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Doug McGarrett

14 Nov 2020 14 Nov '20

22:39

I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug

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Knurpht-openSUSE

14 Nov 14 Nov

23:13

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org

Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team

Doug McGarrett

15 Nov 15 Nov

03:39

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 11/14/20 6:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype

Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in

Thank you, Knurpht! I'll have to set up a couple of contacts with some of my family members. I'm sure my daughter is set up for video. When you mentioned "Microsoft credentials," are you referring to my M/S password, or something else? (Yes, the machine came with Windows 10 and I have my name and a M/S password, altho I'm not sure that they use the p/w any more--lately they seem to want a PIN, which I gave them. ) Maybe my daughter is already using Skype and she knows, but if not, you seem to. (She's probably using zoom, for business.) --doug

Carlos E. R.

11:52

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 15/11/2020 04.39, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 11/14/20 6:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype

Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in

Thank you, Knurpht! I'll have to set up a couple of contacts with some of my family members. I'm sure my daughter is set up for video. When you mentioned "Microsoft credentials," are you referring to my M/S password, or something else? (Yes, the machine came with Windows 10 and I have my name and a M/S password, altho I'm not sure that they use the p/w any more--lately they seem to want a PIN, which I gave them. ) Maybe my daughter is already using Skype and she knows, but if not, you seem to. (She's probably using zoom, for business.)

Skype belongs to microsoft, and you need a login to Skype, which can be a microsoft account, I guess. I don't know, my login is older than the purchase. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett

16:21

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 11/14/20 10:39 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 11/14/20 6:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype

Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in

Thank you, Knurpht! I'll have to set up a couple of contacts with some of my family members. I'm sure my daughter is set up for video. When you mentioned "Microsoft credentials," are you referring to my M/S password, or something else? (Yes, the machine came with Windows 10 and I have my name and a M/S password, altho I'm not sure that they use the p/w any more--lately they seem to want a PIN, which I gave them. ) Maybe my daughter is already using Skype and she knows, but if not, you seem to. (She's probably using zoom, for business.) --doug

Answering myself: When I started up the app, I was presented with information from Microsoft that allows me to get the app going. It's quite clear. Altho I disagree with the constant imposition of passwords on everything one wishes to do on the computer, this is just another round of the same damn thing. And I really can't blame M/S for it-- it's endemic. --doug

James Knott

16:35

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 2020-11-15 11:21 a.m., Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Answering myself: When I started up the app, I was presented with information from Microsoft that allows me to get the app going. It's quite clear. Altho I disagree with the constant imposition of passwords on everything one wishes to do on the computer, this is just another round of the same damn thing. And I really can't blame M/S for it-- it's endemic.

In this case though, it's about controlling access to your Skype account. Do you really want anyone to be able to access it, without a password?

Knurpht-openSUSE

16:54

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

Op zondag 15 november 2020 17:21:09 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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On 11/14/20 10:39 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 11/14/20 6:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org

Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype

Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in

Thank you, Knurpht! I'll have to set up a couple of contacts with some of my family members. I'm sure my daughter is set up for video. When you mentioned "Microsoft credentials," are you referring to my M/S password, or something else? (Yes, the machine came with Windows 10 and I have my name and a M/S password, altho I'm not sure that they use the p/w any more--lately they seem to want a PIN, which I gave them. ) Maybe my daughter is already using Skype and she knows, but if not, you seem to. (She's probably using zoom, for business.) --doug

Answering myself: When I started up the app, I was presented with information from Microsoft that allows me to get the app going. It's quite clear. Altho I disagree with the constant imposition of passwords on everything one wishes to do on the computer, this is just another round of the same damn thing. And I really can't blame M/S for it-- it's endemic.

This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe? -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team

Patrick Shanahan

17:06

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* Knurpht-openSUSE [01-01-70 12:34]: ... much trimmed ...

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This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe?

now, that is definitely an oxymoron, mentioning M$ and "safe" in the same post. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode

Knurpht-openSUSE

17:18

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Op zondag 15 november 2020 18:06:04 CET schreef Patrick Shanahan:

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* Knurpht-openSUSE [01-01-70 12:34]: ... much trimmed ...

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This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe?

now, that is definitely an oxymoron, mentioning M$ and "safe" in the same post. Thank you for your useful comment. Very much appreciated.

-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team

Patrick Shanahan

17:25

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* Knurpht-openSUSE [11-15-20 12:21]:

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Op zondag 15 november 2020 18:06:04 CET schreef Patrick Shanahan:

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* Knurpht-openSUSE [01-01-70 12:34]: ... much trimmed ...

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This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe?

now, that is definitely an oxymoron, mentioning M$ and "safe" in the same post. Thank you for your useful comment. Very much appreciated.

you are very welcome. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode

James Knott

18:01

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 2020-11-15 12:06 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Knurpht-openSUSE [01-01-70 12:34]: ... much trimmed ...

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This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe? now, that is definitely an oxymoron, mentioning M$ and "safe" in the same post.

That's a general thing. You have the same on Google Meet. On the other hand, Jitsi, doesn't require an account, but there's nothing tying it to anyone. Skype can also be used for phone calls, including paid for long distance.

Carlos E. R.

17:37

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On 15/11/2020 17.54, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op zondag 15 november 2020 17:21:09 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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On 11/14/20 10:39 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Answering myself: When I started up the app, I was presented with information from Microsoft that allows me to get the app going. It's quite clear. Altho I disagree with the constant imposition of passwords on everything one wishes to do on the computer, this is just another round of the same damn thing. And I really can't blame M/S for it-- it's endemic.

This is not something you 'do on the computer', you are doing things on MSs computers that allows communication from your computer ( you call some one ) through MSs Skype servers ( that know how to reach your contacts and search others ) to others' computers ( they answer your call ). Without proper authentication ( credentials, verification emails etc ), how could this ever be safe?

And this account can hold money. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

David C. Rankin

16 Nov 16 Nov

00:21

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 11/14/20 5:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in

That just seems wrong..... (technically correct) .. but wrong... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Doug McGarrett

00:33

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 11/15/20 7:21 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 11/14/20 5:13 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Enter your Microsoft credentials and you're in That just seems wrong..... (technically correct) .. but wrong...

Well, they DO own it. . . .

Mathias Homann

06:11

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

Am Sonntag, 15. November 2020, 00:13:37 CET schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op zaterdag 14 november 2020 23:39:43 CET schreef Doug McGarrett:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug _______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org

Here you go: As your user !!! sudo zypper addrepo https://repo.skype.com/rpm/stable/skype-stable.repo sudo zypper update sudo zypper install skypeforlinux skype

Just as you posted this my wife reconnected to someone via skype so I thought I'll have a look, so I followed these instructions. Installation worked, and installed only one package and no "weird" dependencies to god knows what. Skype started, I could even log in. But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word... So ... there's actually no one on skype that I can't talk to with something else. zypper rm -u skypeforlinux. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102

Bengt Gördén

09:24

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 2020-11-16 07:11, Mathias Homann wrote:

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And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

Maybe not the page you got but there's plenty of pages that mention linux at skype.com. for instance: https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/ https://support.skype.com/en/faq/fa10328/what-are-the-system-requirements-fo... https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12041/what-is-the-latest-version-of-skype... Anyway. skypeforlinux is essential a specialized browser (node.js and electron), just as Signal, Slack etc. and a lot of other apps [1]. Skype has a browser version that is more or less the same as the electron/node.js version that you can visit. You can run it in your chromium based browser on this link [2]. I use Brave as my goto browser and it works fine here. I do have skypeforlinux and it also works fine on my opensuse TW. ref. [1] https://www.electronjs.org/apps [2] https://web.skype.com/ -- /bengan

James Knott

13:33

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On 2020-11-16 1:11 a.m., Mathias Homann wrote:

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Just as you posted this my wife reconnected to someone via skype so I thought I'll have a look, so I followed these instructions.

Installation worked, and installed only one package and no "weird" dependencies to god knows what. Skype started, I could even log in.

But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

So ... there's actually no one on skype that I can't talk to with something else. zypper rm -u skypeforlinux.

Are you aware you only need a browser, with Skype for Web? No need to install anything. https://www.skype.com/en/blogs/2019-03-skype-online/

Per Jessen

17:00

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Mathias Homann wrote:

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Just as you posted this my wife reconnected to someone via skype so I thought I'll have a look, so I followed these instructions.

Installation worked, and installed only one package and no "weird" dependencies to god knows what. Skype started, I could even log in.

But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio?

ISTR running into the very same when I played with Skype a few months back - AFAIR, it was to do with my stero microphone. With pavucontrol it was easily solved. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland.

Vojtěch Zeisek

17:23

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Dne pondělí 16. listopadu 2020 7:11:54 CET, Mathias Homann napsal(a):

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But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

Recently my MS Skype wasn't able to detect any audio/video device if it started after MS Teams. I don't try to understand. Sometimes dark magic is obviously involved... -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/

Chris Coutinho

18:32

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 18:23 +0100, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

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Dne pondělí 16. listopadu 2020 7:11:54 CET, Mathias Homann napsal(a):

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But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

Recently my MS Skype wasn't able to detect any audio/video device if it started after MS Teams. I don't try to understand. Sometimes dark magic is obviously involved...

_______________________________________________ openSUSE Users mailing list -- users@lists.opensuse.org To unsubscribe, email users-leave@lists.opensuse.org List Netiquette: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette List Archives: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org

I think it's probably because MS Teams shares parts of the same backend as Skype. I can see in my sound settings that MS Teams is registered as Skype, and maybe you're suffering from some unintended overlap https://paste.opensuse.org/41678304 Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEss2dENO/PTuA9NTTOdNgxkl4+QMFAl+yxbwACgkQOdNgxkl4 +QOsZw/+MdKnbTcBO86BRj8rucFOdQ9gNXmiP+6prdrQmXMuKRmgin00ef2Pf49H 4ldHXnizrThKqQEXp7nlcQ5tbLG3kW7Wwze8clC5nKOScgjuX4qSutapKo2Zta/C N07zCJ05P79hKdV35wJTzLPsly6SmkDfN4h6coCCaV6X9ObR79hBJlirr+tAFR7M lu79TTNHhMnFt+XEBwMNDcd4OYtGAZDI03XbRTG2rXRfajv+yFdvORYBXGBI2+rH dwwenmppq5nfdic3IjJCvY/8KFKIJmAE8ZuCX8HN+37TKw6WrdRULSeTOKqDqO4q 2sdesANxKd17lMrYwxdfDIs8wg7dYXMYpObi4KmJi5ZV01ELLrp7OvmTcovYEiyG vg6CaKeVgWvl/n1m2H5A9SVlPeYAHaa7jE1gfcKhkIv0Xf/nQLb88+wldMpk6pwC TJ7sZPZgwTYexHQ2b0xduLvfR8d15nbm9sIOeSJcJ2WEminhzDYPQ25bvSDfQdy9 uFva9cXWZpUoZ2UAT1AxDjsUIgwyR4GHOs/7YuD8v0EBPvHGQC+qjpNZCDdd2c4u EHDvg6BthqgvOLllH3Rjn4ztOJ89RDUUy9SqI9m+NSeT39o6pAyeJ5gzkEOQdONj A7HlpiuNMtdoe2B2uH63Y1oa29HW4iQITT/u0nff86ZZQv3CnII= =9+2Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Knurpht-openSUSE

18:57

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Op maandag 16 november 2020 18:23:09 CET schreef Vojtěch Zeisek:

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Dne pondělí 16. listopadu 2020 7:11:54 CET, Mathias Homann napsal(a):

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But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

Recently my MS Skype wasn't able to detect any audio/video device if it started after MS Teams. I don't try to understand. Sometimes dark magic is obviously involved... I think they are both grabbing the same devices

-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team

Vojtěch Zeisek

17 Nov 17 Nov

12:37

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

Dne pondělí 16. listopadu 2020 19:57:17 CET, Knurpht-openSUSE napsal(a):

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Op maandag 16 november 2020 18:23:09 CET schreef Vojtěch Zeisek:

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Dne pondělí 16. listopadu 2020 7:11:54 CET, Mathias Homann napsal(a):

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But: skype didn't detect any video or audio devices at all. Video would be correct since my desktop doesn't have a camera, but no audio? And the webpage at microsoft that you get taken to doesn't mention linux with one word...

Recently my MS Skype wasn't able to detect any audio/video device if it started after MS Teams. I don't try to understand. Sometimes dark magic is obviously involved...

I think they are both grabbing the same devices

Well... Zoom and Yakyak (Hangouts client) are also using the same devices, but they can easily coexist. Of course I don't call on all of them in the same time, but the others correctly detect available devices and when I need them, I can readily use them, just if I start Teams earlier than Skype, Skype doesn't detect any audio/video device despite it's present and correctly recognized by the others. No surprise both Skype and Teams are developed by Microsoft? :-) -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/ Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/

James Knott

14:03

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On 2020-11-17 7:37 a.m., Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:

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I think they are both grabbing the same devices Well... Zoom and Yakyak (Hangouts client) are also using the same devices, but they can easily coexist. Of course I don't call on all of them in the same time, but the others correctly detect available devices and when I need them, I can readily use them, just if I start Teams earlier than Skype, Skype doesn't detect any audio/video device despite it's present and correctly recognized by the others. No surprise both Skype and Teams are developed by Microsoft?:-)

FWIW, I have a chat with some friends every week, using Jitsi. One friend frequently had problems with no video. It turns out, the problem only happened, if he used facial recognition in Windows 10 to log in to his computer. So this sort of problem isn't unique to Skype & Teams.

Roger Oberholtzer

16 Nov 16 Nov

08:06

New subject: [opensuse] Re: skype

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 12:00 AM Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I'd appreciate directions to install skype on TW. Thanx! --doug

I know this is a slightly different answer, but you can also install Teams: https://packages.microsoft.com/yumrepos/ms-teams/ MS are phasing out Skype. It is being replaced by Teams. Or at least Skype for Business is going away. I can say that Teams on openSUSE has worked very well. Meetings with people in Sweden, Norway and India have worked without a hitch. Sharing desktops as well. I see no functional difference between Teams on Linux and on Windows. YMMV. But it has been working great for me. And, it installs via a proper repository that you can set up in openSUSE. I work in a Windows-centric organization. So I am forced to know these things. Don't blame me! I do everything I can to remain using my Tumbleweed desktop at work. With the exception of our company's brain-dead accounting system, I have been able to do so. -- Roger Oberholtzer

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