Hi everybody.... I am using KDE 3.0.x not yet 3.1 and SuSE Linux 8.1 . I have written a web enabling database application with PHP4. The users use the application with internet browser mozilla. My boss said that his sellers may only use the internet browser for the database application. So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out). Is it possible with KDE 3.0.x? Do I have to upgrade 3.1 ? Thank you very much in advance. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 15:54, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Hi everybody....
I am using KDE 3.0.x not yet 3.1 and SuSE Linux 8.1 .
I have written a web enabling database application with PHP4. The users use the application with internet browser mozilla.
My boss said that his sellers may only use the internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
Is it possible with KDE 3.0.x? Do I have to upgrade 3.1 ?
Since your using mozilla kde doesn't come into it. I had a go at doing what you described and was partially successful. I edited ~/.xinitrc to change the line exec $WINDOWMANAGER to /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla -- -geometry 1280x1024-0-0 and altered ~/.bashrc so that the last line said "exit" The idea being that when that user logged in they got mozilla, instead of a window manager, and mozilla would be opened up to fill the screen. When mozilla died a shell would appear, don't ask me why, but by adding "exit" to ~/.bashrc it disappears. With nothing left to do the xserver shut down. The only problem is that mozilla didn't fill the screen, anybody know why? - -- Richard Fletcher, Sheffield, UK. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+QULgFv+mlSC+6l4RAvHpAJ9lGfKGsinbYOcFloyljdSDY7SbdACeOhYL 92OrM750L1cQ9Uptj+Mq/fA= =+9xP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Op woensdag 5 februari 2003 16:54, schreef Prabu Subroto:
Hi everybody....
I am using KDE 3.0.x not yet 3.1 and SuSE Linux 8.1 .
I have written a web enabling database application with PHP4. The users use the application with internet browser mozilla.
My boss said that his sellers may only use the internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
http://dot.kde.org In one of the 1st articles kde-kiosk is mentioned. The explanation there is the best that is available at the moment. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Richard Bos wrote:
e internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
http://dot.kde.org In one of the 1st articles kde-kiosk is mentioned. The explanation there is the best that is available at the moment.
Just a thought.. But why use KDE at all at that point? Just have the user login, and exec mozilla from a xinitrc file or something.. No need to run all the kde "stuff" if all you need is a browser... Take care- Jim
Hi..James....
Yes, you are right...
Please tell me more detail how can I got only the
login shell and without any xwindows I can launch the
mozilla.
Please tell me.
TAC.
--- James Bonnet
Richard Bos wrote:
e internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
http://dot.kde.org In one of the 1st articles kde-kiosk is mentioned. The explanation there is the best that is available at the moment.
Just a thought.. But why use KDE at all at that point? Just have the user login, and exec mozilla from a xinitrc file or something.. No need to run all the kde "stuff" if all you need is a browser...
Take care- Jim
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Ufff.....do you have any other solutions to lock each
component of KDE accept mozilla launcher on the
dekstop?
--- Richard Fletcher
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On Wednesday 05 February 2003 15:54, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Hi everybody....
I am using KDE 3.0.x not yet 3.1 and SuSE Linux 8.1 .
I have written a web enabling database application with PHP4. The users use the application with internet browser mozilla.
My boss said that his sellers may only use the internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
Is it possible with KDE 3.0.x? Do I have to upgrade 3.1 ?
Since your using mozilla kde doesn't come into it. I had a go at doing what you described and was partially successful.
I edited ~/.xinitrc to change the line exec $WINDOWMANAGER to /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla -- -geometry 1280x1024-0-0
and altered ~/.bashrc so that the last line said "exit"
The idea being that when that user logged in they got mozilla, instead of a window manager, and mozilla would be opened up to fill the screen. When mozilla died a shell would appear, don't ask me why, but by adding "exit" to ~/.bashrc it disappears. With nothing left to do the xserver shut down.
The only problem is that mozilla didn't fill the screen, anybody know why?
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On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:23, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Ufff.....do you have any other solutions to lock each component of KDE accept mozilla launcher on the dekstop?
If mozilla is all you need, why do you want to run KDE at all? Why isn't Richard's solution right for you? What's missing?
You meant our friend Richard Bos?
Yes, he's right. But I still don't understand how I
start to do locking.
OK, I will try to use APT from Erlangen University as
Richard suggested. But now, I am still confused to do
KDE Locking.
I think we need an XWindows (window manager) to launch
mozilla. Am I wrong? Please tell me.
Is it possible to launch mozilla without XWindows?
How?
--- Anders Johansson
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:23, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Ufff.....do you have any other solutions to lock each component of KDE accept mozilla launcher on the dekstop?
If mozilla is all you need, why do you want to run KDE at all? Why isn't Richard's solution right for you? What's missing?
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On Thursday 06 February 2003 05:57 am, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Hi..James....
Yes, you are right...
Please tell me more detail how can I got only the login shell and without any xwindows I can launch the mozilla.
Please tell me.
You would still need X, you just don't need any window manager. All you need is a minimal .xinitrc for each user, which should look something like this: ===== #!/bin/bash # exec /opt/mozilla/mozilla -width 1024 -height 768 # call failsafe exit 0 ===== You can adjust the width and height parameters to suit your display resolution. Having deployed publically-accesible web-based kiosk systems, though, I would suggest looking into using Galeon instead of Mozilla for the simple reason that Galeon can be started in fullscreen mode automatically.
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 14:37, Prabu Subroto wrote:
You meant our friend Richard Bos?
No, I meant Richard Fletcher, the author of the mail you were replying to. He suggested a solution that seems to me to be perfectly valid. I was wondering why you thought that was "Ufff"
Dear my friend Anders...
"Ufff" I meant to complicated for me.
But I thank you so much my friend. Also to Richard.
Finally, I took decision on using fvwm2 which is far
better in Kiosk. An it is solved.
Thank you very much.
--- Anders Johansson
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 14:37, Prabu Subroto wrote:
You meant our friend Richard Bos?
No, I meant Richard Fletcher, the author of the mail you were replying to. He suggested a solution that seems to me to be perfectly valid. I was wondering why you thought that was "Ufff"
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I did it, thanks my friend.
I used fvwm2 and I did locking perfectly and also did
your suggestion.
Thanks my friend.
--- Scott Jones
Hi..James....
Yes, you are right...
Please tell me more detail how can I got only the login shell and without any xwindows I can launch
On Thursday 06 February 2003 05:57 am, Prabu Subroto wrote: the
mozilla.
Please tell me.
You would still need X, you just don't need any window manager.
All you need is a minimal .xinitrc for each user, which should look something like this:
=====
#!/bin/bash # exec /opt/mozilla/mozilla -width 1024 -height 768
# call failsafe exit 0
=====
You can adjust the width and height parameters to suit your display resolution.
Having deployed publically-accesible web-based kiosk systems, though, I would suggest looking into using Galeon instead of Mozilla for the simple reason that Galeon can be started in fullscreen mode automatically.
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On Wednesday 05 February 2003 16:59, Richard Fletcher wrote:
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On Wednesday 05 February 2003 15:54, Prabu Subroto wrote:
Hi everybody....
I am using KDE 3.0.x not yet 3.1 and SuSE Linux 8.1 .
I have written a web enabling database application with PHP4. The users use the application with internet browser mozilla.
My boss said that his sellers may only use the internet browser for the database application.
So how can I lock everything in KDE 3.0.x ? I want after the user login, the mozilla will be automatically launched. I also want if they close the mozilla than the user will be automatically kicked out (log out).
Is it possible with KDE 3.0.x? Do I have to upgrade 3.1 ?
Since your using mozilla kde doesn't come into it. I had a go at doing what you described and was partially successful.
I edited ~/.xinitrc to change the line exec $WINDOWMANAGER to /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla -- -geometry 1280x1024-0-0
and altered ~/.bashrc so that the last line said "exit"
The idea being that when that user logged in they got mozilla, instead of a window manager, and mozilla would be opened up to fill the screen. When mozilla died a shell would appear, don't ask me why, but by adding "exit" to ~/.bashrc it disappears. With nothing left to do the xserver shut down.
The only problem is that mozilla didn't fill the screen, anybody know why?
Yep, there's a problem with mozilla not obeying the --geometry instruction. I
wrangled with this for some time before realising it wasn't me at fault. You
can get into and edit the file .mozilla/default/[strangenumber].slt/
localstore.rdf and change the resolution, though - if you then make that file
read only, mozilla will start at the appropriate size even if your punters
have found a way to alter the size.
You're looking for lines like this:
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On Thursday 23 October 2003 03:04, Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 16:59, Richard Fletcher wrote:
The only problem is that mozilla didn't fill the screen, anybody know why?
Yep, there's a problem with mozilla not obeying the --geometry instruction.
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You can fix other things directly in this file too, although they can just as easily be fixed by choosing the options in the running application and then making the file read only.
No doubt there are much better ways, but that's the workaround I blundered across,
This just happened to catch my eye, as I've otherwise been ignoring the thread. Speaking from experience, Moz is a royal PITA to set up for a kiosk system. I have deployed publically-accessable limited-purpose kiosks using SuSE, and ended up using Galeon, which handles fullscreen nicely, as well as sticking to the geometry given it. I used the Kiosk-HOWTO as a basic guideline, modified to fit my needs. If anyone is interested, I think I might be able to dig up my old notes. -- Homepage http://scott.exti.net XFce desktop environment http://www.xfce.org Goodies for the XFce desktop http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de
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