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Greg Freemyer

14 Jun 2007 14 Jun '07

19:39

All, I read on another mailing list about a clustering whitepaper Novell has put together. http://www.novell.com/documentation/beta/sles10/heartbeat/data/heartbeat.htm... In section 2.6 it instructs you to type "yast2 heartbeat". I get module not found. And if I try to find "heartbeat" in the yast2 software install list I don't find anything. I know where to download heartbeat to experiment with. Is the yast2 module also available, or is that only on the SLES release? Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Michael Folsom

14 Jun 14 Jun

22:38

Greg: Just checked in SLES10 and its there - Which OS did you check on? Michael On 6/14/07, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I read on another mailing list about a clustering whitepaper Novell has put together.

http://www.novell.com/documentation/beta/sles10/heartbeat/data/heartbeat.htm...

In section 2.6 it instructs you to type "yast2 heartbeat".

I get module not found. And if I try to find "heartbeat" in the yast2 software install list I don't find anything.

I know where to download heartbeat to experiment with.

Is the yast2 module also available, or is that only on the SLES release?

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Greg Freemyer

23:13

On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Greg:

Just checked in SLES10 and its there -

Which OS did you check on?

Michael

OpenSUSE 10.2 I had assumed that most of the GPLed code from SLES was included in openSUSE. And I understand yast2 has been gpl'ed. Possibly not the yast2-heartbeat module? But even then heartbeat is a opensource package that has been around for at least 8 years and is supported by at least one Suse developer, so I'm surprised that the core package is not part of the opensuse distro. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael Folsom

15 Jun 15 Jun

04:44

Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module. How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat? M- On 6/14/07, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Greg:

Just checked in SLES10 and its there -

Which OS did you check on?

Michael

OpenSUSE 10.2

I had assumed that most of the GPLed code from SLES was included in openSUSE. And I understand yast2 has been gpl'ed.

Possibly not the yast2-heartbeat module?

But even then heartbeat is a opensource package that has been around for at least 8 years and is supported by at least one Suse developer, so I'm surprised that the core package is not part of the opensuse distro.

Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century

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Sunny

14:12

On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module.

How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat?

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Sloan

17:56

Sunny wrote:

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On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module.

How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat?

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist What am I missing here?

einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1051 > sudo zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124216... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124812... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124727... Parsing metadata for 20070328-125002... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124035... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124857... Parsing metadata for http://software.opensuse.org/download/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_10.2_Update_s...... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124553... Parsing metadata for SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates... S | Catalog | Type | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------+---------+----------------------+----------+----- | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-cmpi | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-gui | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-ldirectord | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-pils | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-stonith | 2.0.7-36 | i586 einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1053 > cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.2 (i586) VERSION = 10.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael Folsom

22:23

I think we are asking about having it and possibly a few other things included in the distro - By-the-by, when I go to the directory you list it contains many rpms but none of the heartbeat rpms listed above. Later - Michael On 6/15/07, Sloan wrote:

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Sunny wrote:

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On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module.

How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat?

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist What am I missing here?

einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1051 > sudo zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124216... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124812... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124727... Parsing metadata for 20070328-125002... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124035... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124857... Parsing metadata for http://software.opensuse.org/download/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_10.2_Update_s...... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124553... Parsing metadata for SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates... S | Catalog | Type | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------+---------+----------------------+----------+----- | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-cmpi | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-gui | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-ldirectord | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-pils | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-stonith | 2.0.7-36 | i586 einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1053 > cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.2 (i586) VERSION = 10.2

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joe

16 Jun 16 Jun

03:03

Michael Folsom wrote:

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I think we are asking about having it and possibly a few other things included in the distro -

By-the-by, when I go to the directory you list it contains many rpms but none of the heartbeat rpms listed above.

hmm, not sure what directory you mean, I just copied and pasted my zypper search command and the output. Maybe you were looking at the source that was listed as a URL, the one with the webcam drivers. I fired up yast and typed "heartbeat" and I come up with the same list of packages, all built at suse.de. I'm running suse 10.2 and the packages are all available at download.opensuse.org -

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On 6/15/07, Sloan wrote:

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S | Catalog | Type | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------+---------+----------------------+----------+----- | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-cmpi | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-gui | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-ldirectord | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-pils | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-stonith | 2.0.7-36 | i586

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Greg Freemyer

20 Jun 20 Jun

19:44

On 6/15/07, Sloan wrote:

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Sunny wrote:

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On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module.

How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat?

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist What am I missing here?

einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1051 > sudo zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124216... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124812... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124727... Parsing metadata for 20070328-125002... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124035... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124857... Parsing metadata for http://software.opensuse.org/download/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_10.2_Update_s...... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124553... Parsing metadata for SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates... S | Catalog | Type | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------+---------+----------------------+----------+----- | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-cmpi | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-gui | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-ldirectord | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-pils | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-stonith | 2.0.7-36 | i586 einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1053 > cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.2 (i586) VERSION = 10.2

I'm confused too. I have a new machine I just installed. It is pretty vanilla at this point although I have added a couple of additional repositories (buildservices). I'm finding nothing in Yast related to heartbeat. And zypper is also not finding anything.

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# zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20061123-210305... Parsing metadata for 20061123-212606... Parsing metadata for 20070620-115223... Parsing metadata for 20061123-201115... Parsing metadata for 20070618-132357... No packages found.

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Are you searching against the factory stuff, or 10.2 vanilla? Also, a search for heartbeat at www.opensuse.org is finding nothing obvious. So, what do I need to do to find those heartbeat modules? Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

20:24

Never mind. I had forgotten (again) that the online master repository contains many more rpms than the downloadable DVD. I added the repository http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/ And now I have the heartbeat packages available in yast. Greg On 6/20/07, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On 6/15/07, Sloan wrote:

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Sunny wrote:

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On 6/14/07, Michael Folsom wrote:

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Don't really think this is about yast - the rpm for heartbeat isn't included in OpenSuse 10.2 or 10.3 Alpha 4 and it is in SLES10. If heartbeat isn't there you really don't need the yast2-heartbeat module.

How does one petition the folks developing OpenSuse to include heartbeat?

http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist What am I missing here?

einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1051 > sudo zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124216... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124812... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124727... Parsing metadata for 20070328-125002... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124035... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124857... Parsing metadata for http://software.opensuse.org/download/drivers:/webcam/openSUSE_10.2_Update_s...... Parsing metadata for 20070328-124553... Parsing metadata for SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates... S | Catalog | Type | Name | Version | Arch --+-----------------+---------+----------------------+----------+----- | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-cmpi | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-gui | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-ldirectord | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-pils | 2.0.7-36 | i586 | 20070328-124035 | package | heartbeat-stonith | 2.0.7-36 | i586 einstein: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/2): bash: 1053 > cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 10.2 (i586) VERSION = 10.2

I'm confused too.

I have a new machine I just installed. It is pretty vanilla at this point although I have added a couple of additional repositories (buildservices). I'm finding nothing in Yast related to heartbeat.

And zypper is also not finding anything.

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# zypper search heartbeat Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for 20061123-210305... Parsing metadata for 20061123-212606... Parsing metadata for 20070620-115223... Parsing metadata for 20061123-201115... Parsing metadata for 20070618-132357... No packages found.

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Are you searching against the factory stuff, or 10.2 vanilla?

Also, a search for heartbeat at www.opensuse.org is finding nothing obvious.

So, what do I need to do to find those heartbeat modules?

Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century

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