On Monday last week, I have installed Tumbletweed with KDE Plasma. In the first two days, the sound worked fine, but then it stopped working and a red diagonal stroke appeared across the speaker icon on the panel. When I click on it, a window pops up, entitled "Audio volume" and saying: "No output or input devices found", but not giving me any chance of specifying such a device. Since under Tumbletweed, Yast does not contain any possibility of sound configuration, I don't know what to do for making the two sound cards, or at least one of them, work. Any help is welcome. Thank you in advance and best regards, Wolfgang.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <fce03bc7-e2d4-4486-b622-24f6d3e1f732@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:24:25 +0200 [WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written: WM> On Monday last week, I have installed Tumbletweed with KDE WM> Plasma. In the first two days, the sound worked fine, but then it WM> stopped working and a red diagonal stroke appeared across the WM> speaker icon on the panel. When I click on it, a window pops up, WM> entitled "Audio volume" and saying: "No output or input devices WM> found", but not giving me any chance of specifying such a device. WM> Since under Tumbletweed, Yast does not contain any possibility of sound WM> configuration, I don't know what to do for making the two sound cards, or at WM> least one of them, work. pavucontrol (not pavucontrol-qt) will help you a lot. Kind Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Hassabis says that no one really knows for sure that AI will become a major danger. But he is certain that if progress continues at its current pace, there isn’t much time to develop safeguards. "I can see the kinds of things we're building into the Gemini series right, and we have no reason to believe that they won't work," he says." -- "Google DeepMind's CEO Says Its Next Algorithm Will Eclipse ChatGPT" --
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 13:08:05 +0200, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <fce03bc7-e2d4-4486-b622-24f6d3e1f732@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:24:25 +0200
[WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written:
WM> On Monday last week, I have installed Tumbletweed with KDE WM> Plasma. In the first two days, the sound worked fine, but WM> then it stopped working and a red diagonal stroke appeared WM> across the speaker icon on the panel. When I click on it, WM> a window pops up, entitled "Audio volume" and saying: "No WM> output or input devices found", but not giving me any chance WM> of specifying such a device.
WM> Since under Tumbletweed, Yast does not contain any possibility WM> of sound configuration, I don't know what to do for making the WM> two sound cards, or at least one of them, work.
pavucontrol (not pavucontrol-qt) will help you a lot.
Having installed pavucontrol, I invoked it. The response was: "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."
Kind Regards & Good Night.
I obviously have to wait for the connection to PulseAudio until tomorrow or even longer. So, good night and sweet dreams! Bye, Wolfgang
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <5fa0be59-8a8b-4752-95dc-82d458d3fd07@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:59:13 +0200 [WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written: WM> On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 13:08:05 +0200, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN>> pavucontrol (not pavucontrol-qt) will help you a lot. WM> Having installed pavucontrol, I invoked it. The response was: WM> "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..." Oh, dear. The pulseaudio daemon isn't running. Presumably, $ pulseaudio --check won't return 0. If so, please do; $ pulseaudio -D Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Hassabis says that no one really knows for sure that AI will become a major danger. But he is certain that if progress continues at its current pace, there isn’t much time to develop safeguards. "I can see the kinds of things we're building into the Gemini series right, and we have no reason to believe that they won't work," he says." -- "Google DeepMind's CEO Says Its Next Algorithm Will Eclipse ChatGPT" --
On Sat, 14 Oct 2023 at 03:33:56 +0200, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <5fa0be59-8a8b-4752-95dc-82d458d3fd07@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:59:13 +0200
[WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written:
WM> On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 13:08:05 +0200, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN>> pavucontrol (not pavucontrol-qt) will help you a lot.
WM> Having installed pavucontrol, I invoked it. The response was: WM> "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."
Oh, dear.
The pulseaudio daemon isn't running.
Presumably,
$ pulseaudio --check
won't return 0.
If so, please do;
$ pulseaudio -D
First of all, thanks a lot, Masaru! I followed your advises: "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. Then I tried "pulseaudio -D" as root, getting the reply: "This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified). E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." So, I tried "pulseaudio -D" as a normal user, getting the reply: "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.", keeping secret the reason of this failure. Finally, I tried "pulseaudio -D --system" as root, getting this answer "W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-exit not set. W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-module- loading not set. N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling SHM mode. N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling exit idle time." But even now, "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. Bye, Wolfgang
On 10/14/23 06:56, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Finally, I tried "pulseaudio -D --system" as root, getting this answer "W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-exit not set. W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-module- loading not set. N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling SHM mode. N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling exit idle time."
But even now, "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response.
I've found wireplumber (wpctl status) from pipewire helpful as well, e.g. $ wpctl status Which may help point you to an issue with your sound setup from another starting point. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <b5ff9f01-b921-4f97-b6a7-48e0e11f42e2@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 09:29:41 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> has written: [...] WM> > But even now, "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. DCR> I've found wireplumber (wpctl status) from pipewire helpful as well, e.g. DCR> $ wpctl status DCR> Which may help point you to an issue with your sound setup from DCR> another starting point. Wolfgang uses pulseaudio system, not pipewire system. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
Hi Den 15.10.2023 kl. 06.11 skrev Masaru Nomiya:
Wolfgang uses pulseaudio system, not pipewire system. I don't see Wolfgang stating that in this tread? According to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Pipewire "Since the 20220708 openSUSE Tumbleweed release, new installations use PipeWire as the default audio engine"
If using pipewire under KDE, I find qpwgraph very good at illustrating what is goin on. -- Klaus
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <7e62b6de-f88f-4970-be42-0e265bb83e72@vink-slott.dk> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 14:15:03 +0200 [KVS] == Klaus Vink Slott via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: KVS> Hi KVS> Den 15.10.2023 kl. 06.11 skrev Masaru Nomiya: KVS> > Wolfgang uses pulseaudio system, not pipewire system. KVS> I don't see Wolfgang stating that in this tread? According to KVS> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Pipewire KVS> "Since the 20220708 openSUSE Tumbleweed release, new KVS> installations use PipeWire as the default audio engine" KVS> If using pipewire under KDE, I find qpwgraph very good at KVS> illustrating what is goin on. No, I don't think so. First, I installed 20230806 Tumbleweed on my Laptop for testing, and the default engine was pulseaudio. Second, the pipewire system does not have the pulseaudio command, so this is not possible; In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <3545082d-d25a-45ca-9fa4-e6eded713dd3@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:56:48 +0200 [WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written: [...] WM> Then I tried "pulseaudio -D" as root, getting the reply: WM> "This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified). WM> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." WM> So, I tried "pulseaudio -D" as a normal user, getting the reply: WM> "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.", keeping secret the reason of WM> this failure. WM> Finally, I tried "pulseaudio -D --system" as root, getting this answer WM> "W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-exit not set. WM> W: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, but --disallow-module- loading WM> not set. WM> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling SHM mode. WM> N: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode, forcibly disabling exit idle WM> time." WM> But even now, "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
Hello, Sorery for late reply. In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <3545082d-d25a-45ca-9fa4-e6eded713dd3@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:56:48 +0200 [WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written: [...] MN> > The pulseaudio daemon isn't running. MN> > MN> > Presumably, MN> > MN> > $ pulseaudio --check MN> > MN> > won't return 0. MN> > MN> > If so, please do; MN> > MN> > $ pulseaudio -D WM> First of all, thanks a lot, Masaru! I followed your advises: WM> "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. [...] WM> So, I tried "pulseaudio -D" as a normal user, getting the reply: WM> "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.", keeping secret WM> the reason of this failure. [...] Please don't do it as root. Anyway, your system seems to be going haywire. How about this? 1. $ ps aux | grep pulseaudio 2. kill all pulseaudio processes, just like this; (ex.) masaru 2473 0.0 0.0 50376 26824 ? S<sl 09:39 0:05 /usr/bin/pulseaudio [...] $ kill -9 2473 [...] 3. rm -rf ~/.config/pulse 4. $ pulseaudio -v -D Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Companies have come to view generative AI as a kind of monster that must be fed at all costs―even if it isn’t always clear what exactly that data is needed for or what those future AI systems might end up doing." -- Generative AI Is Making Companies Even More Thirsty for Your Data --
On Sun, 15 Oct 2023 at 06:07:59 +0200, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
Sorry for late reply.
Don't worry. Given the time lag between Japan and Europe, delays are inevitable.
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <3545082d-d25a-45ca-9fa4-e6eded713dd3@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:56:48 +0200
[WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written:
[...] MN> > The pulseaudio daemon isn't running. MN> > MN> > Presumably, MN> > MN> > $ pulseaudio --check MN> > MN> > won't return 0. MN> > MN> > If so, please do; MN> > MN> > $ pulseaudio -D
WM> First of all, thanks a lot, Masaru! I followed your advises:
WM> "pulseaudio --check" does not give any response. [...] WM> So, I tried "pulseaudio -D" as a normal user, getting the reply: WM> "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.", keeping secret WM> the reason of this failure. [...]
Please don't do it as root.
Anyway, your system seems to be going haywire.
How about this?
1. $ ps aux | grep pulseaudio
2. kill all pulseaudio processes, just like this;
(ex.) masaru 2473 0.0 0.0 50376 26824 ? S<sl 09:39 0:05 /usr/bin/pulseaudio [...]
$ kill -9 2473
There was nothing to be killed, because pulseaudio did not run on my system.
3. rm -rf ~/.config/pulse
This directory contained one file only: ~/.config/pulse/cookie. Anyway, I removed it.
4. $ pulseaudio -v -D
This command produced the response: "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." Bye, Wolfgang
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Sound under Tumbletweed Message-ID : <058285d7-0180-4897-9ef5-afaac5a12721@ariannuccia.de> Date & Time: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 18:45:09 +0200 [WM] == Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> has written: [...] MN> > $ kill -9 2473 WM> There was nothing to be killed, because pulseaudio did not run on WM> my system. WM> > 3. rm -rf ~/.config/pulse WM> This directory contained one file only: ~/.config/pulse/cookie. WM> Anyway, I removed it. WM> > 4. $ pulseaudio -v -D WM> This command produced the response: WM> "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." The pulseaudio system seems to be corrupted. How about uninstalling pulseaudio and libpulse0 and reinstalling them? If this does not work, please show the result of; $ pulseaudio -vvvv Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Hassabis says that no one really knows for sure that AI will become a major danger. But he is certain that if progress continues at its current pace, there isn’t much time to develop safeguards. "I can see the kinds of things we're building into the Gemini series right, and we have no reason to believe that they won't work," he says." -- "Google DeepMind's CEO Says Its Next Algorithm Will Eclipse ChatGPT" --
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