I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before. Any ideas?? Nick
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:28, nick murphy wrote:
I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before.
Any ideas??
Nick
Install and run xntpd, this will keep your clock in sync with the rest of the world. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
Ken Schneider:
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:28, nick murphy wrote:
I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before.
Any ideas??
Nick
Install and run xntpd, this will keep your clock in sync with the rest of the world.
This is not solution. I have also a brand-new computer and after upgrading to SuSE 9.0 clock is always some minutes behind or ahead. With 8.2 it worked normally. And some other users I have talked to have the same problem, and only with 2.4.21 kernel. I suspect some buggy behavior from operating system. ain
Op vrijdag 14 november 2003 18:28, schreef Ain Vagula:
This is not solution. I have also a brand-new computer and after upgrading to SuSE 9.0 clock is always some minutes behind or ahead. With 8.2 it worked normally. And some other users I have talked to have the same problem, and only with 2.4.21 kernel. I suspect some buggy behavior from operating system.
Hmm, that may be my problem than as well. My system is often behind lately (since running 9.0).... -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Hi, Am Freitag, 14. November 2003 21:35 schrieb Richard Bos:
Op vrijdag 14 november 2003 18:28, schreef Ain Vagula:
This is not solution. I have also a brand-new computer and after upgrading to SuSE 9.0 clock is always some minutes behind or ahead. With 8.2 it worked normally. And some other users I have talked to have the same problem, and only with 2.4.21 kernel. I suspect some buggy behavior from operating system.
Hmm, that may be my problem than as well. My system is often behind lately (since running 9.0)....
Try removing the "desktop" parameter from the kernel append line in /boot/grub/menu.lst Chances are that after next reboot those problems are gone. http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/pohletz_desktop_90.html http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_scheduling.html Greetings from Bremen hartmut
Hartmut Meyer:
Hi,
Am Freitag, 14. November 2003 21:35 schrieb Richard Bos:
Op vrijdag 14 november 2003 18:28, schreef Ain Vagula:
This is not solution. I have also a brand-new computer and after upgrading to SuSE 9.0 clock is always some minutes behind or ahead. With 8.2 it worked normally. And some other users I have talked to have the same problem, and only with 2.4.21 kernel. I suspect some buggy behavior from operating system.
Hmm, that may be my problem than as well. My system is often behind lately (since running 9.0)....
Try removing the "desktop" parameter from the kernel append line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
Chances are that after next reboot those problems are gone.
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/pohletz_desktop_90.html http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_scheduling.html
Seems like this didn't help, after 7 hours it is ahead 5 secs again. Seems like this happens at certain moments, because 2 hours ago times with test computers were equal. ain
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Hartmut Meyer:
Hi,
Am Freitag, 14. November 2003 21:35 schrieb Richard Bos:
Op vrijdag 14 november 2003 18:28, schreef Ain Vagula:
This is not solution. I have also a brand-new computer and after upgrading to SuSE 9.0 clock is always some minutes behind or ahead. With 8.2 it worked normally. And some other users I have talked to have the same problem, and only with 2.4.21 kernel. I suspect some buggy behavior from operating system.
Hmm, that may be my problem than as well. My system is often behind lately (since running 9.0)....
Try removing the "desktop" parameter from the kernel append line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
Chances are that after next reboot those problems are gone.
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/pohletz_desktop_90.html http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2003/10/90_scheduling.html
Seems like this didn't help, after 7 hours it is ahead 5 secs again. Seems like this happens at certain moments, because 2 hours ago times with test computers were equal.
These are the pertinent parts of my ntp.conf file and my system keeps perfect time. ************************************************************ server 152.1.58.124 server 205.188.185.33 server 127.127.1.0 # local clock (LCL) fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 # LCL is unsynchronized driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift # path for drift file logfile /var/log/ntp # alternate log file logconfig =all ************************************************************* I don't think anything more is needed. After changing the file issue rcxntpd restart to restart the daemon (re-reads the conf file). This all assumes you have a 24/7 connection to the internet so that the time can be kept corrected. Ken Schneider
On Friday 14 November 2003 15:28 pm, nick murphy wrote:
I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before.
Any ideas??
Are you dualbooting with Win? Does the bios battery need replacing? Dylan
Nick
-- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg
Dylan wrote:
On Friday 14 November 2003 15:28 pm, nick murphy wrote:
I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before.
Any ideas??
Are you dualbooting with Win?
Does the bios battery need replacing?
Dylan
Nick
I have started xntpd but nothing changed with the time. Do you have to reboot? No I am not dual booting on my home work station but am on my laptop - have to for work :(. Does that make a difference to xntpd functionality? Once started does the network time demon start up on each boot or should a put it in one of the startup files? Nick
On Friday 14 November 2003 16:42 pm, nick murphy wrote:
I have started xntpd but nothing changed with the time. Do you have to reboot?
No, but you need to set up the timeservers to use - see the docs in /usr/ share/doc/packages/xntp and check out www.ntp.org
No I am not dual booting on my home work station but am on my laptop - have to for work :(. Does that make a difference to xntpd functionality?
No, not at all, but Win can fsck up the bios time for linux (god knows how but it happens)
Once started does the network time demon start up on each boot or should a put it in one of the startup files?
Open the runlevel editor in Yast>system and go to the runlevel properties, make sure it shows up as activated for levels 3 and 5 Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg
The Friday 2003-11-14 at 16:59 -0000, Dylan wrote:
No I am not dual booting on my home work station but am on my laptop - have to for work :(. Does that make a difference to xntpd functionality?
No, not at all, but Win can fsck up the bios time for linux (god knows how but it happens)
I do, and I have reported it here many times O:-) Assuming that 9.0 is the same as 8.2 in this respect, delete /etc/adjtime. For more details, search the list archive. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Dylan
No, but you need to set up the timeservers to use - see the docs in /usr/ share/doc/packages/xntp and check out www.ntp.org
<soapbox> And *please* don't use stratum1 servers if you can avoid it. Stratum 2 is good enough for most folks, no need to poll the servers that directly hang off the atomic clocks or similar time sources. </soapbox> Philipp
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 11:42, nick murphy wrote:
Dylan wrote:
On Friday 14 November 2003 15:28 pm, nick murphy wrote:
I have been having problems with the system clock in Kpanel since upgrading to 9.0. It is also a problem on a fresh install. The time seems rather erratic, always wrong. It can be just a few minutes out or way out every time I turn the computer on. I have tried it out on the two different settings UTC and local time but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This has never been a problem before.
Any ideas??
Are you dualbooting with Win?
Does the bios battery need replacing?
Dylan
Nick
I have started xntpd but nothing changed with the time. Do you have to reboot? No I am not dual booting on my home work station but am on my laptop - have to for work :(. Does that make a difference to xntpd functionality?
Once started does the network time demon start up on each boot or should a put it in one of the startup files?
Nick
You also need to setup the time servers in the /etc/ntp.conf as well. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
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