Hello everybody, I tried to install SuSE 9.1 yesterday by trying to Upgrade my 9.0-installation. The nightmare was as follows: The first problem I encountered was that yast was not able to mount my root-partition (reiserfs) although my 9.0-installation worked properly... After a few tries, I used the "Auto-Repair Installed System"-feature (if you still use 9.0 - DONT USE THIS FEATURE!!!). First it worked very nicely until it got to the point where it checked the installation. The repair-function noticed that the 9.1-installation was faulty (right, as it was a 9.0-installation) and upgraded some packages. After a reboot the system did not come up (could not find kernel). Well, yast-installation again - could not mount root-filesystem. Damn. I tried many things but when I used "Reset Options" from the menu on the bottom YAST COULD MOUNT MY PARTITION - there were no other settings but (by magic) now it worked (could this be a bug?!). But as the repair-system changed my old 9.0-installation "There was an error upgrading your system". After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions... Btw. I'm not a Linux novice (I use Linux since 1994) but it seems that you must not rely on "automatic upgrade functionalities"... Sad, sad. Gery P.S.: I posted this to suse-autoinstall also, but I guess it was the wrong list... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl.-Ing. Wolfgang Gernot Bauer, Leiter Internet Schoellerbank AG, Sterneckstrasse 5, 5024 Salzburg, Austria/Europe Tel.: ++43-662-8684-364, Fax.: ++43-662-8684-44364 Email: mailto:wolfgang.bauer@schoellerbank.at, WWW: http://www.schoellerbank.at Diese Nachricht dient ausschließlich zu Informationszwecken und ist nur für den Gebrauch des Empfängers bestimmt. This message is only for informational purposes and is intended solely for the use of the addressee.
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some.
Hi Anders,
Anders Johansson
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running
system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some.
This seems to be the better way to upgrade. Bad thing, that the admin-manual tells you otherwise (yeah, I know: never read the manual - Ill keep this in mind next time). Gery
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some. On my 8.1 version YAST has under the software section 'System Update'. Is this
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13:21, Anders Johansson wrote: the choice you mean? -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
On Friday 07 May 2004 12.59, Frits Wüthrich wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13:21, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some.
On my 8.1 version YAST has under the software section 'System Update'. Is this the choice you mean?
Yes that's the choice I mean, but I'm not so sure about using it to go from 8.1 to 9.0 or 9.1. 8.1 used rpm 3.x, and 9.0 and 9.1 use 4.x, and when I upgraded to 9.0 I had a world of trouble. On one machine where I went from 8.2 to 9.0 I lost the entire rpm database and was forced to rebuild it from scratch. On another, where I went from 8.2 to 9.1, the database as a whole stayed intact but the packages that were upgraded at the same time as rpm were lost to rpm and had to be reinstalled. It was possible to do it and keep a running system, but it was a huge mess. By contrast, the systems were I've gone from 8.1 to 8.2, or 9.0 to 9.1, have gone through painlessly
On Friday 07 May 2004 13:06, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 07 May 2004 12.59, Frits Wüthrich wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13:21, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some.
On my 8.1 version YAST has under the software section 'System Update'. Is this the choice you mean?
Yes that's the choice I mean, but I'm not so sure about using it to go from 8.1 to 9.0 or 9.1. 8.1 used rpm 3.x, and 9.0 and 9.1 use 4.x, and when I upgraded to 9.0 I had a world of trouble. On one machine where I went from 8.2 to 9.0 I lost the entire rpm database and was forced to rebuild it from scratch. On another, where I went from 8.2 to 9.1, the database as a whole stayed intact but the packages that were upgraded at the same time as rpm were lost to rpm and had to be reinstalled. It was possible to do it and keep a running system, but it was a huge mess.
By contrast, the systems were I've gone from 8.1 to 8.2, or 9.0 to 9.1, have gone through painlessly
Two days ago I updated from 8.1 to 9.1 by booting from the 9.1 CD. It worked very well. I am a bit hesitant to follow the same path on this desktop, as I don't want to lose any data, it is also a dual boot with WinXP. On my laptop I didn't mind if I lost it all and had to install from scratch in case it got messed up What would be the best way to deal with this, without losing any data. I already started doing it from the 9.1 DVD, but I aborted the installation because I had first to delete my evolution version. -- Frits Wüthrich
On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 06:59, Frits Wüthrich wrote:
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13.01, Wolfgang.Bauer@schoellerbank.at wrote:
After I copied all my /home-data to my windowspartition via text-console and freshly installed 9.1, I had a running linux-system again. But I really have to say: poor upgrade-system. It used to work better with older Suse-distributions...
I didn't try the upgrade feature where you boot from the CD, but I did use the "Upgrade entire system" feature in yast, where you upgrade from a running system, and so far I seem to have avoided all problems reported on this list. I even have a working XFS, which apparently is a problem for some. On my 8.1 version YAST has under the software section 'System Update'. Is this
On Thursday 06 May 2004 13:21, Anders Johansson wrote: the choice you mean?
As it says it is a system update (same version) not upgrade (new version). -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
On Friday 07 May 2004 15.09, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
As it says it is a system update (same version) not upgrade (new version).
If you had ever actually tried it you would know that that's not true. When you run it you get a screen that says "old version" and "new version". Quite apart from the fact that it works, it was clearly intended for this as well
On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 09:12, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 07 May 2004 15.09, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
As it says it is a system update (same version) not upgrade (new version).
If you had ever actually tried it you would know that that's not true. When you run it you get a screen that says "old version" and "new version". Quite apart from the fact that it works, it was clearly intended for this as well
I stand (sit) corrected. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 07 May 2004 15.09, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
As it says it is a system update (same version) not upgrade (new version).
If you had ever actually tried it you would know that that's not true. When you run it you get a screen that says "old version" and "new version". Quite apart from the fact that it works, it was clearly intended for this as well
What is the *best* way to successfully upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, please? I have a laptop and three desktops I'd like to upgrade. (I have the boxed Upgrade version.) I was going to follow the manual instructions and boot from the DVD and run the upgrade but am reading here that such does not work reliably -- but I do not see the "Upgrade Entire System" in YaST and when I choose the System upgrade option I am getting a dependency error and a warning that fixing it will require manual intervention. Help? Please? Thanks! doc
Just ran the 9.0 to 9.1 Upgrade "by the numbers" from the manual on my daughter's PC. Other than taking forever (3+ hours) to load on her somewhat long-in-the-tooth hand-me-down 450MHz-CPU 128M-RAM PC everything went smoothly, other than the network connection. Her PC connects via CAT-5 to a Netgear WGR614v2 router that then ties into the DSL modem. Oddly, I can access the Internet fine but cannot see the other two SuSE 9 PC's on the same router. As for those who are criticizing this release as imperfect -- I have been using computers for 30 years and have never seen a flawless OS release from any vendor -- IBM, DEC, Apple, M$, or the various Linux distros. Welcome to the imperfect world, and the reality that competition sometimes drives the schedule just a wee bit ahead of the preferences of software engineers and the QC folks. IMHO, YMMV ... doc
Just when I thought all was well my daughter rebooted he PC this morning to discover that the KDE ICON text was huge (perhaps font size 72 or something equally absurd). I opened SAX2 from Terminal (a small adventure in an of itself, guessing my way through oversized fonts) to edit but the font size carried into SAX so I could not see what I needed to edit the monitor. Is there a way I can reset the desktop font size from Terminal? Thanks! doc dmc wrote:
Just ran the 9.0 to 9.1 Upgrade "by the numbers" from the manual on my daughter's PC.
Other than taking forever (3+ hours) to load on her somewhat long-in-the-tooth hand-me-down 450MHz-CPU 128M-RAM PC everything went smoothly, other than the network connection.
Her PC connects via CAT-5 to a Netgear WGR614v2 router that then ties into the DSL modem.
Oddly, I can access the Internet fine but cannot see the other two SuSE 9 PC's on the same router.
As for those who are criticizing this release as imperfect -- I have been using computers for 30 years and have never seen a flawless OS release from any vendor -- IBM, DEC, Apple, M$, or the various Linux distros. Welcome to the imperfect world, and the reality that competition sometimes drives the schedule just a wee bit ahead of the preferences of software engineers and the QC folks.
IMHO, YMMV ... doc
If your talking about the pannel right click comeopen space on the pannel and look for layout. there is a size option from there. I use 49 on a 19" screen. Right click the desktop / appearence / font size I plan a clean install since my /home is a separate partition. Last update I tried was on this PII 7.2 to 7.3 took all night. clean installs from now on. CWSIV On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 09:21, dmc wrote:
Just when I thought all was well my daughter rebooted he PC this morning to discover that the KDE ICON text was huge (perhaps font size 72 or something equally absurd).
I opened SAX2 from Terminal (a small adventure in an of itself, guessing my way through oversized fonts) to edit but the font size carried into SAX so I could not see what I needed to edit the monitor.
Is there a way I can reset the desktop font size from Terminal?
Thanks! doc
dmc wrote:
Just ran the 9.0 to 9.1 Upgrade "by the numbers" from the manual on my daughter's PC.
Other than taking forever (3+ hours) to load on her somewhat long-in-the-tooth hand-me-down 450MHz-CPU 128M-RAM PC everything went smoothly, other than the network connection.
Her PC connects via CAT-5 to a Netgear WGR614v2 router that then ties into the DSL modem.
Oddly, I can access the Internet fine but cannot see the other two SuSE 9 PC's on the same router.
As for those who are criticizing this release as imperfect -- I have been using computers for 30 years and have never seen a flawless OS release from any vendor -- IBM, DEC, Apple, M$, or the various Linux distros. Welcome to the imperfect world, and the reality that competition sometimes drives the schedule just a wee bit ahead of the preferences of software engineers and the QC folks.
IMHO, YMMV ... doc
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