I was surprised to see that the generate-modprobe.conf script in modutils-2.4.25-50 on the SuSE 9.0 CD1 was exactly the same as the one in the latest module-init-tools. I used it to generate a new /etc/modprobe.conf, but that doesn't work completely, so I've modded the one that is part of aaa_base-9.0-6 to include alsa and my 8139too module, but I have yet to test it out. Regards Sid. Catimimi wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Daniloff" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:03 AM Subject: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

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Hello SuSE folks, Could somebody tell me please where I can get proper modutils for new 2.6.0-xx kernels? I need to generate /etc/modprobe.conf file, but generate-modprobe.conf script is not included with my current modutils-2.4.26-1 package. Many thanks in advance,

Alex

I'm surprised, it is in the 2.4.25 package in directory /sbin Anyway you can find it at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

Catimimi.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sid Boyce" To: "SuSE English" Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

OK, I've rebooted with the modded /etc/modprobe.conf and everything starts except my webcam which is missing from modprobe.conf, but "modprobe ov511" worked and replugging the webcam caused it to be picked up. I also have my CH PRODUCTS Yoke and Pedals working, final thing I need is a modded nVidia 4496 driver so I can get FlightGear Sim back again. Regards Sid.

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My /etc/modprobe.conf for anyone who wants it. ------------------------------------------------------

Do you mean that you are able to run alsa as modules ? I never succeed and get unknown symbols error messages, and have to compile alsa in the kernel ! At the 4th line of /var/log/boot.msg I get : no module symbols loaded : kernel modules are not enabled ! Do you have that? if not is it due to kernel.org modutils ? Thanks for help Catimimi.

Sid Boyce wrote:

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I was surprised to see that the generate-modprobe.conf script in modutils-2.4.25-50 on the SuSE 9.0 CD1 was exactly the same as the one in the latest module-init-tools. I used it to generate a new /etc/modprobe.conf, but that doesn't work completely, so I've modded the one that is part of aaa_base-9.0-6 to include alsa and my 8139too module, but I have yet to test it out. Regards Sid.

Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Daniloff" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:03 AM Subject: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

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Hello SuSE folks, Could somebody tell me please where I can get proper modutils for new 2.6.0-xx kernels? I need to generate /etc/modprobe.conf file, but generate-modprobe.conf script is not included with my current modutils-2.4.26-1 package. Many thanks in advance,

Alex

I'm surprised, it is in the 2.4.25 package in directory /sbin Anyway you can find it at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

Catimimi.

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# # Copyright (c) 1996-2002 SuSE Linux AG Nuernberg, Germany. # All rights reserved. # # Author: Hubert Mantel , 1996-2002 # # Configuration file for loadable modules; used by modprobe # # ######################################################################## # Aliases - specify your hardware ########################################################################

install eth0 /bin/true install eth1 /bin/true install tr0 /bin/true install scsi_hostadapter /bin/true install fb0 /bin/true

######################################################################## # only used for Mylex or Compaq Raid as module ########################################################################

install block-major-48 /bin/true install block-major-49 /bin/true install block-major-72 /bin/true install block-major-73 /bin/true

######################################################################## # only needed for fifth and sixth IDE adaptor ########################################################################

install block-major-56 /bin/true install block-major-57 /bin/true

######################################################################## # mouse (for older busmice) ########################################################################

install char-major-10 /bin/true

######################################################################## # If you want to use the new autofs4 ########################################################################

# alias autofs autofs4

######################################################################## # For parallel port devices, uncomment the following two lines and # change "frpw" to the protocol type you use ########################################################################

# install paride /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install paride && { /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install frpw; } # remove paride { /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove frpw; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove paride

######################################################################## # # Aliases for OSS # # These aliases will be changed by YaST2 sound configurator. # If you would like to configure OSS drivers by yourself, please # take a look at the files on /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound. # ########################################################################

install char-major-14 /bin/true install sound /bin/true install midi /bin/true

######################################################################## # Options; these are examples; uncomment and modify the lines you need ########################################################################

# options cdu31a cdu31a_port=0x340 cdu31a_irq=0 # options sbpcd sbpcd=0x230,1 # options aztcd aztcd=0x320 # options cm206 cm206=0x340,11 # options gscd gscd=0x340 # options mcd mcd=0x300,11 # options mcdx mcdx=0x300,11 # options optcd optcd=0x340 # options sjcd sjcd_base=0x340 # options sonycd535 sonycd535=0x340 # options isp16 isp16_cdrom_base=0x340 isp16_cdrom_irq=0 isp16_cdrom_dma=0 isp16_cdrom_type=Sanyo

# options ne io=0x300 irq=5

# Use this if you have two cards: # options ne io=0x300,0x320 irq=5,7

# options tulip options=0 # options 3c59x options=0 # options 3c501 io=0x280 irq=5 # options 3c503 io=0x280 irq=5 xcvr=0 # options 3c505 io=0x300 irq=10 # options 3c507 io=0x300 irq=10 # options 3c509 irq=10 # options at1700 io=0x260 irq=10 # options smc-ultra io=0x200 irq=10 # options wd io=0x300 irq=10 # options smc9194 io=0x200 irq=10 ifport=0 # options e2100 io=0x300 irq=10 mem=0xd0000 xcvr=0 # options depca io=0x200 irq=7 # options ewrk3 io=0x300 irq=10 # options eexpress io=0x300 irq=10 # options hp-plus io=0x300 irq=10 # options hp io=0x300 irq=10 # options hp100 hp100_port=0x380 # options apricot io=0x300 irq=10 # options ac3200 io=0x300 irq=10 mem=0xd0000 # options de620 io=0x378 irq=7 bnc=1 # options ibmtr io=0xa20 # options arcnet io=0x300 irq=10 shmem=0xd0000 # options plip io=0x378 irq=7 # options eepro io=0x260 irq=10 mem=0x6000 # options eth16i io=0x2a0 irq=10 # options fmv18x io=0x220 irq=10 # options ni52 io=0x360 irq=9 memstart=0xd0000 memend=0xd4000 # options bttv pll=1 radio=0 card=0 # options tuner type=0 # options msp3400 once=1 simple=1

# install bttv /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install bttv && { /sbin/modprobe -k tuner; /sbin/modprobe -k msp3400; } #

install dummy0 /sbin/modprobe -o dummy0 --ignore-install dummy0 install dummy1 /sbin/modprobe -o dummy1 --ignore-install dummy1

######################################################################## # cipe section ########################################################################

alias cipcb0 cipcb alias cipcb1 cipcb

options cipcb cipe_debug=0

######################################################################## # block dev aliases ########################################################################

alias block-major-1 rd alias block-major-2 floppy install block-major-3 /bin/true alias block-major-7 loop alias block-major-8 sd_mod alias block-major-11 sr_mod alias block-major-13 xd alias block-major-15 cdu31a alias block-major-16 gscd alias block-major-17 optcd alias block-major-18 sjcd alias block-major-20 mcdx install block-major-22 /bin/true alias block-major-23 mcd alias block-major-24 sonycd535 alias block-major-25 sbpcd alias block-major-26 sbpcd alias block-major-27 sbpcd alias block-major-28 sbpcd alias block-major-29 aztcd alias block-major-32 cm206 install block-major-33 /bin/true install block-major-34 /bin/true # network block device install block-major-43 /bin/true alias block-major-45 pd alias block-major-46 pcd alias block-major-47 pf alias block-major-117 evms

######################################################################## # char dev aliases ########################################################################

alias char-major-6 lp alias char-major-9 st alias char-major-10-130 softdog install char-major-10-134 /bin/true install char-major-10-135 /bin/true alias char-major-10-175 agpgart alias char-major-10-181 toshiba alias char-major-10-240 agpgarti810 alias char-major-10-250 sonypi options sonypi minor=250 install char-major-15 /bin/true alias char-major-19 cyclades alias char-major-20 cyclades alias char-major-21 sg alias char-major-27 ftape install char-major-29 /bin/true alias char-major-36 netlink_dev # alias char-major-43 hisax # alias char-major-44 hisax # alias char-major-45 hisax install char-major-43 /bin/true install char-major-44 /bin/true install char-major-45 /bin/true alias char-major-48 riscom8 alias char-major-49 riscom8 alias char-major-67 coda alias char-major-75 specialix alias char-major-76 specialix alias char-major-81 videodev install char-major-81-0 /bin/true install char-major-81-1 /bin/true install char-major-81-2 /bin/true install char-major-81-3 /bin/true

alias char-major-83 vtx options vtx quiet=1

alias char-major-89 i2c-dev alias char-major-96 pt alias char-major-97 pg alias char-major-107 3dfx alias char-major-109 lvm-mod # remove this if sound is configured install char-major-116 /bin/true

######################################################################## # ppp over ethernet # the kernel 2.2 uses pppox # the kernel 2.4 uses pppoe ########################################################################

alias char-major-108 ppp_generic alias char-major-144 pppoe alias net-pf-24 pppoe

######################################################################## # IrDA ########################################################################

alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty

######################################################################## # USB ########################################################################

install char-major-166 /bin/true

######################################################################## # Moxa Multiport Serial Boards ########################################################################

alias char-major-172 moxa alias char-major-173 moxa

# options moxa type=2,,, baseaddr=0xdc000,,, numports=8,,, alias char-major-174 mxser alias char-major-175 mxser # options mxser ioaddr=0x180

#alias char-major-180 usbcore

alias InterMezzo intermezzo alias char-major-185 intermezzo

alias char-major-188 usbserial

alias char-major-195 NVdriver alias char-major-206 osst alias char-major-212 /bin/true

alias binfmt-204 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-263 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-264 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-267 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout alias binfmt-0008 binfmt_aout

alias iso9660 isofs alias tty-ldisc-1 slip alias tty-ldisc-2 serio alias tty-ldisc-5 mkiss

# alias tty-ldisc-7 6pack install tty-ldisc-7 /bin/true

# IrDA alias tty-ldisc-11 irtty

# alias ax0 mkiss install ax0 /bin/true # alias sp0 6pack install sp0 /bin/true alias slip0 slip alias sl0 slip alias slip1 slip alias sl1 slip

######################################################################## # the kernel 2.2 uses ppp.o as ppp driver, # the kernel 2.4 uses ppp_generic.o ########################################################################

alias ppp0 ppp_generic alias ppp1 ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async

alias plip0 plip alias plip1 plip

# Tunnel interfaces alias sit0 ipv6 alias gre0 ip_gre alias ipip0 ipip

alias ppp-compress-18 ppp_mppe alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

alias net-pf-1 unix alias net-pf-3 ax25 # install net-pf-3 /bin/true alias net-pf-4 ipx # install net-pf-4 /bin/true alias net-pf-5 appletalk # install net-pf-5 /bin/true alias net-pf-6 netrom # install net-pf-6 /bin/true alias net-pf-10 ipv6 # install net-pf-10 /bin/true alias net-pf-11 rose # install net-pf-11 /bin/true alias net-pf-17 af_packet alias net-pf-31 bluez

alias bt-proto-0 l2cap alias bt-proto-2 sco alias bt-proto-3 rfcomm alias bt-proto-4 bnep

alias md-personality-1 linear alias md-personality-2 raid0 alias md-personality-3 raid1 alias md-personality-4 raid5 alias md-personality-7 multipath

alias tap0 ethertap alias tap1 ethertap alias tap2 ethertap alias tap3 ethertap alias tap4 ethertap alias tap5 ethertap alias tap6 ethertap alias tap7 ethertap alias tap8 ethertap alias tap9 ethertap alias tap10 ethertap alias tap11 ethertap alias tap12 ethertap alias tap13 ethertap alias tap14 ethertap alias tap15 ethertap

# don't try to reset isa-pnp cards on startup options isa-pnp isapnp_reset=0

# end of common part for modprobe.conf # begin of i386 part for modprobe.conf

alias char-major-4 serial alias char-major-5 serial

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc # options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=none,none # If you have multiple parallel ports, specify them this way: # options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=none,none

# Linux ACP modem (Mwave) alias char-major-10-219 mwave # options mwave dspirq=10 dspio=0x130 uartirq=3 uartio=0x2f8

# nVidia nforce chipset (network + audio) alias eth0 8139too #alias sound-slot-1 nvaudio #alias usb-interface usb-ohci

# ALSA alias sound-slot-0 snd-ens1371 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-11 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss #

# IBM thinkpad tpctl # see /usr/share/doc/packages/tpctl/ alias char-major-10-170 thinkpad # options thinkpad enable_smapi=0

# Linux-ABI alias char-major-30 abi-ibcs alias binfmt-0004 binfmt_coff alias binfmt-332 abi-ibcs alias binfmt-518 abi-ibcs alias binfmt-002c abi-ibcs alias personality-1 abi-ibcs alias personality-2 abi-ibcs alias personality-3 abi-sco alias personality-4 abi-wyse alias personality-5 abi-ibcs alias personality-7 abi-ibcs alias personality-13 abi-solaris alias personality-14 abi-uw7 install binfmt_misc /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install binfmt_misc && { mount -t binfmt_misc none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc; } remove binfmt_misc { umount /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove binfmt_misc

# required for DRI support on SiS chips options sisfb mode=none mem=12288

######################################################################## # AGP ########################################################################

install mga { /sbin/modprobe -k agpgart; } ; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install mga install r128 { /sbin/modprobe -k agpgart; } ; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install r128 install radeon { /sbin/modprobe -k agpgart; } ; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install radeon options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1

# end of i386 part for modprobe.conf # please keep this at the end and add local modifications to modules.conf.local include /etc/modprobe.conf.local

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Morris (NTM)" To: "SuSE English" Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

On 11/14/2003 04:11 AM, Catimimi wrote:

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Do you mean that you are able to run alsa as modules ?

I am running alsa as modules with 2.6test9. As a matter of fact, I have had a small problem with alsa recognizing the fm port on my AWE64, and have replaced the included .9.7 alsa with .9.8, and last night with the cvs version. Modules are still working fine (though my FM port still has a problem, works with .9.0rc7)

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I never succeed and get unknown symbols error messages, and have to compile alsa in the kernel !

Something is wrong. I got my sources and precompiled kernel from pub/people/kraxel (though I have long since blown away the precompiled version).

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At the 4th line of /var/log/boot.msg I get : no module symbols loaded : kernel modules are not enabled ! Do you have that? if not is it due to kernel.org modutils ?

That sounds to me like the kernel config. Run make xconfig in your 2.6 source directory and make sure it is setup correctly. a snippet from my 2.6 config:

# # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y # CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set CONFIG_KMOD=y I maybe should add I am using the modutils for 8.2 from the same kernel source as above. HTH

Thanks for reply, My .config file is exactly like yours, I tried once again with kraxel kernel with the same result. All modules will load, except alsa !!! Did you check your /var/log/boot.msg file in order to see if you have the same message than me ? I would appreciate if you could do that and send me your full .config file. I don't understand, the alsa entries in modprobe.conf are the same than yours. BUT I use gcc3.3.1 could it be the reason? Thenks for your help. Michel.

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On 11/14/2003 11:14 PM, Alex Daniloff wrote:

I found it very interesting, I compiled ALSA as modules in the kernel, but sound didn't work, snd-cmipci module was bitching about unrecognized options in modprobe.conf. As soon as I commented out the options for snd-cmipci in /etc/modprobe.conf my sound start working like a charm. It looks like snd-cmipci module from the plain 2.6.0-test9 kernel doesn't understand customized options put by SuSE into original /etc/modules.conf file. Go figure...

Actually, ALSA changed the option labeling, dropping the snd_ before (i.e. snd_enable is now just enable). It isn't some SUSE thing, it was an ALSA thing, which according to their web site was for consistency with the kernel. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

Alex Daniloff [Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:19:23 -0800]:

As far as I concern, if SuSE didn't reflect ALSA changed labeling option in its /etc/modprobe.conf or modules.conf - it's a bug on SuSE's side.

Kernel 2.6.0 is clearly stated as being unsupported! That's why you can neither install nor configure it via YaST2. The 2.6.0 on the CD/DVD is there for the playful who know what they're dealing with and can handle the problems. Those who can't shouldn't blame SUSE for what was never stated as being supported. The next version of SUSE Linux will most probably support kernel 2.6.0. If it's *then* still not working, you would be right in calling it a bug. Philipp

The 2.6 modules are all .ko. SuSE 9.0 modutils has been modified to take care of that. Also 9.0 mkinitrd has been altered to strip off the .o or .ko, so it's able to cope with either. /sbin/generate-modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf did not give me a workable modprobe.conf, I had to edit the one that is part of SuSE 9.0 aaa_base-9.0-6 to add a line for my ethernet card.... alias eth0 8193too and cut and paste the alsa stuff from /etc/modules.conf, then all was well.......... alias sound-slot-0 snd-ens1371 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-11 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss Regards Sid. Donn aka n5xwb Washburn wrote:

Philipp Thomas wrote:

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Alex Daniloff [Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:19:23 -0800]:

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As far as I concern, if SuSE didn't reflect ALSA changed labeling option in its /etc/modprobe.conf or modules.conf - it's a bug on SuSE's side.

Kernel 2.6.0 is clearly stated as being unsupported! That's why you can neither install nor configure it via YaST2.

The 2.6.0 on the CD/DVD is there for the playful who know what they're dealing with and can handle the problems. Those who can't shouldn't blame SUSE for what was never stated as being supported.

The next version of SUSE Linux will most probably support kernel 2.6.0. If it's *then* still not working, you would be right in calling it a bug.

Philipp

I did compile a www.kernel.org version of 2.6.# and founds that the modules were file.lo and required the latest version of modutils. I might guess the reason 2.6 fails is that depmod/modprobe does deal with file.lo the same as file.o

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I'm surprised, it is in the 2.4.25 package in directory /sbin Anyway you can find it at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

Catimimi.

Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't using SuSE customized modutils. I always use plain modutils from kernel.org However, after I installed new modutis-init, everything goes honky dory. Alex

Hi Sid, I'm using module-init-tools from: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/ However, If you know where to get 9.0 modutils package, please drop me a link. I want to try it as well. Regards, Alex On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:14 am, Sid Boyce wrote:

Nice to hear you got it sorted. Are you now using the module-init-tools from kernel.org or the 9.0 modutils package? I didn't try module-init-tools as the 9.0 modutils seemed to be fine and I've in the past had to clear it all out and reinstall the SuSE package in order to be able to boot 2.4 kernels in 8.x. Regards Sid.

Alex Daniloff wrote:

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I'm surprised, it is in the 2.4.25 package in directory /sbin Anyway you can find it at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

Catimimi.

Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't using SuSE customized modutils. I always use plain modutils from kernel.org However, after I installed new modutis-init, everything goes honky dory.

Alex

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Sid Boyce wrote:

Looks like SuSE has caught up and modified their modutils package. The SuSE modutils package is on the 9.0 DVD and CD1, however, if module-init-tools work fine, I'd leave it as I've had problems in the past switching back and forth with the .old binaries not being found when booting 2.4 kernels .... inserting modules failed .... insmod.old - no such file type messages. Then the only solution was to remove the binaries from /sbin and reinstall the SuSE modutils - that was under 8.x. Regards Sid. If it is boot time you get some depmed newer or old time error message which comes after editing /etc/modules.conf - try running "depmod -a" This will correct the timestamp error message. Also try "modprobe \*" and then "lsmod".

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Is there a particular reason to send messages to the list -AND- also CC the list in the same message? -----Original Message----- From: jfweber To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Cc: Alex Daniloff , suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:17:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Daniloff" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:03 AM Subject: [SLE] Modutils for 2.6.0 kernels?

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Hello SuSE folks, Could somebody tell me please where I can get proper modutils for new 2.6.0-xx kernels? I need to generate /etc/modprobe.conf file, but generate-modprobe.conf script is not included with my current modutils-2.4.26-1 package. Many thanks in advance,

Alex

I'm surprised, it is in the 2.4.25 package in directory /sbin Anyway you can find it at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel

Catimimi.

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Hmmm, is there a " prebuilt" vanilla 2.6 version ? I'd like to play w/ it ,but just dont have time right now to futz w/ compiling my own. Test box is pretty plain a d ordiery box anyway. So there is no screaming need, either.

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