Hi Des, I certainly don't mean to be going OT, but I will defend Microsoft's

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if they are falsely represented on a Linux board, MacOS board, or any other board. I'm both a Linux and Windows user, and I like both OSes. I will defend Windows to a Linux user just as I would Linux to a Windows user. If you look, while I'm not going to get into a fun game of finger pointing, I wasn't the one who originally brought up MS.

Nope , I brought M$ up for there upgrade poliucy for win95 with regard to the "enhancements made to it in service release 2 and not provided to customers who baought it , while making it avialble only to OEM pc makers leaving previos users in the dust. Only due to the flack created and the DOJ did they make a policyu change in win98. I have been far more happier with suse linux , and when needed can download or even get a whole new cd set for a fraction of the cost of windows , and it is a lot more stable , wich means once the pc is set up I dont have to touch it agien. That was one of my major concerns as I travel alot and if I am away the pc stays out of servie till I get back. I have never had a linux box go down on me , and have been using it since 5.3 As far as releivalty to linux , M$ is one of the competiters , and only by keeping an eye on it can linux compete with it.If we keep our head in the sand than we have allready lost.

-Tim

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-----Original Message----- From: Des Aubery [mailto:daubery@mweb.co.za] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:38 AM To: tbutler@uninetsolutions.com; Samy Elashmawy; SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] Fundamental differences

Hi Tim,

I have noticed the ongoing support you seem to have for the Winxx systems, with so many eloquent answers in support of Microsoft's policies etc.

Can I perhaps ask why you need to say all this on a Linux newsgroup - would it not be better to write to Bill himself. Goodness knows, he seems to need the support. Keep this board focused on Linux-related issues...

Best regards,

Des Aubery...

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From: "Timothy R. Butler" To: Samy Elashmawy , SuSE Mailing List Subject: RE: [SLE] Fundamental differences Date: Mon, Jul 10, 2000, 11:51 PM

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Samy, The Windows 98 to Windows 98 SE upgrade is just 20 bucks at windowsupdate.microsoft.com . Even if Microsoft was the evil empire (I don't think it is), they wouldn't charge you another $89. Although I remember when

DOS 6.22

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came out and the 6.2 to 6.22 upgrade was just $9.

-Tim

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-----Original Message----- From: Samy Elashmawy [mailto:samelash@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 11:01 AM To: Derek Fountain; SuSE English Subject: Re: [SLE] Fundamental differences

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I just think you are a troll. Learn some about CS and operating systems. Come back in a while when Bill doesn't have you under his voodoo magic.

Jack,

I'm not a troll. I've been using Linux for 7 years and I have a 1st class degree in Comp Sci. I think I know what I'm talking about, and I also know when I *don't* know stuff, which is more than can be said for a lot of people.

What actually caused my original post was when I saw that Windows 98 (I think, maybe NT or W2K) does what we call IP masquerading. It seems that Microsoft is catching up with

NO NO NO , its another way to rob you of another 89.99 upgrading your first edetion to second edition just for a few more tweaks on somthing you allready own and paid for.

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the system level power of Linux and slowly erradicating our advantages. This worries me.

If you think this is also a troll, kindly keep your mouth shut and let others make constructive comments.

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