-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-01-21 at 00:18 -0500, Joe G wrote:

Ken Schneider wrote:

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It is here plain as can be, sda4.

Unfortunately, it's not listed as an option on mine.

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Well, I did my complete reinstall. There's still no /dev/sda4 on the drop down menu for adding media in Konqueror. But, my system is running as smooth as a top. -Joe

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Did you have the remote zip drive connected containing correctly formatted media when you did the install?

Yes. A formatted Zip disk with data was in the drive during the install.

if so, did the install recognize the drive?

Apparently not.

have you rebooted since the install with the zip drive connected?

Yes. No difference. -Joe

On 21/01/06, Joe G wrote:

One thing though....

I noticed during the start up script that the lp driver was loading. Does this mean that SuSE is now ONLY looking for a printer on the parallel port?

-Joe

I've never had a parallel port Zip drive automatically configured when setting up a new install. Try my How To now that you have re-installed. It should work. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

* Joe G [01-21-06 16:36]:

linux:/home/joegum # pico /etc/modules linux:/home/joegum # mkdir mnt/zip100 mkdir: cannot create directory `mnt/zip100': No such file or directory

you need to learn about positioning in the directory tree. mnt/zip100 needs to be /mnt/zip100

linux:/home/joegum # mkdir /mnt/zip 100.0

note: /mnt/zip100 is not = /mnt/zip 100.0

linux:/home/joegum # pico /etc/fstab linux:/home/joegum # mount /dev/sda4 /media/zip mount: mount point /media/zip does not exist

you need to make the directory for it to exist /media/zip != /mnt/zip100 != /mnt/zip 100.0

linux:/home/joegum # mount /etc/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0

above examples ! /mnt/zip100.0

mount: mount point /mnt/zip100.0 does not exist

you never made it "/mnt/zip100.0", all you examples are different.

linux:/home/joegum # joegum@linux:~> su Password: linux:/home/joegum # mount /etc/sda4 /mnt/zip100 mount: mount point /mnt/zip100 does not exist

/mnt/zip100 is not = mnt/zip100 unless you are at "/" directory structure IS important, as is the knowledge of it. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

On Saturday 21 January 2006 18:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Better use "su -" instead.

The - in `su -` makes sure you get a *complete* environment. Always good practice.

...

Password: linux:/home/joegum # pico linux:/home/joegum # pico /etc/modules linux:/home/joegum # mkdir mnt/zip100

Initial "/" missing...

When your path begins with a "/", the shell interprets that as being an absolute path, that is stating at "/". When you omit the initial "/", the shell interprets that as "start in the current working directory". So `mkdir /media/zip` will create the folder /media/zip, regardless of where your shell is in the filesystem. `mkdir media/zip` will create the folder /home/joegum/media/zip if you issue the command from the /home/joegum folder.

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mkdir: cannot create directory `mnt/zip100': No such file or directory linux:/home/joegum # mkdir /mnt/zip 100.0

Extra space... ----------------------^

Try not to create filenames or folder names with spaces in them; you will find life much easier. I like dots ".". Underscores and dashes work too. If you have spaces, then quoting the path will work: `cd "/home/mark/folder with space/picture.png"` There is a bit of a curve to get over here, but stick with it. Soon enough it will seem old hat to you. Once you get the basics down, there are some nice features to make it easier. Mark

* Joe G [01-21-06 23:21]:

joegum@linux:~> su - Password: linux:~ # mount /mnt/zip100.0 [mntent]: line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad mount: can't find /mnt/zip100.0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab linux:~ # cat /etc/fstab /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0 vfat auto noauto,user 0 0

Now' I'll admit that maybe my eyes aren't the best anymore, but I see /mnt/zip100.0 with no spaces and all the / 's correctly placed in line 11. I believe I added the line correctly. Or, did I mess something else up here, too?

Quite possibly. DO you have a directory: /mnt/zip100.0 ???? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

More info.... I just tried rebooting. the opening script also stated: : "mntent: Line number 11 in /etc/fstab is bad" So, this line would seem to be the issue, maybe a syntax issue? /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0 vfat auto noauto,user 0 0 I took out the word auto, and I received the following result: joegum@linux:~> su - Password: linux:~ # pico /etc/fstab linux:~ # mount /mnt/zip100.0 mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist linux:~ # I guess this goes deep, whatever the issue is. The zip drive works fine in Xp, but I haven't gotten a peep out of it since I reinstalled SuSE. The only tine I got any sort of response from it (some flashing and a click)was whe I started digging around in the kernel as shown in that old tutorial. It seems that this is a very thorny problem that might require a paid professional staff of researchers to correct. You folks have been very generous with your time and expertise. You have my appreciation. Thank you, -Joe

On 22/01/06, Joe G wrote:

I found a program called gtkzip. I undid all the changes made to my system and the installed it with YAST. I still trying to figure out the interface, but it seems to recognoize my zip and automatically added /dev/sda etal.

-Joe

--

That's the great thing about Linux and open source as a whole; there's always more than one way of getting something done. Could you post up your fstab line pertaining to the Zip drive now. Just so that we can see what it says? I'm simply curious. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

On 22/01/06, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 00:41 -0500, Joe G wrote:

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I just tried rebooting. the opening script also stated: : "mntent: Line number 11 in /etc/fstab is bad"

So, this line would seem to be the issue, maybe a syntax issue?

/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0 vfat auto noauto,user 0 0

"man fstab" would have told you.

It is either vfat or auto, not both. Try either:

/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0 vfat noauto,user 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip100.0 auto noauto,user 0 0

...

joegum@linux:~> su - Password: linux:~ # pico /etc/fstab linux:~ # mount /mnt/zip100.0 mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist linux:~ #

I think the problem is udev related, as I said previously.

- --

I have this in my fstab entry for my parallel Zip 250 - which works fine. /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip250.0 vfat noauto,user 0 0 -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

That's the great thing about Linux and open source as a whole; there's always more than one way of getting something done. Could you post up your fstab line pertaining to the Zip drive now. Just so that we can see what it says? I'm simply curious.

I found a program called gtkzip. I undid all the changes made to my system and the installed it with YAST. I still trying to figure out the interface, but it seems to recognoize my zip and automatically added /dev/sda etal. -Joe On 22/01/06, Joe G wrote:

I found a program called gtkzip. I undid all the changes made to my system and the installed it with YAST. I still trying to figure out the interface, but it seems to recognoize my zip and automatically added /dev/sda etal.

-Joe

Now, before anyone gets mad at me.... You'll note in my post that I said that gtkzip seems to recognoize my zip and automatically added

/dev/sda etal.

Last night it was late when I posted this and I was dead tired. I installed gtkzip and the device flashed and made a noise. Then, I went to bed, exhausted, without verifying anything. I did not go into /etc/fstab and verify that gtkzip had rewritten this, I only stated that it SEEMS to recognize my zip and automatically added the line in question. I did not state that it did, only that it SEEMS TO. And it really did seem to; the device flashed. Today, upon rising late, I still cannot access the zip drive even with gtkzip. The device does not even flash today. But, on the bright side, I believe that I have indeed found a workaround for this. I'm going to remove the parallel port zip drive, drop kick it into the garbage can, and buy a usb zip drive. (The usb port comes up on the drop down menu in Konqueror for a Zip drive.) -Joe

On 22/01/06, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Then, try to mount. If it doesn't, do:

lsmod | grep -e "ppa\|imm"

to see if the respective module was loaded; if not, do so with modprobe. I think it is ppa for zip100, imm for 250. I'm not fully sure, I'm going by memory.

Perfect memory, Carlos. Those are the correct terms in the correct order :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

Please disregard my last post. I did follow directions and the following was my output. You may notice that I mistyped in a few places, but Konsole helped debug and then I corrected to the best of my ability. Thanks, -Joe Password: linux:~ # pico linux:~ # pico /etc/modules linux:~ # pico /etc/fstab linux:~ # create /mnt/zip100.0 -bash: create: command not found linux:~ # mkdir /mnt/zip100.0 linux:~ # cd /dev linux:/dev # mknod sda4b 8 4 mknod: missing operand after `4' Try `mknod --help' for more information. linux:/dev # mknod sda4b 8 4 -m mknod: option requires an argument -- m Try `mknod --help' for more information. linux:/dev # modprobe ppa linux:/dev # mknod sda4 b 8 4 linux:/dev # chmod u+r+w,g+r+w sda4 linux:/dev # chown rootdisk sda4 chown: `rootdisk': invalid user linux:/dev # chown root chown: missing operand after `root' Try `chown --help' for more information. linux:/dev # chown root sda4 linux:/dev # mount /dev/sda4 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device linux:/dev # lsmod | grep -e "ppa\|imm" ppa 12296 0 scsi_mod 131304 2 sd_mod,ppa parport 33864 3 ppa,parport_pc,lp linux:/dev # modprobe ppa linux:/dev # mount /dev/sda4 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device linux:/dev # mount /mnt/zip100.0 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device linux:/dev # modprobe ppa linux:/dev # modprobe parport_pc linux:/dev # mount /mnt/zip100.0 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device linux:/dev # mount /dev/sda4 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device linux:/dev #

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 18:03 -0500, Joe G wrote:

i just wanted to take the time to say thank you to all of you for your efforts on my behalf. Unfortunately, I'm going to need this pc for my work and for starting night school this week. I figured I'd try over the weekend to get the ZIP going, but I guess It's just not meant to be. I even tried going into another old tutorial for SuSE 8 where it reccommended that I I instruct SuSE while booting to load the imm and parport modules by going i into .ex/boot.something/something.something. I'm going to do a re-install and then I need to keep this system running reliably. And, since it's getting harder to get even a printer that connects to the printer port anymore, I guess it just make sense for me to upgrade my ZIP hardware to something more modern. Even if I did get this to run, it's probably on its way to obsolescence anyhow. And I promise, I won't really destroy the ZIP drive. I have just enough time to do a clean reinstall before bed.

For your info, I just plugged my old ZIP 250 Iomega drive, parallel port, into my SuSE 9.3, and it worked first thing. I hadn't tried it since the 8th of October of 2004 at 19:18:58 hours (I checked my logs), probably with SuSE 8.1 or 8.2. Now it is 9.3, and it worked, without configuring anything. I don't remember this system really failing on me, for years. nimrodel:~ # mount /media/zip mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device nimrodel:~ # mount /media/zip2 mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device nimrodel:~ # modprobe imm nimrodel:~ # mount /media/zip nimrodel:~ # ls /media/zip . .. .fetchmailrc BUILD SPECS cer lost+found Notice that I manually loaded the module imm, I never bothered to automatize it. I no longer have the iomega zip howto in this system (or can't find it), so I can not check wether you really need ppa or imm - but don't try to load both, or it will not work. That's another thing to try out. Trying to solve a problem like this will not destroy your system. You do not need to reformat. What you need is to learn to type carefully! :-| What will you do if the usb thing doesn't work? There are still things we haven't tried, like for example, activating the kernel log and checking for errors. Or seeing how the bios is setup. Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: imm: Version 2.05 (for Linux 2.4.0) Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: imm: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: imm: Communication established at 0x378 with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: scsi0 : Iomega VPI2 (imm) interface Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: isa bounce pool size: 16 pages Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 250 Rev: J.45 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: SCSI device sda: 489532 512-byte hdwr sectors (251 MB) Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 31 00 00 08 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: SCSI device sda: 489532 512-byte hdwr sectors (251 MB) Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 31 00 00 08 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: sda: sda1 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0, type 0 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: scsi_id[6096]: 0:0:6:0: sg_io failed status 0x8 0x0 0x0 0x2 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: scsi_id[6096]: 0:0:6:0: sense key 0x5 ASC 0x24 ASCQ 0x0 Jan 23 00:22:13 nimrodel kernel: scsi_id[6096]: 0:0:6:0: Unable to get INQUIRY vpd 1 page 0x0. Jan 23 00:22:15 nimrodel kernel: EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended Your log will be different, of course. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFD1CBWtTMYHG2NR9URAln/AJ9FiesOL79QgiRHhBJ1ynx4jky0egCeIj+t e5zG8Y3p/TYNTNzrN/xbNBM= =w7V3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 20:53 -0500, Joe G wrote:

I decided to reinstall when my floppy quit working. I tried to follow another tutorial for Suse 8.0 and then things really became confused. The other tutorial advised that I should load imm into /etc/init.d/boot.something.

Don't. Those things are intended for automatising it, not for testing if it works. I never did. I simply modprobe the module only when I plug the unit. Don't try things at random. Wait for advice, do things carefully, and double check you spelling. Many of the problems you were having were caused by going too rash. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFD1NN4tTMYHG2NR9URAg5EAKCS/49D/aK1Z9sSFqdyOQvHsAUMrACfaEEv jOSDYZZmhbWZ8mNp9skgl0Y= =HEtk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Monday 23 January 2006 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The Sunday 2006-01-22 at 20:53 -0500, Joe G wrote:

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Thank you Carlos.

I'm glad that you are having better luck than me with this. I made a good faith attempt to get this going and devoted almost my whole weekend to it. And I know you folks did, too. But, there comes a point of diminishing returns.

I got a SuSE 10 DVD with a magazine, so I installed it in a new partition. Then, without running any update or configuring anything, I created a mount point for the iomega zip 250 I had connected yesterday to the parallel port, created a corresponding entry in fstab, loaded module imm, and mounted the Zip: absolutely no problem, worked as a charm first time.

It took about one hour to install the system, and two minutes to get the zip mounted and running.

So... it is not impossible.

Version 10 is not broken in this respect - at least, not with "imm", I can't test "ppa". I was afraid that iomega zip support could be broken, but it is not.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Ah, But that's because you're a Linux guru. I use a ProStar 2794 laptop at home mostly as desktop. (I usually carry a different one with me on the road.) There are other issues... Konqueror doesn't show my built- in floppy as mounted, even though I can browse the files and write to it. If i start with my usb flash drive in the usb port, I cannot mount it, even though I click on mount. But, if I connect it after booting, it'll be recognized and let me mount it (and show it mounted). Because this is a laptop, maybe there's a hardware issue here that no amount of tinkering will solve.. I really do like SuSE. It's a really good value for the money, it lets me do the things I need to do, and I like that I can really lock the system down tight. These two issues, the zip drive and the scanner really aren't serious enough to sour me on it. And, I really respect the open source philosophy. -Joe

On Monday 23 January 2006 21:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Frankly, I don't care what konkeror does or doesn't :-P

Seriously, I wouldn't use it to determine if some hardware, drive, whatever, works.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

Hmm, I didn't know Konqueror was buggy. I thought it was giving me a fair representation of my system. Good to. know. I'm coming to SuSE from another distro. The file manager there worked pretty flawlessly. I wasn't looking for this. And to those who are enraged at me for mistyping some lines of code which were later corrected.: I did mention that my eyes might not be as good as they used to be. I have congenital cataracts in the bottom half of both lenses of both eyes. They look like the spokes of the bottom half of an old-fashioned wagon wheel. Now, I;m hardly blind, but, there is a certain amount of glare when staring at ambiguous spacing between the letters of a phrase on something illuminated, like a small laptop screen. I sometimes forget that I have this. And to those who are enraged at me for trying things other than those on this forum: If you review my posts, you'll see that I did try to stop after a certain point. I posted and said thank you to everyone and said that I was going to get a usb zip drive. I t was a rational decision because of a certain obsolescence that seems to be directed to the parallel port anyhow. And, as someone who founded his own business 26 years ago, I've learned that there really can come a point of diminishing returns on an effort. Is it logical to continue indefinitely on a project that's not yielding results when there are other things demanding my attention (and your attention)? I'm like a gambler that enters a casino with only a certain amount of money, determined not to spend a penny more. Survival requires discipline. But, folks kept posting suggestions, and I felt that I did owe you the effort even after I had decided to try another approach because of the time you invested. I started first with a outdated tutorial I found on line. No success. I tried with this group. Even when typing correctly. No success. I the tried another online tutorial.. No success I'm buying a usb zip drive.. success probable. I wish every one of you well. -Joe

On Tuesday 24 January 2006 19:14, Joe G wrote:

I'm buying a usb zip drive.. success probable.

for abt 5 years ZIP drives were the daily backup, but after hard-treatment from guarantee repairs, it seemed faster + cost effective to plug in a spare HardDisk - easily portable & hugely greater capacity :) best wishes

On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 14:14 -0500, Joe G wrote:

I'm buying a usb zip drive.. success probable.

I borrowed one to get data off my collection of zip100 disks. In 9.2 it was automatic without any setup. Unless the newest version of automount / subfs / whatever is flawed you should be fine. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/

On Monday 23 January 2006 22:21, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Joe G [01-23-06 20:55]:

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Ah, But that's because you're a Linux guru.

Who is trying to help you IF you would pay ATTENTION and follow directions, typing accurately.

Thank you. But, you was the output. Even when typing accurately, I still wasn't getting the results I wanted. I only had a brief window last weekend to experiment in. Now, I need my pc. Any rewards I might get until around June or so are outweighed by the risks.

...

I use a ProStar 2794 laptop at home mostly as desktop. (I usually carry a different one with me on the road.) There are other issues... Konqueror doesn't show my built- in floppy as mounted, even though I can browse the files and write to it.

Please explain "Konqueror doesn't show". If not, how can you "browse" the files and write to it.

That's a good question. When I go into Konqueror while there is a floppy in the drive, the little green symbol in the lower right corner of the floppy icon is missing. When I right click, a menu appears that gives me the option on mounting. When I click on Mount, a systerm sound plays, but no little green triangle indicating the floppy is mounted.. However, if I left click on the icon,even if I didn't right click and thwen left click on MOUNT, i can then browse the contents. But, I cannot browse the properties when Right clicking. I'm informed that the disk has O bytes free, 0 bytes total 0 bytes used. But, even though I can view the contents when left clicking, when I right click and then click on PREVIEW IN IMAGE or FILE SIZE VIEW, I either get a blank window or a window that is completely green with a very tiny 0B in the upper right hand corner of the window.

...

If i start with my usb flash drive in the usb port, I cannot mount it, even though I click on mount.

Becasuse it is ALREADY mounted.

No it isn't. Even when the system boots the script states that it is unable to mount /dev/sda1.

...

But, if I connect it after booting, it'll be recognized and let me mount it (and show it mounted).

Again, because it was not already mounted.

No, it isn't. If i boot with the usb flash drive in the usb port, the little green triangle won't appear in the lower right corner of the icon in Konqueror. If I right click on its icon to bring down the menu, I'm given the option to MOUNT. If I click on MOUNT, still no little green triangle and I still cannot browse the contents of the flash drive. A blank window will appear. However, if I unplug, the plug it back in, a dialog box will appear which will give me the option of configuring. If I do, I can then left click on the icon and explore, write to it, whatever.

...

Because this is a laptop, maybe there's a hardware issue here that no amount of tinkering will solve..

PBCAK problem between chair and keyboard

Totally uncalled for.

...

I really do like SuSE. It's a really good value for the money, it lets me do the things I need to do, and I like that I can really lock the system down tight.

These two issues, the zip drive and the scanner really aren't serious enough to sour me on it.

Only issues because of understanding and my first sentence above.

...

And, I really respect the open source philosophy.

As do we.

-- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-01-24 at 01:41 -0500, Joe G wrote:

On Monday 23 January 2006 22:21, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Please explain "Konqueror doesn't show". If not, how can you "browse" the files and write to it.

That's a good question. When I go into Konqueror while there is a floppy in the drive, the little green symbol in the lower right corner of the floppy icon is missing. When I right click, a menu appears that gives me the option on mounting. When I click on Mount, a systerm sound plays, but no little green triangle indicating the floppy is mounted.. However, if I left click on the icon,even if I didn't right click and thwen left click on MOUNT, i can then browse the contents. But, I cannot browse the properties when Right clicking. I'm informed that the disk has O bytes free, 0 bytes total 0 bytes used. But, even though I can view the contents when left clicking, when I right click and then click on PREVIEW IN IMAGE or FILE SIZE VIEW, I either get a blank window or a window that is completely green with a very tiny 0B in the upper right hand corner of the window.

Forget konkeror, damn it! :-| Those gadgets are new and buggy. Use old faithful commands! That konkeror says... bah! Can you browse the floppy, write/read to it? That's all that matters. On Patrick rant, well, perhaps he is a little "edgy", but I think that many of the problems you had with the zip unit were because of typing errors or going too rash. We told you what to do, and then you did something else instead, typed a mistake, failed, and then undid everything or reformatted. That can get US mad. Yes, it is possible that your notebook is special, could be. We didn't have time to explore it. Doing some thing with help from a list like this is not a question of hours, but days or even weeks. You have to be patient. Leave it for some other time, when you get used to Linux, and have free time. But don't write it off as impossible. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFD1gfztTMYHG2NR9URAtfWAKCMi6eco9jdN55Rhh11W2/5CgLibQCdF0O/ R7WJjQPJ3M+3GWW6iskR47s= =9jZQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----