SuSE Noobie (from redhat) Initial Impressions of 8.2
Hi, No one is probally interested ;), but I figured I would voice my opinions (my wife is now sick of them, so u lot get em :)) As the title says, I'm a EX redhat user (from 3 days), I've been using Linux now just over 5 years (and no windows either!), so I pretty confident around the system, and run 30 servers at work, the problem was they and my home machines were all Redhat based, yeah I've been there , Gentoo (to time consuming), Slackware (cool, IMHO crap package management), Mandrake (too buggy), Debian (apt is great, just not too cutting edge, yes I can use unstable), blah!, blah! and well Redhat... I've been slowly getting sick of rehat for around a year, numerous problems: 1. RPM is really broken. 2. their own rpms have really weird depandicies 3. system very, very slow 4. kernels are usiually weird. on the plus the Gnome desktop is really nice, compared to most over distros (and that includes SuSE), and I'm very used to it. Anyway, I read a review the other night and tried SuSE 8.2 Live Eval, and I loved it right away, and even gosh! liked KDE (yes I have always hated KDE, but then always used Gnome since the 1.0 days), so I rushed out literly withing 20 mins of using the Eval and bought the Professional version. Heres my opinions (so far :)): And so far I'm not going back to Redhat, its completely knock me off my stool (chair), ok its got its fair share of bugs and errors, but what distro hasn't?: 1. Unable to find my monitor (yet even RedHat 6.2 can find it..weird) 2. YaST2 package installer takes some getting used too (then its pretty esy) 3. Xine has no sound! 4. Foobillard is completely broken (same on RH). 5. Gnome is crippled, No AntiAliasing fonts, very basic setup (yes its the reverse from redhat, their KDE is). 6. Weird package names compared to Redhat (yes I know this is not redhat, this is my problem). 7. Everything just works (90%). 8. No gnome-spell for evolution (hence my spelling mistakes) 9. The biggest plus is speed and stability compared to RH, on my old RH system , If I had Xmms, evolution, Mozilla open , then tried to run say UT 2003 or RTCW, it would judder, stutter, xmms would halt. On SuSE, nothing, not even a blip from xmms, it was if I never had enything else running, perfect. 11. I actually now like KDE :) 12. SuSE have actually bothered to give WindowMaker a real menu :) Anyway feel free to call me a troll :) Mark
On Saturday 03 May 2003 00:47, MaC wrote:
4. Foobillard is completely broken (same on RH).
It was broken everywhere if you had more than 50 graphics modes available. It's fixed in 2.6 (http://foobillard.sunsite.dk). It's a tremendous game :)
* Anders Johansson (andjoh@rydsbo.net) [030502 15:52]:
On Saturday 03 May 2003 00:47, MaC wrote:
4. Foobillard is completely broken (same on RH).
It was broken everywhere if you had more than 50 graphics modes available. It's fixed in 2.6 (http://foobillard.sunsite.dk).
We should have new package soon, the bug I filed a few days ago regarding this has been closed. -- -ckm
On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 23:55, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 03 May 2003 00:47, MaC wrote:
4. Foobillard is completely broken (same on RH).
It was broken everywhere if you had more than 50 graphics modes available. It's fixed in 2.6 (http://foobillard.sunsite.dk).
Cheers, you would assume that SuSE would have spotted this, but with the amount of apps available, it would take them all year to debugg them all :)
It's a tremendous game :)
Cheers, now is the time to see how different building an rpm on SuSE is compared to RH :) Yes I know I can probally use the one on the site, but I always build my own. Mark
On Friday 02 May 2003 6:47 pm, MaC wrote:
Hi,
Hola, (much snipping)
3. Xine has no sound! You'll need to get a real xine if you want to watch dvd's, we can fix the xine problem later, if it reappears. SuSE can't include DvdCSS for legal reasons. Anyway i got mine through apt, but the packages come from packman. The ftp address for the packman part of apt is ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/8.2-i386/RPMS.packman-i686 You'll find everything you need there.(libxine, xineui,libxinedvd, libdvdcss, libxine alsa, libxinearts sholud be enough)
8. No gnome-spell for evolution (hence my spelling mistakes) Check out www.usr-local-bin.org, and get James' evolution and necessary packages.
-- Franklin Maurer Using SuSE 8.2 Pro
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Anders Johansson
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MaC
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