is your budget pre- or post-VAT? The Latitude D630 starts at under $900 in the USA market. Regards, -- Michel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

(BL) - Before Linux Every one who has replied is quite correct in my experience in that the suggestions lead towards very new components. The best thought I have read was to think about purchasing a Dell unit that can be shipped in a Linux Distro. This has not always been the case and If you were thinking about purchasing a desktop I would exercise great caution. 2 years ago, in an effort to minimise costs, I ordered 4 New Desktops. 4 x Dimension 4700 which all ran Windows XP SP2 without issue until 1 of the units required a format and reinstall. After loading XP, the network card driver was absent and the video had issues maintaining a resolution greater than 800x600 and I called Dell. I was told to I would have to load various drivers from the utils CD or get the drivers from the Internet. Without the NIC being identified and if I had lost the Utils CD I would have been stuffed If I was a home user with only 1 PC.

From the CD the following drivers needed to be loaded in this order.

1 x Chipset driver 1 x Video driver 1 x Audio Driver 1 x NIC driver Dell DO NOT publish their driver specific drivers to MS so there are never any drivers obtained from MS online update unlike just about every other major brand. The dell website is huge, carrying with it every driver that is required and invariable they are NOT signed by MS. You can see chat I mean by looking at http://support.ap.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=DIM_P4_4700&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid= This is all done to cut costs. I suppose the most important issue I have gained when any other business asks my opinion is to check the dell website for the driver support which may either delight you or put you off. Scott Ciro Iriarte wrote:

2007/8/1, Ciro Iriarte :

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Hi, I'm running Opensuse 10.2 on a Dell Inspiron 6400, just some notes:

- Intel 945GM Graphic Card: Works fine, but couldn't make the S-Video output work. - Ricoh Memory Card reader: It's detected but didn't use it yet. - Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG: Works out of the box -- At the office works flawlessly with WPA with high and light load (D-Link AP) -- At home I have many troubles with a Linksys WRT54GX4 AP and WPA, it drops the connection when there's high load (many "TKIP: ICV error detected" messages with light load too). A windows laptop with the same card works fine only after updating to the last driver, maybe with the latest module for linux it works better. - Modem (don't know the make/model): Works with linuxant (comercial driver) - Firewire: Didn't try it yet

Ciro

One more note, i can suspend it, but it just resumes when it wants to, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't....

Ciro