I am thoroughly disgusted with this situation. I have an 8.0 system. It runs fine, if a bit slower than previous versions. The one thing that is making me crazy is printing. I had different printing problems with 7.3 too, 7.1 was fine. I have an HP IIP laser, it prints perfectly under Win98. Under linux I am using lprng sosftware. The problem is it USUALLY prints too close to the top of the paper so the top line is cut in half. I have gone through everything I can think of to correct or modify the system to no avail. No my software is NOT set to A4 it is set to letter. I even went into the lpdfilter and hard modified it so wherever it referred to a paper size it would come up letter. This really is ridiculous. Under previous versions of Suse there was a program for Tex called texconfig that had a section that allowed you to move the area of printing around until it was symmetrical (they have taken that out, as far as I could tell, when they changed texconfig), THAT is what it seems like I need. I have checked the manual for the printer and there is no way to make margin settings THERE. Printing is IMPORTANT. There HAS to be a solution for this so I am willing to do whatever. Please don't say that CUPS is the answer, if it was that good Suse would have made it the default and they didn't. I tried CUPS on 7.3 and it was just as bad, I also tried the commercial package, whose name I forget, ESP maybe? I sure could use a hand here. I have RTFM and wouldn't be asking if I had found an answer. Scott
On Sunday 26 May 2002 15:40, J. Scott Thayer, M.D. wrote:
I am thoroughly disgusted with this situation. I have an 8.0 system. It runs fine, if a bit slower than previous versions. The one thing that is making me crazy is printing. I had different printing problems with 7.3 too, 7.1 was fine. I have an HP IIP laser, it prints perfectly under Win98. Under linux I am using lprng sosftware. The problem is it USUALLY prints too close to the top of the paper so the top line is cut in half. I have gone through everything I can think of to correct or modify the system to no avail. No my software is NOT set to A4 it is set to letter. I even went into the lpdfilter and hard modified it so wherever it referred to a paper size it would come up letter. This really is ridiculous. Under previous versions of Suse there was a program for Tex called texconfig that had a section that allowed you to move the area of printing around until it was symmetrical (they have taken that out, as far as I could tell, when they changed texconfig), THAT is what it seems like I need. I have checked the manual for the printer and there is no way to make margin settings THERE. Printing is IMPORTANT. There HAS to be a solution for this so I am willing to do whatever. Please don't say that CUPS is the answer, if it was that good Suse would have made it the default and they didn't. I tried CUPS on 7.3 and it was just as bad, I also tried the commercial package, whose name I forget, ESP maybe? I sure could use a hand here. I have RTFM and wouldn't be asking if I had found an answer. Scott
Dr Scott, Out of what programs do you experience these too close to the edge printouts? Does it only do this from Konq, text editors or standard generic programs in the system or do you get this same problem when printing from KWord, OpenOffice, StarOffice, etc? I have seen this happen with the generic programs in KDE, but never with the word processors or other programs. I suspect it is something to do with the size paper selected in the printer setup using the extended margins. I seem to remember you can choose just A4 or A4 with large margins as well as Letter or Letter with larger margins. I can't be sure if this has any effect on it as I have not experimented myself, but maybe someone else here has? Also, when doing the test printout in your setup, how did it do? Did the test cut off anything or was it correctly lined up on the page? Patrick -- --- KMail v1.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Magic Page Products -- Amiga-SuSE-PC Sales & Service URL: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tracerb
OK, just for the sake of being able to answer honestly I just deinstalled and reinstalled my HPIIP so I could run the graphic and ascii tests. Both print nicely but I don't know how they should look if they were 'perfect' so who knows? I don't know how far down from the top the first line of text should appear on the ascii test and the graphic looks like it COULD be offset a bit high. In OpenOffice there is what I consider good margin control, if I open a default document, type a line at the top of the page and print it specifying 'letter' the line is off the top of the page. 3 carriage returns bring it to a printable level. You could say, 'oh well, just arrange it on the page' but the problem with some programs is that evne if you do that for the first page, what about the second and so on? My biggest problem is from the KEdit etc. family. One thing about KEdit, if you print you are using Enscript. You can get to a place where you are supposed to be able to modify how it behaves, like to get rid of the d**n header. If you look at the supposed command line it has --no-header in it but it prints the header and I have been unable to get it to recognize changes in the Boolean variable that appears to control whether there is a header or not. I am aware of the A4 issue and always look for that first but it has been of little help most of the time. It is a shame that linux is so good in many ways but I still need to resort to Win98 to do 'real work', at least the involves reliable printing. I have been with linux from early on and have first issue Linux Journal etc. etc. I love linux but this sucks. It should not be this much of a pain to do something so critical as printing. Scott
Dr Scott, Out of what programs do you experience these too close to the edge printouts? Does it only do this from Konq, text editors or standard generic programs in the system or do you get this same problem when printing from KWord, OpenOffice, StarOffice, etc? I have seen this happen with the generic programs in KDE, but never with the word processors or other programs. I suspect it is something to do with the size paper selected in the printer setup using the extended margins. I seem to remember you can choose just A4 or A4 with large margins as well as Letter or Letter with larger margins.
I can't be sure if this has any effect on it as I have not experimented myself, but maybe someone else here has? Also, when doing the test printout in your setup, how did it do? Did the test cut off anything or was it correctly lined up on the page?
Patrick
Just got into this mailing list so I'm not sure what was posted before. I'm using Suse 8.0. I have a HP PhotoSmart 1000 bought in the States connected via USB. I'm using A4 size paper bought here in Germany. I tried printing something using a KDE word processor, don't remember which, and the top line of the page wasn't fully printed. I switched to US letter size and everything printed fine. I opened up a pdf file with the default ghostscript by clicking on the pdf file. About 25% of the right hand text was lost. It looks like the margins shifted. When I opened the same file up using Acroread the printout was fine. Beats me. Eric On Monday 27 May 2002 17:34, J. Scott Thayer, M.D. wrote:
OK, just for the sake of being able to answer honestly I just deinstalled and reinstalled my HPIIP so I could run the graphic and ascii tests. Both print nicely but I don't know how they should look if they were 'perfect' so who knows? I don't know how far down from the top the first line of text should appear on the ascii test and the graphic looks like it COULD be offset a bit high. In OpenOffice there is what I consider good margin control, if I open a default document, type a line at the top of the page and print it specifying 'letter' the line is off the top of the page. 3 carriage returns bring it to a printable level. You could say, 'oh well, just arrange it on the page' but the problem with some programs is that evne if you do that for the first page, what about the second and so on? My biggest problem is from the KEdit etc. family. One thing about KEdit, if you print you are using Enscript. You can get to a place where you are supposed to be able to modify how it behaves, like to get rid of the d**n header. If you look at the supposed command line it has --no-header in it but it prints the header and I have been unable to get it to recognize changes in the Boolean variable that appears to control whether there is a header or not. I am aware of the A4 issue and always look for that first but it has been of little help most of the time. It is a shame that linux is so good in many ways but I still need to resort to Win98 to do 'real work', at least the involves reliable printing. I have been with linux from early on and have first issue Linux Journal etc. etc. I love linux but this sucks. It should not be this much of a pain to do something so critical as printing. Scott
Dr Scott, Out of what programs do you experience these too close to the edge printouts? Does it only do this from Konq, text editors or standard generic programs in the system or do you get this same problem when printing from KWord, OpenOffice, StarOffice, etc? I have seen this happen with the generic programs in KDE, but never with the word processors or other programs. I suspect it is something to do with the size paper selected in the printer setup using the extended margins. I seem to remember you can choose just A4 or A4 with large margins as well as Letter or Letter with larger margins.
I can't be sure if this has any effect on it as I have not experimented myself, but maybe someone else here has? Also, when doing the test printout in your setup, how did it do? Did the test cut off anything or was it correctly lined up on the page?
Patrick
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