Ken Schneider - openSUSE said the following on 06/27/2013 09:33 AM:

On 06/27/2013 07:57 AM, Anton Aylward pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Over the w/e I converted my 12.2 desktop to 12.3 by the 'change the repository and zypper up' method. A few problems with kde4 that I don't think have to do with me - more n that later.

You need to use "zypper dup" to change distributions NOT "zypper up".

Ah. # zypper dup Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... Problem: libfolks-eds25-0.8.0-2.1.1.i586 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.17, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: libedataserver-1_2-17-3.6.3-1.2.1.i586[openSUSE_12.3-1.7] libedataserver-1_2-17-3.6.3-1.2.1.i586[repo-12.3-oss] libedataserver-1_2-17-3.6.3-1.5.1.i586[repo-12.3-update] libedataserver-1_2-17-3.6.4-1.11.1.i586[repo-12.3-update] Solution 1: keep obsolete libfolks-eds25-0.6.9-2.1.2.i586 Solution 2: do not forbid installation of evolution-data-server-3.6.4-1.11.1.i586[repo-12.3-update] Solution 3: do not forbid installation of evolution-data-server-3.6.3-1.5.1.i586[repo-12.3-update] Solution 4: do not forbid installation of evolution-data-server-3.6.3-1.2.1.i586[repo-12.3-oss] Solution 5: do not forbid installation of evolution-data-server-3.6.3-1.2.1.i586[openSUSE_12.3-1.7] Solution 6: break libfolks-eds25-0.8.0-2.1.1.i586 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/3/4/5/6/c] (c): I'm running KDE. Not Gnome. My email is read via Thunderbird. Not Evolution. I don't want Evolution. I don't want Telepathy. So I remove libfolks-eds25. Not for a 'up" I get a huge pile of stuff anfd what bothers me is this: The following packages are going to be downgraded: ca-certificates-mozilla ffmpeg gdb gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-farstream gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kde4-kgreeter-plugins kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-debuginfo kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle kdebase4-workspace-plasma-calendar kdelibs4 kdelibs4-core kdm kdm-branding-upstream ksshaskpass kwebkitpart kwebkitpart-debuginfo kwebkitpart-lang kwin liba52-0 libalkimia4 libavcodec54 libavdevice54 libavfilter3 libavformat54 libavutil51 libdca0 libexif12 libfaac0 libfaad2 libfarstream-0_1-0 libfreebl3 libHUpnp1 libjpeg8 libkde4 libkde4-debuginfo libkdecore4 libkgapi0 libksuseinstall1 libkvkontakte1 libmad0 libmp3lame0 libmpeg2-0 libmpeg2convert0 libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 libopenssl1_0_0 libopus0 libpostproc52 libqoauth1 libQtSolutions_SOAP-2_7-1 libraw5 libreoffice-templates-presentation-layouts libsoftokn3 libswresample0 libswscale2 libtwolame0 libupnp6 libvlc5 libvlccore5 libvpx1 libx264-125 libxvidcore4 MozillaFirefox mozilla-kde4-integration nepomuk-core openssl plasma-addons plasma-addons-lancelot plasmoid-quickaccess polkit-kde-agent-1 polkit-kde-kcmmodules-1 python-kdebase4 python-simplejson ristretto ristretto-lang rubygem-rack-1_1 rubygem-rdoc smartmontools twolame vlc vlc-codecs vlc-noX vlc-qt xfce4-mixer xfce4-mixer-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-mixer xine-ui xorg-x11-Xvnc Why oh why oh why jsut converting from 12.2 to 12.3 and I regressing in the same KDE and other stuff? Am I to tkae it that patches have been applied to 12.2 that haven't been applied to 12.3? That the 12/3 isn't being rebuilt/ WTF is going on here that all that stuff should regress? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/27/2013 10:49 AM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

* Anton Aylward [06-27-13 10:30]: [...]

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# zypper dup Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade...

Problem: libfolks-eds25-0.8.0-2.1.1.i586 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.17, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: [...] Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/3/4/5/6/c] (c):

I'm running KDE. Not Gnome. My email is read via Thunderbird. Not Evolution. I don't want Evolution. I don't want Telepathy.

So I remove libfolks-eds25.

not a problem as I see it, but tbird is packaged as a gnome/gtk app, iirc.

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Not for a 'up" I get a huge pile of stuff anfd what bothers me is this:

The following packages are going to be downgraded: ca-certificates-mozilla ffmpeg gdb gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad [...] Why oh why oh why jsut converting from 12.2 to 12.3 and I regressing in the same KDE and other stuff?

Am I to tkae it that patches have been applied to 12.2 that haven't been applied to 12.3? That the 12/3 isn't being rebuilt/

WTF is going on here that all that stuff should regress?

Not necessarily regressions but *probably* patches that were not necessary for 12.3. Remember 12.3 is *not* 12.2, and has different packages and requirements. Also remember that *everything* is not back-ported. :^)

And remember that 12.2 version numbers <> 12.3 version numbers. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer said the following on 06/27/2013 10:59 AM:

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:

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The following packages are going to be downgraded: ca-certificates-mozilla ffmpeg gdb gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad gstreamer-0_10-plugins-farstream gstreamer-0_10-plugins-ugly kde4-kgreeter-plugins kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-debuginfo kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle kdebase4-workspace-plasma-calendar kdelibs4 kdelibs4-core kdm kdm-branding-upstream ksshaskpass kwebkitpart kwebkitpart-debuginfo kwebkitpart-lang kwin liba52-0 libalkimia4 libavcodec54 libavdevice54 libavfilter3 libavformat54 libavutil51 libdca0 libexif12 libfaac0 libfaad2 libfarstream-0_1-0 libfreebl3 libHUpnp1 libjpeg8 libkde4 libkde4-debuginfo libkdecore4 libkgapi0 libksuseinstall1 libkvkontakte1 libmad0 libmp3lame0 libmpeg2-0 libmpeg2convert0 libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 libopenssl1_0_0 libopus0 libpostproc52 libqoauth1 libQtSolutions_SOAP-2_7-1 libraw5 libreoffice-templates-presentation-layouts libsoftokn3 libswresample0 libswscale2 libtwolame0 libupnp6 libvlc5 libvlccore5 libvpx1 libx264-125 libxvidcore4 MozillaFirefox mozilla-kde4-integration nepomuk-core openssl plasma-addons plasma-addons-lancelot plasmoid-quickaccess polkit-kde-agent-1 polkit-kde-kcmmodules-1 python-kdebase4 python-simplejson ristretto ristretto-lang rubygem-rack-1_1 rubygem-rdoc smartmontools twolame vlc vlc-codecs vlc-noX vlc-qt xfce4-mixer xfce4-mixer-lang xfce4-panel-plugin-mixer xine-ui xorg-x11-Xvnc

Why oh why oh why jsut converting from 12.2 to 12.3 and I regressing in the same KDE and other stuff?

When I did the same as you with a recent factory milestone, I noticed the same "problem".

I used zypper se -s <package-of-interest> to see what my current versions were and what the downgrade was.

I did actually find a couple packages that were a true downgrade, the rest were "point" release downgrades, where the "point" release was not part of the upstream version number, but were a add-on suffix created by OBS (opensuse build service). The OBS point release is not well controlled between the various repos, so doesn't mean much that there is a small drop in that point release number. You definitely want the versions from the 12.3 repos.

Greg

I follow your rasoning, but when I zypper dup --from "KDE:Release:410" I get this The following packages are going to change vendor: branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE grub2-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE kdebase4-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE ksplash-qml-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE ksplashx-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE plymouth-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE susegreeter-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE wallpaper-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE What you say makes me think it should be the other way round. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org