[opensuse] KDE Stable (4.4) to Factory (4.5)
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror). Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating? -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, September 03, 2010 07:29:55 am John Andersen wrote:
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
in my case, the stable repos were within openSUSE's OSS. difficult to remove, no? i just added the 4.5 -- now better use 4.5.1 -- repos and told yast to switch everything to that one. worked flawlessly. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, September 03, 2010 07:29:55 am John Andersen wrote:
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
of course, if you explicitly added 4.4 repos, you'll have to remove or disable them. disabling may be better in case something does go wrong -- hardware related or whatever. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:40 +0200, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Just to be clear, step 5 should happen after step 3 and before step 4, right? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 September 2010 10:47:46 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:40 +0200, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Just to be clear, step 5 should happen after step 3 and before step 4, right?
Darn, I wrote 'before you upgrade' instead of 'before you relogin'. If you follow the steps in order, knetworkmanager will still be running and functional even after its package has been replaced with the Network Management applet, so the order stands. If you do do 5 before 3 you would have to quit KNM and add the NM applet, and a relogin is the easiest way to do this. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:56 +0200, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 10:47:46 Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 10:40 +0200, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Just to be clear, step 5 should happen after step 3 and before step 4, right?
Darn, I wrote 'before you upgrade' instead of 'before you relogin'. If you
That was the source of the confusion. Thx for the clarification. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
Will, A point of clarification, please - The above msg refs using Factory for 4.5.0, and that upgrade went fine. However, since this is Factory, the packages will continue changing, apparently most are now at 4.5.1. Should not the user expect that there could be incompatibilities or dependency issues since Factory is always in flux? That is, Factory is not like a release where the packages are tested in the aggregrate as a uniform set. I wonder if, since Factory has moved on beyond 4.5.0, it wouldn't be better to wait for a semi-official 4.5.0 spin? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri 03 Sep 2010 at 12:02:49 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
Will,
A point of clarification, please -
The above msg refs using Factory for 4.5.0, and that upgrade went fine. However, since this is Factory, the packages will continue changing, apparently most are now at 4.5.1. Should not the user expect that there could be incompatibilities or dependency issues since Factory is always in flux? That is, Factory is not like a release where the packages are tested in the aggregrate as a uniform set.
I wonder if, since Factory has moved on beyond 4.5.0, it wouldn't be better to wait for a semi-official 4.5.0 spin?
Sorry to be (may be) going off thread: Why zypper dup asks to change all my GNOME pkgs arch. from x86_64 to i586 if I attempt to do a distro upgrade against KDE4.5 repos, which I set to lower priority? I mean: why GNOME depends upon KDE? (using openSUSE 11.2) TKS, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> I don't mind how much my Ministers talk, so long as they do what I say. -- Margaret Thatcher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 September 2010 17:02:49 dwgallien wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex
Will,
A point of clarification, please -
The above msg refs using Factory for 4.5.0, and that upgrade went fine. However, since this is Factory, the packages will continue changing, apparently most are now at 4.5.1. Should not the user expect that there could be incompatibilities or dependency issues since Factory is always in flux? That is, Factory is not like a release where the packages are tested in the aggregrate as a uniform set.
I wonder if, since Factory has moved on beyond 4.5.0, it wouldn't be better to wait for a semi-official 4.5.0 spin?
We're going to be making a KDE:Release:4.5 repo and an 11.3 respin based on it. Soon. Both will be 4.5.1 based. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/3/2010 1:40 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Will
Your missive was too late, but the result was that the whole thing went swimmingly. I just used Yast (sorry zypper fans). Added the new repos, switched system packages to the new repos, did the upgrade logged out and in again and it was all good. Wiget management is a lot better. Adding a wiget could be clearer for first time users if it just said to Double click to Add this Widget. Still getting occasional paint bugs when hover windows or notifications are removed from the screen. Big gaping hole in the image which usually requires that I contrive to cause an entire screen repaint to get rid of it. But thats been around for several releases and is probably my ATI Radeon driver in the laptop, (although I've seen it in Vmware too). -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 September 2010 21:30:19 John Andersen wrote:
On 9/3/2010 1:40 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2010 03:59:55 John Andersen wrote:
Since 4.5 is getting good reports I think I will make this move from my relatively virgin 11.3 install. (unless someone jumps up and screams in horror).
Do I Remove the stable repositories, leave them there with lower priority? Do I do this after or before updating?
I assume you by 'stable repositories' you mean KDE:Distro:Stable - if so, remove them before updating
Step by step instructions from vanilla 11.3 are here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-08/msg00057.html
Will
Your missive was too late, but the result was that the whole thing went swimmingly.
I just used Yast (sorry zypper fans). Added the new repos, switched system packages to the new repos, did the upgrade logged out and in again and it was all good.
Wiget management is a lot better. Adding a wiget could be clearer for first time users if it just said to Double click to Add this Widget.
Glad you like it. How about suggesting that at bugs.kde.org?
Still getting occasional paint bugs when hover windows or notifications are removed from the screen. Big gaping hole in the image which usually requires that I contrive to cause an entire screen repaint to get rid of it. But thats been around for several releases and is probably my ATI Radeon driver in the laptop, (although I've seen it in Vmware too).
It's a known issue with several drivers that when using ARGB (transparent) windows, eg any Plasma popup, in some circumstances, the clear for that window happens at the wrong coordinates, bashing a hole in an innocent bit of screen. (Takes me back to writing games on the Amiga :)). Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/3/2010 12:47 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:
Wiget management is a lot better. Adding a wiget could be clearer for first time users if it just said to Double click to Add this Widget.
Glad you like it. How about suggesting that at bugs.kde.org?
Done https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250106 I accidentally draged a widget (tray) off the panel, and there is no way to drag it back on. So I deleted it, and spent 5 minutes trying to add it back to the panel. So probably should have done two bug reports. -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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