[opensuse] Help me to buy a new laptop
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz) Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station) any comments? -- with best regards from Russia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia
Maybe None of the Above. This promises to be an attractive machine: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7540 Side note: wireless and bluetooth can almost always be made to work under linux. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
thanks,
On 6/5/07, John Andersen
On Monday 04 June 2007, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia
Maybe None of the Above.
This promises to be an attractive machine: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7540 it wasn't anounced officialy yet
Side note: wireless and bluetooth can almost always be made to work under linux.
I've read from somewhere that it is too hard to get it working (to debug it)
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On Monday 04 June 2007, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Maybe None of the Above.
This promises to be an attractive machine: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7540
it wasn't anounced officialy yet
True, but if you are not in a screaming hurry it might be worth the wait.
Side note: wireless and bluetooth can almost always be made to work under linux.
I've read from somewhere that it is too hard to get it working (to debug it)
Not really, lots of help on this list usually gets the job done. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007 18:31, John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia
Maybe None of the Above.
This promises to be an attractive machine: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7540
Side note: wireless and bluetooth can almost always be made to work under linux.
-- _____________________________________ John Andersen
The url refers to a Dell computer. The readers should be aware that the Attorney General of the State of New York is suing Dell for breach of contract in not standing by its warranty agreements to repair machines that fail, after something like 700 complaints were referred to his office. I'm sure that this can be verified on the net. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007, Doug McGarrett wrote:
The url refers to a Dell computer. The readers should be aware that the Attorney General of the State of New York is suing Dell for breach of contract in not standing by its warranty agreements to repair machines that fail, after something like 700 complaints were referred to his office. I'm sure that this can be verified on the net.
--doug
Well good, that way I'm assured of not having future problems. Of course I would have to wait till one of the 30 of 40 Dells I maintain for my company an my customers actually has a problem. which, to date (knock on wood) has not happened. 100% of the Sonys my company purchased had to go back within the first month, and it took weeks to get them to accept the fact that it was their MOBO that was the problem. The deal is that every manufacturer has problems from time to time, and every one of them is in court somewhere. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 04 June 2007 17:16, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia
Hi, not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference. . BUT, the main reason why I wrote was to tell you I have had great luck with both acer and toshiba laptops using 9.3 through 10.3. Everything works fine out of the box except when you have an atheros wireless chipset. This is easily fixed by downloading the madwifi package. If you have any type of computer store with display models available, I would suggest popping in a live cd to test it out before committing yourself. I mess around at circuit city all the time, if they want your hard earned $$, they wont mind. Good luck. - -- powered by OPENSuSE 10.2 athlon i386 GNU/Linux http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com 8:17pm up 0:33, 1 user, load average: 0.78, 1.15, 1.25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZK6JlUTSIL6z5CARAnDpAJ42j2SB5udOCVWvfenF1WVCvyRgsgCeJW7C SyBcYq3oMMFwVqrEQ65uw9g= =QPys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007 17:29, steve reilly wrote:
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Hi,
not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference...
Eh? I was under the distinct impression that at the moment, Intel is the clear winner on the performance and power (and heat dissipation) front. Am I wrong? Does AMD have any processors that seriously challenge Intel's Core 2 series?
...
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 04 June 2007 21:05, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 17:29, steve reilly wrote:
...
Hi,
not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference...
Eh? I was under the distinct impression that at the moment, Intel is the clear winner on the performance and power (and heat dissipation) front.
Am I wrong? Does AMD have any processors that seriously challenge Intel's Core 2 series?
...
Randall Schulz
it was not my intention to get into any kind of flaming debate about processors, im going to end it before it starts. I was just trying to say I have had good luck with the 2 laptops I mentioned, The gentleman may be better off either testing the laptop first OR shopping for a laptop tested true for linux compatibility. peace. powered by OPENSuSE 10.2 athlon i386 GNU/Linux http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com 9:40pm up 1:56, 1 user, load average: 0.57, 0.76, 1.39 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZMGtlUTSIL6z5CARAkV+AKCr7ioqHbhFopNrOWcy8VhHzzCQKQCeP4Nb PJwy0qR5WO/8zOAbWoofTiM= =jN/W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007 18:51, steve reilly wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 21:05, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 17:29, steve reilly wrote:
...
Hi,
not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference...
Eh? I was under the distinct impression that at the moment, Intel is the clear winner on the performance and power (and heat dissipation) front.
Am I wrong? Does AMD have any processors that seriously challenge Intel's Core 2 series? ...
It was not my intention to get into any kind of flaming debate about processors—I'm going to end it before it starts. I was just trying to say I have had good luck with the 2 laptops I mentioned. The gentleman may be better off either testing the laptop first OR shopping for a laptop tested true for Linux compatibility.
No flames are in evidence. But if you were "just trying to say [you] had good luck ..." then say that, and don't use the "steer clear" language. The two are hardly interchangeable. And it goes without saying that one would be "better off" conducting empirical tests, should that actually be an option... RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 04 June 2007 22:05, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 18:51, steve reilly wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 21:05, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 17:29, steve reilly wrote:
...
Hi,
not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference...
Eh? I was under the distinct impression that at the moment, Intel is the clear winner on the performance and power (and heat dissipation) front.
Am I wrong? Does AMD have any processors that seriously challenge Intel's Core 2 series?
...
It was not my intention to get into any kind of flaming debate about processors—I'm going to end it before it starts. I was just trying to say I have had good luck with the 2 laptops I mentioned. The gentleman may be better off either testing the laptop first OR shopping for a laptop tested true for Linux compatibility.
No flames are in evidence.
But if you were "just trying to say [you] had good luck ..." then say that, and don't use the "steer clear" language. The two are hardly interchangeable.
And it goes without saying that one would be "better off" conducting empirical tests, should that actually be an option...
RRS
we all have a different manner in which we communicate. The last time I checked this list was a resource for suse linux users, not a haven for people who prefer to criticize others responses. Please, if you do not have anything constructive to add to the topic at hand, move on. Sheesh! Thank you. - -- powered by OPENSuSE 10.2 athlon i386 GNU/Linux http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com 10:16pm up 2:32, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.18, 0.25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZMjnlUTSIL6z5CARAvs3AKCi4lkaUMv0z9yC+zd3bOpwvkUfnQCdG4lP 7UyZ8B9aBKOuwtqKwJFEIS4= =ydYk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 June 2007 19:22, steve reilly wrote:
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we all have a different manner in which we communicate. The last time I checked this list was a resource for suse linux users, not a haven for people who prefer to criticize others responses. Please, if you do not have anything constructive to add to the topic at hand, move on. Sheesh! Thank you.
"Sheesh" yourself. If one does not communicate effectively, it's hardly suprising that a retort will be forthcoming. And clearly you have not "checked" often, since debate is frequent and vigorous, here. If you cannot tolerate being even slightly disagreed with or even questioned (and question was all I did), then you should limit yourself to a spectator's role. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 6/5/07, steve reilly
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On Monday 04 June 2007 17:16, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia
Hi,
not sure about the intel platform, especially a new one. If it were myself, I would steer clear for a while, just personal preference. . BUT, the main reason why I wrote was to tell you I have had great luck with both acer and toshiba laptops using 9.3 through 10.3. Everything works fine out of the box except when you have an atheros wireless chipset. This is easily fixed by downloading the madwifi package.
Thanks but i have turion based laptop. FSA1655g Turion a good processor but not with ati chipset. I have a lot of problems with it. To me intel has great linux support from wireless to GPU. Thats why i choose new santa-rosa platform
If you have any type of computer store with display models available, I would suggest popping in a live cd to test it out before committing yourself. I mess around at circuit city all the time, if they want your hard earned $$, they wont mind.
Good luck.
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On Monday 04 June 2007 19:29, steve reilly wrote:
On Monday 04 June 2007 17:16, Dinar Valeev wrote:
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
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To me, there's only one player in teh laptop market...IBM Thinkpad's
hands down. If not just for their linux compatibility, for their
design and durability. Until any other laptop vendor out there has
titanium hinges from teh base to the lcd, and can flatten out
completely, I personally would look no other way. ESPECIALLY if you
have kids whom may be around while it's on your lap. I've had my
daughter come in front of me and pull down on my screen, and i had no
concern whatsoever. If it was a dell, hp, mac, or any other vendor
really for that matter, it would have snapped. Also, if your ever in
your car or anything like that while ur lappy is on, I can sit a
thinkpad on my steering wheel, and position my screen upright. Yet
again, any other model's screen would most likely be positioned chest
level.
Like I said, it may just be personal preference, but just teh screen
alone sells me on them. I've had a T40, and on a T42 now for a couple
of years running Gentoo only. Never booted to anything but on either
one actually. Been drooling over the Z61T for some time also. Of
course like you mentioned, the X series are incredible as well, but i
like the idea of the cd/dvd rom being in the chasis over the docking
station. Something about a little 12inch screen with a weight of only
3lbs is quite appealing though! =D
Good Luck with your hunt!!!!!
On 6/4/07, Dinar Valeev
Hello, i've decided to buy a new laptop. I'm looking for a small lightweight 12,1'' laptop based on a new Intel santa-rosa platform. I have 5 models. Acer TM6292 HP 2510p HP 2710p IBM x61 IBM x61 Tablet
The most important is linux compatibility which have HP (it certified to run SLED10) but its processor has poor performance (Intel ULV 1.02GHz)
Acer is a best choice but it does not compatible with Linux and its weight is aprox 2.0Kg. Im afraid that my Wireless and bluetooth buttons will not work
IBM did'nt have internal DVD (only through dock station)
any comments? -- with best regards from Russia -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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