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Hello Can SuSE9.2/(SLES9 for 32 bits) work on AMD Opteron???? Does SuSE can provide me OpenOffice, Evolution and other desktop apps for SLES9 for Itanium??? If i install software by myself to SLES9 i keep rights to ask SuSE's support??? Thanks Oxiel
Mon, 13 Dec 2004, by oxielc@yahoo.it:
Hello
Can SuSE9.2/(SLES9 for 32 bits) work on AMD Opteron????
Yes.
Does SuSE can provide me OpenOffice, Evolution and other desktop apps for SLES9 for Itanium???
Why on Earth would you want to use desktop aps on a server(setup)? Do you realy think it's a good idea to run potential dangerous s/w on a server? (ask the people who run unpatched MSIE on their IIS boxes because it's the only way to get an update from MS).
If i install software by myself to SLES9 i keep rights to ask SuSE's support???
No idea, but it'd depend on the support I guess. They wouldn't give you support on your self-installed and/or compiled s/w. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
Hello Theo El Lun 13 Dic 2004 14:46, Theo v. Werkhoven escribió:
Mon, 13 Dec 2004, by oxielc@yahoo.it:
Hello
Can SuSE9.2/(SLES9 for 32 bits) work on AMD Opteron????
Yes.
Great
Does SuSE can provide me OpenOffice, Evolution and other desktop apps for SLES9 for Itanium???
Why on Earth would you want to use desktop aps on a server(setup)? Do you realy think it's a good idea to run potential dangerous s/w on a server? (ask the people who run unpatched MSIE on their IIS boxes because it's the only way to get an update from MS).
This is what happens.... the only certified OS for the server pretended to be buy (HP Integrity rx1600 server) are RHAS3.0 and SLES8/9, so can't install SuSE9.1 which has everything i need to make it an LTSP server. So SLES9 has no desktop apps at all in their media but i need them to allow users to work with LTSP. I'm following this article: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/nnlsmag/features/a_ltsp_on_sles9_nls.htm... Any clue if SuSE can provide me these packages for SLES9 for itanium (rpm binaries)?
If i install software by myself to SLES9 i keep rights to ask SuSE's support???
No idea, but it'd depend on the support I guess. They wouldn't give you support on your self-installed and/or compiled s/w.
Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
I never thought it would be so difficult to get an answer from SuSE/Novell, nobody seems to care about supporting potential buyers / users .... its very dissapointing!!!!!!!!! Thanks Theo. Oxiel
Mon, 13 Dec 2004, by oxielc@yahoo.it:
Does SuSE can provide me OpenOffice, Evolution and other desktop apps for SLES9 for Itanium???
Why on Earth would you want to use desktop aps on a server(setup)?
This is what happens.... the only certified OS for the server pretended to be buy (HP Integrity rx1600 server) are RHAS3.0 and SLES8/9, so can't install SuSE9.1 which has everything i need to make it an LTSP server.
Now you're making sense.
Any clue if SuSE can provide me these packages for SLES9 for itanium (rpm binaries)?
Afaik the Itanium is i386 compatible, although with a decrement in speed, so the i686 packages should run without a problem.
I never thought it would be so difficult to get an answer from SuSE/Novell, nobody seems to care about supporting potential buyers / users .... its very dissapointing!!!!!!!!!
That's what you get when a large company takes over. It's probably not that they don't care, it's just too many damn pencil pushers before your problem arrives on the right desk. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Mon, 13 Dec 2004, by oxielc@yahoo.it: <SNIP>
I never thought it would be so difficult to get an answer from SuSE/Novell, nobody seems to care about supporting potential buyers / users .... its very dissapointing!!!!!!!!!
That's what you get when a large company takes over. It's probably not that they don't care, it's just too many damn pencil pushers before your problem arrives on the right desk.
I have had good experience with pre-sales since Novell got involved. In some cases it did take as long as a week to get the answer, but I was kept informed the whole time so I did not think things had gone into a black hole. After submitting the question from the Novell/SuSE webstie I ended up corresponding with someone from Novell at email address ICS_ICS@novell.com . I am pretty sure you would be much better off with SuSE Pro rather than SLES for your application. Yes, SLES is certified for your hardware - but not using the additional software that you wish to use. Once you do that you may find support difficult. But realize that the basic price of SLES only provides very basic installation support (on certified hardware) and patches via YOU for a year. Actual support starts at about US $900 per server per year. This lets you open unlimited email incidents. Hope you get your answer soon.
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:22, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Afaik the Itanium is i386 compatible, although with a decrement in speed, so the i686 packages should run without a problem.
Sort of. The hardware isn't compatible the way AMDs machines are or the new Xeons, but there is a software compatibility layer that lets you run x86 apps. And yes, it's slow, which is probably why AMD is eating their lunch now. Why do you think TheReg calls it Itanic :)
I never thought it would be so difficult to get an answer from SuSE/Novell, nobody seems to care about supporting potential buyers / users .... its very dissapointing!!!!!!!!!
That's what you get when a large company takes over. It's probably not that they don't care, it's just too many damn pencil pushers before your problem arrives on the right desk.
It helps if you ask in the right place too. This list isn't an official support forum. If Novell/SuSE people see questions here it'll be almost pure accident
Hello Thanks Theo, Richard and Anders. El Mar 14 Dic 2004 03:06, Anders Johansson escribió:
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:22, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Afaik the Itanium is i386 compatible, although with a decrement in speed, so the i686 packages should run without a problem.
Sort of. The hardware isn't compatible the way AMDs machines are or the new Xeons, but there is a software compatibility layer that lets you run x86 apps. And yes, it's slow, which is probably why AMD is eating their lunch now. Why do you think TheReg calls it Itanic :)
Is x86-64 only for AMD Opteron or it's for Intel Xeon too? Would these pagackes work properly on SLES9 for Itanium? As things are going, and following Anders suggestions, i would better press on changing the Itanium server and looking forward an Opteron server (Proliant DL585) which supports SLES9 for AMD64, as i've seen at suse's ftp server there are binary rpms for desktop apps like OpenOffice. Any advice is wellcomed!!
I never thought it would be so difficult to get an answer from SuSE/Novell, nobody seems to care about supporting potential buyers / users .... its very dissapointing!!!!!!!!!
That's what you get when a large company takes over. It's probably not that they don't care, it's just too many damn pencil pushers before your problem arrives on the right desk.
It helps if you ask in the right place too. This list isn't an official support forum. If Novell/SuSE people see questions here it'll be almost pure accident
I've already emailed and talked to 5 Novell personnel, all of them redirect me to each other, i thought i'll get more answers here at the list, and i wasn't wrong, you have helped me more thant Novell. Thanks!!! I will try with some SuSE personnel i've seen in the list, hope to get the clear picture. Best regards Oxiel
* Oxiel Contreras
El Mar 14 Dic 2004 03:06, Anders Johansson escribió:
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:22, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Afaik the Itanium is i386 compatible, although with a decrement in speed, so the i686 packages should run without a problem.
Sort of. The hardware isn't compatible the way AMDs machines are or the new Xeons, but there is a software compatibility layer that lets you run x86 apps. And yes, it's slow, which is probably why AMD is eating their lunch now. Why do you think TheReg calls it Itanic :)
Is x86-64 only for AMD Opteron or it's for Intel Xeon too?
Both (that is, if you are referring to the sm64t / xeon extended. The normal 32bit xeons obviously will not work)
Would these pagackes work properly on SLES9 for Itanium? No, Itanic is a totally different beast, and can not run x86_64 code.
As things are going, and following Anders suggestions, i would better press on changing the Itanium server and looking forward an Opteron server (Proliant DL585) which supports SLES9 for AMD64, as i've seen at suse's ftp server there are binary rpms for desktop apps like OpenOffice.
Definitely
Any advice is wellcomed!!
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Theo v. Werkhoven