On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 10:08:16AM +0200, Ben wrote:

Op donderdag 20 juli 2006 23:17, schreef Marcus Meissner:

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Hi,

Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA commercial drivers should now be possible (again).

Add as ZYPP / YUM source:

http://www2.ati.com/suse/ as repo for ATI drivers and Packages: x11-video-fglrx ati-fglrx-kmp-default (replace default by your kernel flavour)

Its a pitty. But the ATI site is not working, it said "File not found"

You cannot open it as URL in a webbrowser, it is just the base URL for the YUM repo. http://www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/repomd.xml is a file you can download and is the core XML of the YUM repo tree. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Friday 21 July 2006 05:12, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 10:08:16AM +0200, Ben wrote:

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Op donderdag 20 juli 2006 23:17, schreef Marcus Meissner:

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Hi,

Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA commercial drivers should now be possible (again).

Add as ZYPP / YUM source:

http://www2.ati.com/suse/ as repo for ATI drivers and Packages: x11-video-fglrx ati-fglrx-kmp-default (replace default by your kernel flavour)

Its a pitty. But the ATI site is not working, it said "File not found"

You cannot open it as URL in a webbrowser, it is just the base URL for the YUM repo.

http://www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/repomd.xml is a file you can download and is the core XML of the YUM repo tree.

Ciao, Marcus

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Well it seems YUM still doesn't like it much. This is the result of running a search for those files: #> yum -y info x11-video-fglrx Setting up repositories not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - http://www2.ati.com/suse/ Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files That resulted in both KYum and yum from the shell. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

* BandiPat [Jul 21. 2006 14:33]:

Setting up repositories not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - http://www2.ati.com/suse/ Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files

That resulted in both KYum and yum from the shell.

Looks like Kyum/yum try to list files in that repo. This is inhibited by the ati web server. However, direct access to files works. So one can get e.g. http://www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/repomd.xml and download other repo files mentioned in repomd.xml. Klaus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Friday 21 July 2006 12:19, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

* BandiPat [Jul 21. 2006 14:33]:

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Setting up repositories not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - http://www2.ati.com/suse/ Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files

That resulted in both KYum and yum from the shell.

Looks like Kyum/yum try to list files in that repo. This is inhibited by the ati web server. However, direct access to files works. So one can get e.g. http://www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/repomd.xml and download other repo files mentioned in repomd.xml.

Klaus

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So are you saying there are no files to list? I was running the search for the file, one file, listed by Marcus as being there along with the other. The second url you guys have given just bring up some binary code in Konq and every other part just "file not found". Wasn't the files suppose to be setup for all three of the update tools? Smart, YUM & Yast2? That was one of the main purposes of the changes, bugs, problems we've experienced with Yast2, I thought. Marcus, someone else mentioned yast2 worked with the site, but I don't understand why it would and the others wouldn't? There are those of us that would like to get away from using yast2 for such things. So what good is the repository, if you're forced to use just one? regards, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Friday 21 July 2006 18:09, Andreas Hanke wrote: [...]

Report this to ATI. The repo was not designed by SuSE/Novell people and the NVidia repo definitely works.

And actually I think that it's nothing else than a wrong yum setup. Please post your config file from from /etc/yum.repos.d.

The repo _does_ provide a filelist.xml.gz [1], what it doesn't allow are HTTP directory listings, but yum shouldn't depend on that => Please review your setup.

Andreas Hanke

[1] www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/filelists.xml.gz =========

Ok, guys thanks and I apologize for all the noise, it was my error not ATI's or SuSE's. Seems in setting up the mirror, I added a space in the url that threw things off. Grief, it's like programming in Cobol with those periods! ;-) Anyway, thanks for putting up with my whining & rants, but this one was my bad, it works excellent with KYum/YUM as it does with Yast! regards, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:18:07PM -0300, Gabriel. wrote:

Hello Crew Novell/SuSE,

Could incluide the legacy Nvidia driver , please ?

thanks a lot.!!!

See my original mail, ftp://download.nvidia.com/novell/ is a YUM repo with the binary Nvidia driver. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

Its allright Manfred, i have a old Geforce 256.In Kubuntu my card work fine, with the line driver 7174 "Legacy" Could Novell provides the legacy driver that works with the major old hardware ? thanks a lot!! On 7/22/06, Manfred Tremmel wrote:

Am Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 07:21 schrieb Marcus Meissner:

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On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 08:18:07PM -0300, Gabriel. wrote:

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Hello Crew Novell/SuSE,

Could incluide the legacy Nvidia driver , please ?

thanks a lot.!!!

See my original mail,

ftp://download.nvidia.com/novell/

is a YUM repo with the binary Nvidia driver.

The problem is, there is only the diver 1.0.8762, NVidia also provides another driver line for older Hardware that's no longer supported by the mainstream line. This "legacy" driver is currently available as 1.0-7182 at the moment and supports GPUs >= TNT.

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On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 05:51:47PM -0400, BandiPat wrote:

On Friday 21 July 2006 12:19, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

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* BandiPat [Jul 21. 2006 14:33]:

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Setting up repositories not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - http://www2.ati.com/suse/ Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: ATI files

That resulted in both KYum and yum from the shell.

Looks like Kyum/yum try to list files in that repo. This is inhibited by the ati web server. However, direct access to files works. So one can get e.g. http://www2.ati.com/suse/repodata/repomd.xml and download other repo files mentioned in repomd.xml.

Klaus

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So are you saying there are no files to list? I was running the search for the file, one file, listed by Marcus as being there along with the other. The second url you guys have given just bring up some binary code in Konq and every other part just "file not found".

Wasn't the files suppose to be setup for all three of the update tools? Smart, YUM & Yast2? That was one of the main purposes of the changes, bugs, problems we've experienced with Yast2, I thought.

Marcus, someone else mentioned yast2 worked with the site, but I don't understand why it would and the others wouldn't? There are those of us that would like to get away from using yast2 for such things. So what good is the repository, if you're forced to use just one?

I actually tried it myself (with yast) and it works fine. I would suggest to check the code for kyum, but I can't do before Monday :) Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 23 July 2006 03:19, Christoph Thiel wrote: [...]

I'v just tried yum / kyum/yumex on http://www2.ati.com/suse/ and didn't experience any problems. Klaus, how did you set up the repo in yum? [kyum/yumex just use yum as a backend and don't implement any repo handling.]

# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/ati.repo [ati] name=ati type=rpm-md baseurl=http://www2.ati.com/suse/ enabled=1 #

Regards Christoph

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Christoph, It works ok. I replied this weekend to that effect. Turns out the only problem was an extra space I put in the .mirror file for the url. Corrected that and all works with KYum/YUM now just like Yast2. Sorry to have caused so much investigation for an extra space in the mirror name. regards, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

Sven Burmeister writes:

Hi!

Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 23:17 schrieb Marcus Meissner:

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While these are the SLED 10 drivers, but SLE 10 now has the same kernel as SUSE Linux 10.1.

Is this a one-off, or can SuSE 10.1 users rely on that repo to get the packages for ati and nvidia drivers, i.e. is the kernel going to stay the same in 10.1 and SLE 10?

The kernel will stay the same between SUSE Linux 10.1 and SLE10 - it just might be that we release them at different days, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:08:57PM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:

Onsdag 26 juli 2006 15:53 skrev Andreas Jaeger:

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The kernel will stay the same between SUSE Linux 10.1 and SLE10 - it just might be that we release them at different days,

Good. Let the SLED customers test it for us first ;)

Well, you already run their next update kernel on 10.1, but it is just additional security fixes for now. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Janne Karhunen wrote:

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Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA commercial drivers should now be possible (again).

Add as ZYPP / YUM source:

Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them..

If you take a look at http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html, what he stated was Novell's offical position on this topic, which still is: "Most developers of the kernel community consider non-GPL kernel modules to be infringing on their copyright. Novell _does respect this position_, and _will no longer distribute non-GPL kernel modules_ as part of future products." He didn't say that we consinder anything "illegal". And what Marcus was suggesting was to leverage _ATI or NVIDIA provided_ drivers. Regards Christoph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

Janne Karhunen wrote:

On Saturday 29 July 2006 18:07, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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"Most developers of the kernel community consider non-GPL kernel modules to be infringing on their copyright. Novell _does respect this position_, and _will no longer distribute non-GPL kernel modules_ as part of future products."

He didn't say that we consinder anything "illegal".

Actually, as far as I can remember, even the word 'illegal' came out at some stage. Anyway, message was quite clear: they infringe the copyright, are not welcomed and effort is to be put into making life with them as hard as possible :/

It does make life as hard as possible for the poor linux user, who just wants decent video performance, but he's caught in the crossfire between vendors e.g. nvidia who provide drivers for linux, and linux developers who have declared war on these vendors. The linux desktop is the biggest casualty of this war. J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them..

The situation with the nvidia drivers is not quite the same as with say the madwifi drivers. The nvidia drivers use GPLed shim as the actual kernel module, which their non-free driver communicates with thus bypassing the strictly illegal bit. Although they certainly go against the spirit of things. Benji --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 29 July 2006 13:19, B.Weber@warwick.ac.uk wrote:

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Ahem, Kreg KH just announced (at OLS) that Novell considers these ILLEGAL these days and WILL NOT distribute them..

The situation with the nvidia drivers is not quite the same as with say the madwifi drivers. The nvidia drivers use GPLed shim as the actual kernel module, which their non-free driver communicates with thus bypassing the strictly illegal bit. Although they certainly go against the spirit of things.

Benji

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I'm curious as to getting the ATI driver/module working with the newer kernel. Presently it seems that it is set up for the supplied kernel from the YOU repositories, 2.6.16.21-0.8 build? Many of us are running the 2.6.16.21-0.13 build from AJ's site, so the install of the ATI drivers doesn't seem to work correctly to give 3D now. Certainly someone has it working with the new kernel? What's the trick? Is it just a matter of running the shell script once it's installed or is there a need to move some files around to their correct places in the new kernel build's directories? TIA, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org