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Jeffrey Taylor

11 Apr 2024 11 Apr '24

03:49

My wife uses Thunderbird on Windows 11 for her e-mail. She uses the free AOL mail. For decades. Today, it stopped allowing outgoing mail. She called AOL help line. Some one using a script who didn't really understand whats going on. After she exhausted her script she started a hard sell for a paid plan. It appears to be only $4.99 a month. I'm unclear if subscribing, 3rd party e-mail clients are supported. The $4.99 paid plan, 2-step verification with a 6 digit code in a text message, or an app password. Does anyone have experience with any of these? TIA, Jeffrey

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Masaru Nomiya

11 Apr 11 Apr

04:43

Hello, In the Message; Subject : SOT: Thunderbird and AOL Message-ID : <1a878bad-bbd6-4b25-b070-b6c437d8a625@ieee.org> Date & Time: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:49:33 -0500 [JT] == Jeffrey Taylor via openSUSE Users has written: JT> My wife uses Thunderbird on Windows 11 for her e-mail. She uses JT> the free AOL mail. For decades. Today, it stopped allowing JT> outgoing mail. She called AOL help line. Some one using a JT> script who didn't really understand whats going on. After she JT> exhausted her script she started a hard sell for a paid plan. It JT> appears to be only $4.99 a month. I'm unclear if subscribing, JT> 3rd party e-mail clients are supported. The $4.99 paid plan, JT> 2-step verification with a 6 digit code in a text message, or an JT> app password. Does anyone have experience with any of these? I have no experience, but I would check the log first; https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1369140 Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices — and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring--

Jeffrey Taylor

14 Apr 14 Apr

22:10

On 4/10/24 23:43, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

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Hello,

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Subject : SOT: Thunderbird and AOL Message-ID :<1a878bad-bbd6-4b25-b070-b6c437d8a625@ieee.org> Date & Time: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:49:33 -0500

[JT] == Jeffrey Taylor via openSUSE Users has written:

JT> My wife uses Thunderbird on Windows 11 for her e-mail. She uses JT> the free AOL mail. For decades. Today, it stopped allowing JT> outgoing mail. She called AOL help line. Some one using a JT> script who didn't really understand whats going on. After she JT> exhausted her script she started a hard sell for a paid plan. It JT> appears to be only $4.99 a month. I'm unclear if subscribing, JT> 3rd party e-mail clients are supported. The $4.99 paid plan, JT> 2-step verification with a 6 digit code in a text message, or an JT> app password. Does anyone have experience with any of these?

I have no experience, but I would check the log first;

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1369140

Best Regards.

I think either 2-step authentication was required or AOL had a glitch. I enable 2-step authentication. Logged into the Website. Text message arrived with a verification code. Plugged the number in. Then went back to using Thunderbird to read and write e-mails and it worked. Continued to work after logging out of the Website. Thank you all for the help, Jeffrey and Janelle

Carlos E. R.

11 Apr 11 Apr

10:28

On 2024-04-11 05:49, Jeffrey Taylor via openSUSE Users wrote:

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My wife uses Thunderbird on Windows 11 for her e-mail. She uses the free AOL mail. For decades. Today, it stopped allowing outgoing mail. She called AOL help line. Some one using a script who didn't really understand whats going on. After she exhausted her script she started a hard sell for a paid plan. It appears to be only $4.99 a month. I'm unclear if subscribing, 3rd party e-mail clients are supported. The $4.99 paid plan, 2-step verification with a 6 digit code in a text message, or an app password. Does anyone have experience with any of these?

If you want, there is an specific support group for Thunderbird on Usenet. Named alt.comp.software.thunderbird -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Liam Proven

12:24

On 11/04/2024 4:49 am, Jeffrey Taylor via openSUSE Users wrote:

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My wife uses Thunderbird on Windows 11 for her e-mail. She uses the free AOL mail.

Still works. I am replying from Thunderbird right now, and I have my old AOL account configured in this instance. It works perfectly and I just logged into my AOL webmail to check -- all my latest AOL mails are there and working. Verizon has taken over AOL mail and Yahoo mail and others. It was branded as Oath Inc for a while, as described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Inc._(2017%E2%80%93present)#Under_Veriz...) All the mail now flows through Verizon servers. You need to configure Thunderbird for OAth 2 authentication, as also used for Gmail and others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAuth As well as the spelling note the capitalisation difference between Oath and OAuth. The similarity is coincidental. So long as your wife's copy of Thunderbird authenticates with OAuth, it will works fine and there is no need to pay anything. You may need to remove and recreate the account. In the past I found that I could not change authentication from anything else to OAuth: it only works correctly on a newly-configured T'bird account. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven IoM: +44 7624 227612 ~ UK: +44 7939-087884 ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

Carlos E. R.

17:27

On 2024-04-11 14:24, Liam Proven wrote:

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On 11/04/2024 4:49 am, Jeffrey Taylor via openSUSE Users wrote:

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You may need to remove and recreate the account. In the past I found that I could not change authentication from anything else to OAuth: it only works correctly on a newly-configured T'bird account.

Maybe removing the old one is not needed; instead, disable and rename the old one and create a new one. Accounts, server settings. Disable Check for new messages at startup, then disable check for new messages every N minutes. Then, at the bottom, account actions, add mail account will start the wizard. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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