Re: [SLE] secondary distro's
I guess I should define playing! I am very happy with Suse, and switched to it from Mandrake (after that whole Linux Format bad cd fiasco). I am wanting to learn more about Linux in general, and get more comfortable with NONRPM based distro's. The reasons for my three choices were Gentoo makes me learn more about Linux's base (how to do things from scratch) and gives me experience with another "package manager" (emerge). Knoppix and Ubuntu teaches me about debian and apt. I am not comfortable enough now to switch from one to another, and would eventually like to be. I've been on Suse since 9.0 (just went 10) and it works and is stable, the only reason I still have a Windows machine is for the games.
On 11/15/05, lerninlinux@comcast.net
wrote: I have Suse 10 installed, and have a secondary machine I was looking to install another distro for playing/learning. What are your other used distro's?
I was looking at Gentoo, Knoppix, and Ubuntu.
TIA
Ubuntu is very easy to install and get it working. If you need to have easy setup of a good workstation, go for it. I'm not sure about "playing" with it :)
If you really want to try to grasp "linux", what is where, how the stuff compiles, etc., you may go with Gentoo, or Linux from Scratch. Now, this is a "playing" :)
Cheers Sunny
-- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)
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On 11/16/05, lerninlinux@comcast.net
I guess I should define playing! I am very happy with Suse, and switched to it from Mandrake (after that whole Linux Format bad cd fiasco). I am wanting to learn more about Linux in general, and get more comfortable with NONRPM based distro's. The reasons for my three choices were Gentoo makes me learn more about Linux's base (how to do things from scratch) and gives me experience with another "package manager" (emerge). Knoppix and Ubuntu teaches me about debian and apt. I am not comfortable enough now to switch from one to another, and would eventually like to be. I've been on Suse since 9.0 (just went 10) and it works and is stable, the only reason I still have a Windows machine is for the games.
I have used Fedora, Ubuntu, and Knoppix. I've used some Unix OSs, too. I'm relatively new to SuSE. I'll recommend a slightly less extreme first step... Pick one of your favorite programs that you use on SuSE, or even one that you don't use yet, and download the latest version in a tarball. Then compile it and make it run from your home directory. That's a good start and it's a method that works for all of the distros (I think).
From what I have heard, you'll be doing a lot of compiling on Gentoo or Slackware :)
For the ones that work as documented in the generic instructions, you can do something like this and it'll all work: ./configure --prefix=/home/sloncho make make install That often works, but the learning starts when it doesn't. If you get error messages, read them carefully. They might look like junk, but they actually mean something. They usually have file names and line numbers. Look up all of the error messages in Google. One of the biggest differences between the Linux world and that horrible place without penguins is software installation. You don't usually install programs on Linux in the same way. You compile them for your system. If you're using an RPM, someone did the compiling for you on a system just like yours. I've used Apt, Debian's (and Ubuntu's) package manager. I don't really know how that works, but I believe the concept is similar. There's not a lot to learn there... just click the check-boxes for the software you want to install. Have fun :) -- Vince
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On 11/21/05, Vincente Aggrippino
On 11/16/05, lerninlinux@comcast.net
wrote: I guess I should define playing! I am very happy with Suse, and switched to it from Mandrake (after that whole Linux Format bad cd fiasco). I am wanting to learn more about Linux in general, and get more comfortable with NONRPM based distro's. The reasons for my three choices were Gentoo makes me learn more about Linux's base (how to do things from scratch) and gives me experience with another "package manager" (emerge). Knoppix and Ubuntu teaches me about debian and apt. I am not comfortable enough now to switch from one to another, and would eventually like to be. I've been on Suse since 9.0 (just went 10) and it works and is stable, the only reason I still have a Windows machine is for the games.
I have used Fedora, Ubuntu, and Knoppix. I've used some Unix OSs, too. I'm relatively new to SuSE.
I'll recommend a slightly less extreme first step... Pick one of your favorite programs that you use on SuSE, or even one that you don't use yet, and download the latest version in a tarball. Then compile it and make it run from your home directory. That's a good start and it's a method that works for all of the distros (I think).
From what I have heard, you'll be doing a lot of compiling on Gentoo or Slackware :)
For the ones that work as documented in the generic instructions, you can do something like this and it'll all work:
./configure --prefix=/home/sloncho
Use this instead. Otherwise, it'll really compile in your home directory... ./configure --prefix=/home/sloncho/program_name make
make install
That often works, but the learning starts when it doesn't. If you get error messages, read them carefully. They might look like junk, but they actually mean something. They usually have file names and line numbers. Look up all of the error messages in Google.
One of the biggest differences between the Linux world and that horrible place without penguins is software installation. You don't usually install programs on Linux in the same way. You compile them for your system. If you're using an RPM, someone did the compiling for you on a system just like yours. I've used Apt, Debian's (and Ubuntu's) package manager. I don't really know how that works, but I believe the concept is similar. There's not a lot to learn there... just click the check-boxes for the software you want to install.
Have fun :)
-- Vince
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