It would appear that on Sep 20, Constant Brouerius van Nidek did say:

On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:09:26 AM you wrote:

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It would appear that on Sep 17, Constant Brouerius van Nidek did say:

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On Friday, September 16, 2011 11:54:40 AM JoePhilbrook wrote: ==================== BIG snip ====================

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Hope this helps!

This helps. No insult ;). I do know how and where to find the menu.lst but the finding out where the grub is installed is important in order to change drives and such. No grub2 yet. And grub was always something that never gave big problems so I never looked into the details.

Well if you mean your not sure which mbr or partition superblock the bootstrap part of which loader is initialized from... All I can say is: "good luck with that" Of course if that's the issue, once you know where the "/boot/grub" directories in question are located then you could use the bigger hammer approach and "decide" where you want them, using something like supper grub if necessary to "install" them to the mbr(s) and/or partitions you desire them to be on now...

By the way, had you intended to send only a personally email reply? I ask cause I didn't see your message on the list itself...

Have a good one!

Thanks for your email. It was originally meant for the list but I send you this as a personal response. Due to inconsistencies of the newest kmail the email went to you direct. Sorry.

Nothing to be sorry for... I just know that depending on the different behavior of various email clients, and the difference of opinion it seems different email list owners seem to have on "Reply-To:" munging, It's easy to send a private message to group by mistake and or unintentionally deprive the group the benefit of any useful info that might have been included in a thread that was accidentally taken offlist. So since you didn't say it was private I thought I'd give you a heads up. And since you say it was a kmail error, I'll use the "power of Alpine" ;-) to reattach this to the list...

Did not see it. A good idea how problematic kmail can work is, that my response to you direct got the opensuse address instead(which I had to correct by hand ;) )

Like I said above. Some email clients make that kind of error easy. Though to be honest, any email client can reattach a reply to a list. The beauty or "power" of Alpine is that it makes it easy to see what it's going to do, which gives one a chance to nip such goofs in the bud...

You are right, I am not sure which MBR or partition superblock the bootstrap is initialized from.

Lucky guess.

When I change the booting from hd 0 to hd1 the booting does not start. When I change it to hd 2 I get a windows xp boot. If I disable all boot information it still starts as normal. Have the feeling that the MBR from disk 0 is where the bootstrap is initialized from.

My logic says that's likely. And {unless the "hd1" not starting means a grub tried to start but failed because it somehow depended on the boot order of the drives to find stage 2 etc...} then I think you've already demonstrated that the secondary grubs are likely installed to superblock. Though that could be determined (at least for your kde system) by looking at the chainloader title in that primary boot menu.lst. In any case it shouldn't hurt to boot the other Linux that I think you said gets booted directly from the primary grub... then check to see if it's got viable looking /boot & /boot/grub directories. If it does you might consider telling it's grub to install to superblock (it's own root partition) to make chain loading it an easy alternative once you have a working grub using the new hd0 mbr to bootstrap from...

That is also the disk I want to swap which started my original question. This would be the second time I will change this drive and I cannot remember how I got my system up and running again. Most probably with supergrub.

If your comfortable with supergrub that's a good way to go. Another choice would depend on what the replacement hd0 will have on it. If I was going to replace my primary boot drive, with something having enough available space on it, I think I'd consider giving one of those minimalistic cli only "tiny" Linux distros a small partition for the express purpose of providing a new primary bootloader with it's own small footprint Linux for a configuration tool. And then I'd replicate the old primary boot/grub within it adding a non-default title to start the "tiny" Linux. At least I'd find out how small a partition one of those "small" Linux actually needed... {just an idea} In any case "Have a lot of fun!" ;-7 -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <<jtwdyp@ttlc.net>> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org