[opensuse] Anyone in Xemacs interested?
Hi, as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like to drop it. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr
Hello, On Thu, 08 Nov 2018, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like to drop it.
Yes. -dnh -- Cats give a whole new meaning to the phrase "fuzzy logic". -- Seanette Blaylock, in nanae -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/11/2018 10:36, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
Hi,
as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like t o drop it.
Seconded. Even jwz doesn't use it any more, AFAIK. - -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, K?ižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEeNZxWlZYyNg7I0pvkm4MJhv0VBYFAlvkE1cACgkQkm4MJhv0 VBYv2g/+JbckNUwTLWv6/18qkuEOikhTu/LI8G5EjEdTvQ/E0wKjC/+e1qomRjFs 7iIMMM5oCBx+KjtYnB4+G0J/szj4/fgCxvRhPlLLQqQgS5AXZXHm/mmNnD7Kudzu R7oD62Z6rdjy5qeQ4upo90bx0aLQohBbev97n3dh1oVAFOtxudYWmFV7hXkwGJFB TRuD+LDJk6ivgWRGo0eBKdq3DJC9scl2QR7YL6luGh2OE2oFPd5eEZZlwMrky/tL PqGNYRqPhQYwuvRYecwtEuoxu8mcjBStfHymyQeQRvUNmsbenS/h4tc9IHyQeal1 z3jPsf22fFLwwClZcDSiFnQE7539vbcLd7JjfJBbhxbpBVd5RK3uciodOssMvf2m HKM1Mpr0gtbiK0w/YwdhJz1V+AKyTs6w3rEQYbq/7j9tXt6sisoQbM2B2Vz3Hbb/ D+B4oMdAJQz/1tyaQybmrI0uAH8NmXKObxCGG3NRMpTLUiXZ6k1hX7yBVKdtH5GZ E5JSjGyQ0DJaVOCF8WTDKzD5awj6V1WEpkOQu1yMm20N4vYg+3iCl/HlsjY7bT6B S4PAykZ4sI7m5UpPcZS8tTuwoYfHIEbioLJVcbjtD0NS3OD7gjZIRO8fgx5M3VIg 3b1AGA1D3cOqn2poB7EdiL4pSqH56jgnJYEd4pJMIHmEag+cI9I= =/+35 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I've been working with unix and linux since the second half of the eighties (ok not linux obviously), and I haven't used (x)emacs one single time. drop it. cheers MH Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2018, 11:43:35 CET schrieb Liam Proven:
On 08/11/2018 10:36, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
Hi,
as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like t
o
drop it.
Seconded. Even jwz doesn't use it any more, AFAIK.
-- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, K?ižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084
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On 08/11/18 07:35 AM, Mathias Homann wrote:
I've been working with unix and linux since the second half of the eighties (ok not linux obviously), and I haven't used (x)emacs one single time.
drop it.
I recall hearing "eight megabytes and constantly swapping" at the start of the eighties. PLONK! -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 08/11/18 07:35 AM, Mathias Homann wrote:
I've been working with unix and linux since the second half of the eighties (ok not linux obviously), and I haven't used (x)emacs one single time.
drop it.
I recall hearing "eight megabytes and constantly swapping" at the start of the eighties.
Hehe, remember that one, too. And at that time that was a LOT. My first Linux machine had 16MB, and that was sort-of above standard because I wanted to run X. Nowadays, find a program that only uses 8MB. A 'Hello World' maybe? ;^> and sorry for OT As for the topic itself: I'm emacs user since the early 90s. But since the main emacs paxkage has good X support I've never installed/used Xemacs again. So also no objection from my side. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/08/2018 01:36 AM, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
Hi,
as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like to drop it.
Werner
Well I am on the opposite of this fence, I use xemacs all the time, my fingers are trained to it and I really like the powerful macro capabilities.. Yes I do wish it had better support but I would vote to keep it... Sigh... sounds like I am getting too old and probably going to miss a favorite tool if it gets dropped.... Marc.. -- Linux Counter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Don't use it but use to be the solaris package maintainer for OpenCSW
a couple of lives ago.
Someone should just copypac it into the "editors" project, it doesn't
exist there for some reason, then you can add that repo and continue
to Meta-Key yourself to death as long as it builds on the current
platforms.
--
Later,
Darin
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Marc Chamberlin
On 11/08/2018 01:36 AM, Dr. Werner Fink wrote:
Hi,
as Xemacs do not get into a final version for several years I'd like to drop it.
Werner
Well I am on the opposite of this fence, I use xemacs all the time, my fingers are trained to it and I really like the powerful macro capabilities.. Yes I do wish it had better support but I would vote to keep it... Sigh... sounds like I am getting too old and probably going to miss a favorite tool if it gets dropped....
Marc..
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On 10/11/2018 03:08, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Well I am on the opposite of this fence, I use xemacs all the time, my fingers are trained to it and I really like the powerful macro capabilities.. Yes I do wish it had better support but I would vote to keep it... Sigh... sounds like I am getting too old and probably going to miss a favorite tool if it gets dropped....
GNU Emacs is 100% as powerful, has better Unicode support, the same macro language (eLisp) etc. XEmacs is a competing fork of Emacs. It is *not* the X.11 version of Emacs. https://www.xemacs.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEmacs Are you actually using XEmacs, or just normal default GNU Emacs under X? If the latter, you're fine. If the former, I suggest you try GNU Emacs and see. If your macros etc. come across fine, then you will get the benefit of 5+ more years of development, current patches, etc. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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