Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them? TIA Greg Hicks
Hi Greg It took me three years to get anywhere near it and even now I'm scared. In the SuSE 6.2 days it was all jargon. I remember one poor guy who wanted to get his usb scanner working. You are lucky to be in at the 7.3 level. The list is ruthless, accepts no nonsense and is the best list in the world. Got a problem? They'll help you forever. If you tell them that you are a newbie then won't say dmake libgrep.so /dev/hda at all. It's the only way you can learn. The learning curve is very steep to begin with. Start with the manual that comes with the SuSE cd's. It's written in plain german english. It never says 'as stated above' nor 'as we have already seen'. It never says 'methodology design philolosphy strategy' although regrettably I have seen 'total corporate solution' just recently. Set yourself tasks. Try getting a webcam working for example. You learn by trying to do stuff and figuring out why it didn't work. Oh, but remember. No sense of humour please. Love from Clara x x x On Saturday 20 April 2002 00:39, you wrote:
Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
TIA
Greg Hicks
* Anders Johansson (andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net) [020419 16:29]:
On Friday 19 April 2002 23:37, steve wrote:
It's written in plain german english.
LOL :)
I was looking through the 8.0 manuals today and it seems we have more German-creep than in 7.3. It gives the manuals that "old world" charm I think. Certainly not as bad as the 5.x manuals; those looked like Beowulf.
Oh, but remember. No sense of humour please.
Then what's the point of being alive if we can't have a sense of humour?
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details. -- -ckm
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :) Anders
At 02:16 20/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :)
Isn't that a requirement for that OTHER O/S ??
Jon Biddell schrieb:
At 02:16 20/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :)
Isn't that a requirement for that OTHER O/S ??
No, you need (have) humor with linux, masochism is what belongs to the other (not realy) os. Juergen -- =========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann juergen.braukmann@gmx.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ===========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
On Saturday 20 April 2002 14:39, you wrote:
Jon Biddell schrieb:
At 02:16 20/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :)
Isn't that a requirement for that OTHER O/S ??
No, you need (have) humor with linux, masochism is what belongs to the other (not realy) os.
Juergen
Well, I started this thread and I think that I should decide. Humour can and should be encouraged once again on this list. Look at me for example. I can't even get SuSE firewall2 running. Cheers, Steve. ... did you hear the one about the guy who. . . No leave it!
* Juergen Braukmann
Jon Biddell schrieb:
At 02:16 20/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :)
Isn't that a requirement for that OTHER O/S ??
No, you need (have) humor with linux, masochism is what belongs to the other (not realy) os.
Slight Correction: Masochism IS the other os. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
On Saturday 20 April 2002 08:39 am, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Jon Biddell schrieb:
At 02:16 20/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
On Saturday 20 April 2002 01:35, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
In your recent absence Anders we banned all humor from the list. Please see the faq for more details.
Ouch. Guess I'll have to start running RedHat then. A sense of humour is an absolute requirement to run that :)
Isn't that a requirement for that OTHER O/S ??
No, you need (have) humor with linux, masochism is what belongs to the other (not realy) os.
Larry Wall once called certain non-perl languages "bondage and discipline languages"; meaning it both literally and figuratively. ;-) That definitely applies to the other OS that runs if you type loose.com or something. ;-) -- Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful than the sun." "Why?", he was asked. "Because at night we need the light more."
Greg Hicks wrote:
Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
Tip a glance at: http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/index.html Also worthwhile is: http://whatis.techtarget.com/whome/0,,sid9,00.html -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER1@MN.RR.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE
* Greg Hicks (ghicks@ramko.com) [020419 15:43]:
Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
Probably the easiest is to just setup a DICT client (yes, more jargon). For example: ckm@hades: ~> dict OO ------------------------- 4 definitions found
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
Oo \Oo\, a. One. [Obs.] --Chaucer.
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
Oo \O"["o]\, n. [Hawaiian.] (Zo["o]l.) A beautiful bird ({Moho nobilis}) of the Hawaiian Islands. It yields the brilliant yellow feathers formerly used in making the royal robes. Called also {yellow-tufted honeysucker}.
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (13 Mar 01) [foldoc]:
OO {object-oriented}
From V.E.R.A. -- Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms 13 March 2001 [vera]:
OO Object Orientated ------------------------- Setting it up is easy, install the dictd package and create a file in your home directory that has the name of the dict server to use. E.g., echo "server dict.org" > ~/.dictrc You can limit which dictionaries are searched: dict -d vera would only return the last definition from the above example. -- -ckm
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Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
TIA
Greg Hicks
Take a look at the Jargon file ( http://www.jargon.org ) Also use KDict ( /opt/kde2/bin/kdict if you have a default suse installation ) - -tosi - -- This mail is sent using KMail and Linux. Thus it is 100% guaranteed virus free. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8wJ/36mRH+PEpr2YRAkrtAKCH9CB8Qory0NOg3suWhfdTZWpKeACeLlo8 FnGIFWejP9eJBWVZ03yf3dY= =pVJ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 23:39, Greg Hicks wrote:
Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
Slightly off topic, nevertheless informative, in my opinion. I dont know about advanced references for advanced topics, but if you're really new to Linux, may I suggest getting this book at: http://www.peachpit.com/books/catalog/K5852.html and just peruse it from time to time. It may say Unix, but I swear by it. SIMPLE and SUCCINCT. -- Kemdi IN_SuSE_d Since 5.2 123792 of counter.li.org ICQ:112290572
I'd recommend one or more of the excellent Linux magazines that are published now. Here in the UK there are several including Linux Magazine and Linux Format. They do a good balance of beginner level and advanced articles. Although this won't allow you to look up the terms as you go, it will help you come up the learning curve so that eventually you will seldom need to look them up. David. On Friday 19 April 2002 23:39, Greg Hicks wrote:
Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there someplace to go that has a dictionary type listing of all this stuff so I can look up these terms as I run across them?
TIA
Greg Hicks
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On Friday 19 April 2002 06:39 pm, Greg Hicks wrote:
Can someone point me to a site/FAQ that helps to straighten out all this jibberish I read in the postings here? I'm a newbie to Linux and keep seeing words like, (dmake, libstlport_gcc.so, recommended compilers for OO, RPM) and you guys may as well be posting in a foreign language. Is there
As someone mentioned before, the default installation includes a program called kdict, a graphical edition of the internet dictionary program dict. There's also another program wtf that's also part of the SuSE distribution that explains some popular but not so serious acronyms you'll encounter online. Between these two programs, and a good imagination for the rest :-), you'll be able to figure out almost any acronym you don't know. -- Expense Accounts, n.: Corporate food stamps.
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