in fact since i removed kde1 i no lnger have /opt/kde all i have there is /opt/kde/share thats it the rest is /opt/kde2 On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 11:21:13AM -0400, Landy Roman wrote:

...

Also, Tor suggested that I check /etc/ld.so.config to see if it contained /opt/kde2/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib i wonder if thatsd why i cant run kde2 as wm i do not show those 2 i my /etc/ld.so.conf, but i will not add them until i am sure i am dissapointed thay so far no one has a good solution >

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On Saturday 28 October 2000 11:34, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:

Hi,

I'll be surprised if you even receive the reply, considering what's happened, but if you do, here goes...

First, yes there is a way of restarting *dm without rebooting ( actually, you only need to reboot if you upgrade your kernel or libc, not otherwise :-)

rcxdm stop [change what you like] rcxdm start

That's good to know! Thanks!

Now for next step: Lower your initdefault in /etc/inittab from 3 to 2. This makes sure xdm won't fire up at boot, so makes for easier debugging.

The errors can be found in the first pages of your /var/log/messages. Please check there, and if there are relevant errors, either search for a solution, or paste the errors into a letter and ask us :-)

head -100 /var/log/messages <--- this is how to get the first 100 lines of messages

Here is waht tail -200 gave me: Oct 28 09:44:50 JLKreps YaST[4470]: Started the SuSE-Configuration Tool. Oct 28 09:44:50 JLKreps YaST[4470]: Skipping new package checks. Oct 28 09:44:50 JLKreps YaST[4470]: Reading /etc/rc.config and updating the system... Oct 28 09:44:51 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/SuSEconfig: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:44:52 JLKreps yast[4470]: Oct 28 09:44:52 JLKreps yast[4470]: ATTENTION: You have modified /etc/resolv.conf. Leaving it untouched... Oct 28 09:44:52 JLKreps yast[4470]: You can find my version in /etc/resolv.conf.SuSEconfig... Oct 28 09:44:52 JLKreps yast[4470]: Oct 28 09:44:53 JLKreps yast[4470]: Oct 28 09:44:53 JLKreps yast[4470]: ATTENTION: You have modified /etc/SuSEconfig/profile. Leaving it untouched... Oct 28 09:44:53 JLKreps yast[4470]: You can find my version in /etc/SuSEconfig/profile.SuSEconfig... Oct 28 09:44:53 JLKreps yast[4470]: Oct 28 09:44:54 JLKreps yast[4470]: Installing new /etc/inittab Oct 28 09:44:54 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.groff... Oct 28 09:44:54 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.groff: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:44:55 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.java... Oct 28 09:44:55 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.java: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:44:55 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.javarunt... Oct 28 09:44:55 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.javarunt: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:44:55 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.kdm... Oct 28 09:44:56 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.kdm: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:44:56 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.lyx... Oct 28 09:44:56 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.lyx: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied A slight interruption for a comment: The following stuff on LyX and 'latex' have been showing up on every YaST run every since I installed LyX a week ago. Oct 28 09:44:56 JLKreps yast[4470]: Running LyX configure script ... Oct 28 09:44:56 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a LaTeX2e program... ( latex latex2e) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "latex"... yes Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for the pdflatex program... (pdflatex) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "pdflatex"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for reLyX LaTeX-to-LyX translator... (reLyX) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "reLyX"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a Literate programming processor... (noweave -delay -index) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "noweave"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a Postscript interpreter... (gs) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "gs"... yes Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a Postscript previewer... (gv ghostview) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "gv"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "ghostview"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a PDF preview... (xpdf acroread gv ghostview) Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "xpdf"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "acroread"... no Oct 28 09:44:57 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "gv"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "ghostview"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a PDF to PS converter... (pdf2ps pdftops) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "pdf2ps"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a DVI to PS converter... (dvips) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "dvips"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a *roff formatter... (groff nroff) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "groff"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for ChkTeX... (chktex) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "chktex"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a spell-checker... (ispell) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "ispell"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a fax driver... (sendfax faxsend fax) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "sendfax"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "faxsend"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "fax"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for SGML-tools 1.x (LinuxDoc)... (sgml2lyx) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "sgml2lyx"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for SGML-tools 2.x (DocBook)... (sgmltools) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "sgmltools"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for a spool command... (lp lpr) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "lp"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "lpr"... yes Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking for an HTML converter... (tth latex2html hevea) Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "tth"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "latex2html"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for "hevea"... no Oct 28 09:44:58 JLKreps yast[4470]: checking LaTeX configuration... auto Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +Inspecting your LaTeX configuration. Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for LaTeX version... 1999/12/01 Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for default encoding (this may take a long time) Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: + checking for ec fonts... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: + checking for ec support in LaTeX format... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class IEEEtran [IEEEtran]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class aapaper [aa]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class aastex [aastex]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class amsart-plain [amsart]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class amsart-seq [amsart]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class amsart [amsart]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class amsbook [amsbook]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class apa [apa,apacite.sty]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class article [article]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class book [book]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class broadway [broadway]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class dinbrief [dinbrief]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for docbook class docbook... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class egs [egs]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class ejour2 [ejour2]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class foils [foils]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class g-brief-de [g-brief]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class g-brief-en [g-brief]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class hollywood [hollywood]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class iletter [iletter]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class latex8 [article,latex8.sty,times.sty]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class letter [letter]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for linuxdoc class linuxdoc... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class literate-article [article,noweb.sty]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class literate-book [book,noweb.sty]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class literate-report [report,noweb.sty]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for linuxdoc class manpage... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class paper [paper]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class report [report]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class revtex [revtex]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class revtex4 [revtex4]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class scrartcl [scrartcl]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class scrbook [scrbook]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class scrlettr [scrlettr]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class scrreprt [scrreprt]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for document class slides [slides]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package a4 [a4]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package a4wide [a4wide]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package babel [babel]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package color [color]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package fancyhdr [fancyhdr]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package floatflt [floatflt]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package setspace [setspace]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package subfigure [subfigure]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package geometry [geometry]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package longtable [longtable]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package algorithm [algorithm]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package rotating [rotating]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package latex8 [latex8]... no Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package url [url]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package graphics [graphics]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for graphics driver... default Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +checking for package psnfss [times.sty]... yes Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +Inspection done. Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: +Read the file doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx for more information. Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: creating textclass.lst Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: creating packages.lst Oct 28 09:44:59 JLKreps yast[4470]: creating doc/LaTeXConfig.lyx Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: creating lyxrc.defaults That's the end of the repeating LyX stuff. (Which is another matter, but begs the question as to why YaST never recognizes the LyK as being installed and insists on re-running the install script everytime I use YaST.) We resume... Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.pcmcia... Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.pcmcia: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.perl... Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.sendmail... Oct 28 09:45:02 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.sendmail: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:04 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susehilf... Oct 28 09:45:04 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susehilf: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:04 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susehilf.add... Oct 28 09:45:04 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susehilf.add: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:04 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm... Oct 28 09:45:05 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:05 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:14 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.tetex... Oct 28 09:45:16 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.tetex: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:16 JLKreps yast[4470]: Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.ypclient... Oct 28 09:45:16 JLKreps yast[4470]: /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.ypclient: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission denied Oct 28 09:45:28 JLKreps yast[4470]: Finished. Oct 28 09:45:43 JLKreps init: Switching to runlevel: 6 Oct 28 09:45:51 JLKreps kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped. Oct 28 09:45:51 JLKreps kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating. Oct 28 09:45:52 JLKreps exiting on signal 15

Also, did you change anything else, since you booted the last time, until this fatal reboot ?

Nope. I logged in as root. Made the changes to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig. Then I edited the kdm script and changed kde to kde2 in the /sbin/init.d/kdm script at the following location. case "$DISPLAYMANAGER" in kdm|kde2|KDM|KDE2) DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/kde2/bin/kdm ;; gdm|GDM|Gnome|GNOME) DISPLAYMANAGER=/opt/gnome/bin/gdm ;; *) DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm ;; esac test ! -x "$DISPLAYMANAGER" && DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm That's about it. Then I rebooted to make the kdm change take place and the rest is history. This incident brings up some interesting questions: 1) Why is root limited to membership in only 32 groups. (I never added, changed or removed root to any groups. SuSE did that out of the box.) 2) If, during SuSEconfig execution (or kernel booting), there are files that root doesn't have access to, what user does? I thought root was GOD. 3) How can my email get out if KMail keeps telling me it can't connect with my ISP. I've got sendmail selected as the protocal. SMTP won't even work. Is the mail sneaking out via the localhost? Thanks Tor, Jerry

Regards, Tor Sigurdsson

On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:41:02AM -0500, Jerry L Kreps wrote:

...

I was trying to work out why my KDE2 installation was maxing out my swap file and slowing to a stop. I noticed that I was still running /opt/kde/bin/kdm to run kde2!!! Also, Tor suggested that I check /etc/ld.so.config to see if it contained /opt/kde2/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib

It didn't.

So, I added those two lines and ran ldconfig. I edited the kdm script to change kde to kde2 and the path to /opt/kde2/bin/kdm

Then I rebooted to make the changes effect. (Is there a way to change the kdm without rebooting?) That's when the problems started.

I get a ton of error messages while the kernel is booting, and a message about "XBINDIR" not binding, or something like that. It goes by too fast to read. Here is an example of the messages: /sbin/init.d/rc2.d/S20rusersd: /etc/rc.config.d/idedma.rc.config: Permission deinied

The same for S20rwhod, S20sendmail, and S21 stuff, etc.... Which is will I will be supprised if this email gets out.

What do I do to fix this stuff. JLK

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