Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance! -- ing.Adrian Costescu PGP: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE4506831
On Friday 06 February 2004 23.03, Adrian Costescu wrote:
Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance!
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't want the local desktop user to know you're spying on him?
On Saturday 07 February 2004 05:24, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 06 February 2004 23.03, Adrian Costescu wrote:
Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance!
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't want the local desktop user to know you're spying on him? Yes! There is!
-- ing.Adrian Costescu PGP: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE4506831
On Saturday 07 February 2004 07:14, Adrian Costescu wrote:
On Saturday 07 February 2004 05:24, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 06 February 2004 23.03, Adrian Costescu wrote:
Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance!
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't want the local desktop user to know you're spying on him?
Yes! There is!
When posting from a country with the history your's has exhibited, and which apparently has very lax privacy laws, you should not expect too many people rushing to help you. This is sort of repugnant to most people who are in the free software arena. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 04:12, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 07 February 2004 07:14, Adrian Costescu wrote:
On Saturday 07 February 2004 05:24, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 06 February 2004 23.03, Adrian Costescu wrote:
Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance!
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't want the local desktop user to know you're spying on him?
Yes! There is!
When posting from a country with the history your's has exhibited, and which apparently has very lax privacy laws, you should not expect too many people rushing to help you. This is sort of repugnant to most people who are in the free software arena.
-- Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't help a suse user who lives in a country like Romania, just because of that fact? Do you think it's all right to discriminate people based on their country of origin? Or, just based on the country's _history_, if that's any better? Or, last but not least, based just on the domain name suffix, for the matter of fact.
You know that the .ro extension in the domain name does not mean that the user is Romanian, don't you? How about the domain like "homeip.net", for example? What country is that, and what kind of history has it exhibited? I don't know about privacy laws in Romania, but am an expert in history (I read magazines and watch TV). I remember all the horror stories about Romanian terror against native Indian tribes and about enslaving African Negro people in the past and keeping them in ghettos in present. Also, this terrible Romanian intervention in the Middle East that happened recently with such an untrue excuse. Sure, all this is not a kind of history to be proud of, but I don't think the particular guy really has anything to do with it. He just asked something about VNC as far as I understand. And this *is* a kind of list for asking such kind of questions. I think you should apologise to this Romanian guy, really. And, people, please - stop things like these on this list - forever. Sorry for the irony, but I couldn't resist. I'll shut up now. Best regards, cikasole
_____________________________________ John Andersen
On Monday 09 February 2004 11.54, Radule Soskic wrote:
He just asked something about VNC as far as I understand. And this *is* a kind of list for asking such kind of questions.
He asked about how to be able to spy on the local user without alerting the user to that fact. And I, for one, won't answer that type of question without given a very good reason for it.
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 05:54, Radule Soskic wrote:
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't help a suse user who lives in a country like Romania, just because of that fact? Do you think it's all right to discriminate people based on their country of origin? Or, just based on the country's _history_, if that's any better? Or, last but not least, based just on the domain name suffix, for the matter of fact.
You know that the .ro extension in the domain name does not mean that the user is Romanian, don't you? How about the domain like "homeip.net", for example? What country is that, and what kind of history has it exhibited?
I don't know about privacy laws in Romania, but am an expert in history (I read magazines and watch TV). I remember all the horror stories about Romanian terror against native Indian tribes and about enslaving African Negro people in the past and keeping them in ghettos in present. Also, this terrible Romanian intervention in the Middle East that happened recently with such an untrue excuse.
Sure, all this is not a kind of history to be proud of, but I don't think the particular guy really has anything to do with it. He just asked something about VNC as far as I understand. And this *is* a kind of list for asking such kind of questions.
I think you should apologise to this Romanian guy, really. And, people, please - stop things like these on this list - forever.
Sorry for the irony, but I couldn't resist. I'll shut up now.
Best regards,
cikasole
This was not aimed at this particular user but all users. This list, I believe, does not believe in helping potential wrong doing, such as helping break into computers or spying on other people. We are here to help -anyone- with legitimate problems and do a reasonably good job at it. Helping someone to spy on someone else or helping someone to break into another computer does not fall into that area. Had the person provided a reason for doing so he may have received a more helpful response. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 12:53, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 05:54, Radule Soskic wrote:
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't help a suse user who lives in a country like Romania, just because of that fact? Do you think it's all right to discriminate people based on their country of origin? Or, just based on the country's _history_, if that's any better? Or, last but not least, based just on the domain name suffix, for the matter of fact.
You know that the .ro extension in the domain name does not mean that the user is Romanian, don't you? How about the domain like "homeip.net", for example? What country is that, and what kind of history has it exhibited?
I don't know about privacy laws in Romania, but am an expert in history (I read magazines and watch TV). I remember all the horror stories about Romanian terror against native Indian tribes and about enslaving African Negro people in the past and keeping them in ghettos in present. Also, this terrible Romanian intervention in the Middle East that happened recently with such an untrue excuse.
Sure, all this is not a kind of history to be proud of, but I don't think the particular guy really has anything to do with it. He just asked something about VNC as far as I understand. And this *is* a kind of list for asking such kind of questions.
I think you should apologise to this Romanian guy, really. And, people, please - stop things like these on this list - forever.
Sorry for the irony, but I couldn't resist. I'll shut up now.
Best regards,
cikasole
This was not aimed at this particular user but all users. This list, I believe, does not believe in helping potential wrong doing, such as helping break into computers or spying on other people.
We are here to help -anyone- with legitimate problems and do a reasonably good job at it. Helping someone to spy on someone else or helping someone to break into another computer does not fall into that area.
Had the person provided a reason for doing so he may have received a more helpful response.
-- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
OK, my point was not on legitimacy of this guy's question. It was more on the fact that the guy's country, the country's history and the country' privacy laws were used in argument, even though they are _not_ of any relevance for the issue. I might be too sensitive, but taking the origin of a list user just to support the explanation for not helping him seemed like worth of reply. Sorry for bandwidth waste. Best regards, cikasole
On Monday 09 February 2004 01:54, Radule Soskic wrote:
Is there a legitimate reason why you wouldn't help a suse user who lives in a country like Romania, just because of that fact? Do you think it's all right to discriminate people based on their country of origin? Or, just based on the country's _history_, if that's any better? Or, last but not least, based just on the domain name suffix, for the matter of fact.
His ip traced to Romainia. I paid no attention to his domain name. Apparently you lept to that conclusion, but not I.
You know that the .ro extension in the domain name does not mean that the user is Romanian, don't you? How about the domain like "homeip.net", for example? What country is that, and what kind of history has it exhibited?
I think you should apologise to this Romanian guy, really. And, people, please - stop things like these on this list - forever.
Grow up. How ELSE do you educate people that it is NOT ok to set up systems for clandestine spying on computer users. It's morally repugnant, dishonest and (in many countries) totally illegal. Your defense of that practice is shocking. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Adrian Costescu wrote:
Hi all! is there a way to make my remote desktop connection invisible for the person on the remote desktop? i am using SuSE 9.0 PRo on both systems! i am tunneling my connection through ssh...and everithig works perfect ... but when i connect a small eye apears on remote desktop announcing a remote connection.. :( so... i have to remove system tray applet ... but i wonder is there another way to acomplish my goal? many thanks in advance!
By chance, I have read the posting from the asian subscriber, then I went and read the whole stealth VNC & ethics thread. So, I'm Romanian and strongly disagree with the stealth VNC shite. Actually I had a long argument with the employer at my previous job when the boss insisted on me installing VNC on some PCs with the purpose of surprising them playing games and chatting online. It was regular, non-stealth VNC (users could see the connection), but nonetheless, I resisted heroically and had to capitulate in the end. Anyway, the VNC issue died down and wasn't used much, if at all, because the problems were solved by other means, Real World means. It was a company where a lot o people were working lots of overtime hours, and were called to work on weekends. Not a Romanian owned company, BTW, it was a branch of a larger Greek one. So, in my opinion, there should _not_ be any Stealth VNC.
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