[opensuse] Excellent news: VirtualBox full virtualization OSS solution for Linux!
hi susers! At last ! The virtualization revolution in Linux happens ! Until now, Linux had no quality virtualization available. At least no OSS solution existed, that is also user-friendly. Yesterday the world changed with the introduction of Innotek's VirtualBox (dual-licensed under GPL and proprietary license). This solution feels like professional VirtualPC/VMware Workstation: allows full integration of guest OSes (mouse pointer, etc...), works with Linux and Windows 2000/XP guests and hosts, and has a nice Qt3-based GUI. And it's Free ! Unfortunately AMD64 arch and Win9x OS are not supported at all. Not host and not guest. This solution is *much* more stable than Qemu/Xen/Bochs whatever the OSS world has today. (through it's still less stable than MS Virtual PC 2004) It is also *very* fast: Windows 2000 Guest installed & run faster than under VMware/VirtualPC. So please try it, if you like VMware and emulators in general. I seriously want this solution to be included in the main repository for openSUSE 10.3. Such high-quality OSS software, developed by a commercial company is a real rarity and a big asset for our community. First commercial/OSS x86 emulator for Linux - VirtualBox 1.3.2 !!! http://www.virtualbox.org/ http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_fedora_centos_opensuse http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes benchmark VirtualBox vs Qemu+KQemu vs VMware http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=56 What do you think of it? -Alexey Eremenko. 7.2.2007. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2/7/07, Alexey Eremenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
hi susers!
At last ! The virtualization revolution in Linux happens !
Until now, Linux had no quality virtualization available. At least no OSS solution existed, that is also user-friendly.
Yesterday the world changed with the introduction of Innotek's VirtualBox (dual-licensed under GPL and proprietary license).
This solution feels like professional VirtualPC/VMware Workstation: allows full integration of guest OSes (mouse pointer, etc...), works with Linux and Windows 2000/XP guests and hosts, and has a nice Qt3-based GUI. And it's Free ! Unfortunately AMD64 arch and Win9x OS are not supported at all. Not host and not guest. This solution is *much* more stable than Qemu/Xen/Bochs whatever the OSS world has today. (through it's still less stable than MS Virtual PC 2004) It is also *very* fast: Windows 2000 Guest installed & run faster than under VMware/VirtualPC.
So please try it, if you like VMware and emulators in general. I seriously want this solution to be included in the main repository for openSUSE 10.3. Such high-quality OSS software, developed by a commercial company is a real rarity and a big asset for our community.
First commercial/OSS x86 emulator for Linux - VirtualBox 1.3.2 !!! http://www.virtualbox.org/ http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_fedora_centos_opensuse http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes
benchmark VirtualBox vs Qemu+KQemu vs VMware http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=56
What do you think of it?
-Alexey Eremenko. 7.2.2007. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
This does look really interesting. I am using VMware right now and I am very happy with it, but I am going to give this a try in the near future. Thanks.
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Le Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2007, Alexey Eremenko a écrit :
Yesterday the world changed with the introduction of Innotek's VirtualBox (dual-licensed under GPL and proprietary license).
Did you successfully build it from the sources? Here it could not find some linux header files :( -- Gruß Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 February 2007 16:38, Andreas wrote:
Le Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2007, Alexey Eremenko a écrit :
Yesterday the world changed with the introduction of Innotek's VirtualBox (dual-licensed under GPL and proprietary license).
I don't think it changed the world, but it's sure going to be a great change
Did you successfully build it from the sources? Here it could not find some linux header files :(
-- Gruß Andreas
What header files does it say you are missing, also did you download from SVN or did you download the "All Distributions" installation? -- Ben Kevan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:12:07 +0100, Alexey Eremenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
So please try it, if you like VMware and emulators in general. I seriously want this solution to be included in the main repository for openSUSE 10.3. Such high-quality OSS software, developed by a commercial company is a real rarity and a big asset for our community.
Tried it.. Anybody got the usb part of VirtualBox working on Suse? Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google.. Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 2007-02-09 16:45:33 +0100, Kjartan Geble Olsen wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:12:07 +0100, Alexey Eremenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
So please try it, if you like VMware and emulators in general. I seriously want this solution to be included in the main repository for openSUSE 10.3. Such high-quality OSS software, developed by a commercial company is a real rarity and a big asset for our community.
Tried it..
Anybody got the usb part of VirtualBox working on Suse? Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google..
Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice.
I built an rpm for virtualbox which can be found here http://repos.opensuse.org/virtualization/ These packages are based on a svn snapshot from 20070203. Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
My boss ask me to lock msn. My answer was to fire this guy, but... ANyway I found some interesting way to do it: blockink port 1863 and using squid to prevent acces on port 80 for those pesty M$ server. But I can figure out how to block that port using 1863. Anybody knows? Thanks. -- André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
André Malin wrote:
My boss ask me to lock msn. My answer was to fire this guy, but... ANyway I found some interesting way to do it: blockink port 1863 and using squid to prevent acces on port 80 for those pesty M$ server. But I can figure out how to block that port using 1863.
We use a different approach - set up dns zones on our dns servers for all the sites we don't want people to reach - msn, aim, etc all have dummy dns zones for which we declare ourselves authoritative internally, and populated with dns records which will not allow them to look up and connect to the services. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 February 2007 04:47, J Sloan wrote:
We use a different approach - set up dns zones on our dns servers for all the sites we don't want people to reach - msn, aim, etc all have dummy dns zones for which we declare ourselves authoritative internally, and populated with dns records which will not allow them to look up and connect to the services.
Hey, this is a slick trick Joe! I'll try it out ;) Many thanks! -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 1:39pm up 5:05, 2.6.16.21-0.8-default GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org
Hello Marcus . . . Thanks - great ...................... On SuSE 10.2 am having a prob getting started : when I try to Start VirtualBox, am getting error:- ________________ VirtualBox kernel driver not accessible, permission problem. VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE). Result Code: 0x80004005 Component: Console Interface: IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45} ____________ How to Shoot this Prob, please ? thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
hi all !
On SuSE 10.2 am having a prob getting started : when I try to Start VirtualBox, am getting error:- ________________
VirtualBox kernel driver not accessible, permission problem. VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE).
Troubleshooting - Read here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ The speed is excellent, I used the standard proprietary binary version "all distros", but my friend successfully compiled an OSS version from SVN. USB is only supported with proprietary version, not the OSS one. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
xOn Fri, 2007-02-09 at 16:45 +0100, Kjartan Geble Olsen wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:12:07 +0100, Alexey Eremenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
So please try it, if you like VMware and emulators in general. I seriously want this solution to be included in the main repository for openSUSE 10.3. Such high-quality OSS software, developed by a commercial company is a real rarity and a big asset for our community.
Tried it..
Anybody got the usb part of VirtualBox working on Suse?
It seems that only the commercial version has usb support, as well access to local file systems. There are rumblings of adding some of this to the open source version. Nothing definite.
Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google..
Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice.
How was the speed? Did it require kernel modules? I would imagine so. At least on SUSE where the kernel is before 2.6.20 with the new virtualization support. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:21:30 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> wrote:
It seems that only the commercial version has usb support, as well access to local file systems. There are rumblings of adding some of this to the open source version. Nothing definite.
Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google..
Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice.
How was the speed? Did it require kernel modules? I would imagine so. At least on SUSE where the kernel is before 2.6.20 with the new virtualization support.
Speed seems to be good, I didn't really notice any significant slowdown compared to a real pc. No kernel modules required on 2.6.18. As far as I understand it usb is supported, but not with a deafult usbfs config on Suse..? -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kjartan Geble Olsen wrote:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:21:30 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> wrote:
It seems that only the commercial version has usb support, as well access to local file systems. There are rumblings of adding some of this to the open source version. Nothing definite.
Usb/Suse/VM seems to be a bit difficult judging by google..
Other than that it looks (and behave) really nice.
How was the speed? Did it require kernel modules? I would imagine so. At least on SUSE where the kernel is before 2.6.20 with the new virtualization support.
Speed seems to be good, I didn't really notice any significant slowdown compared to a real pc. No kernel modules required on 2.6.18. As far as I understand it usb is supported, but not with a deafult usbfs config on Suse..?
--The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² --To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Or maybe it's that USB is supported in the closed source version, and not in the open source version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 February 2007 23:40:53 Jan Karjalainen wrote:
Or maybe it's that USB is supported in the closed source version, and not in the open source version.
That was what I was trying to say. Same for local file system access. And a few other items of less importance to me. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:26:11 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> wrote:
On Friday 09 February 2007 23:40:53 Jan Karjalainen wrote:
Or maybe it's that USB is supported in the closed source version, and not in the open source version.
That was what I was trying to say. Same for local file system access. And a few other items of less importance to me.
The version I have tried is the binary only, which is the full version.. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It has just been updated to v1.3.4 which resolves many bugs and several crashes. -Alexey Eremenko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Alexey Eremenko -
Andreas -
André Malin -
Ben Kevan -
Fajar Priyanto -
George Stoianov -
J Sloan -
Jan Karjalainen -
Kjartan Geble Olsen -
Marcus Hüwe -
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Roger Oberholtzer