On 20/12/14 15:47, James Knott wrote:

On 12/20/2014 09:09 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:

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Any good suggestions when looking for a smartphone?

My daughter use to have a Sony Experia, and communicating to her laptop only works with some awkward Windows-tool.

And I heard that Samsungs are not Linux-friendly either.

Most important features is being able to the a phone as a storage device, for music, photo's and so on.

All other features can be found in zillions test sites, but none can tell me how 'linux-compatible' a phone is.

I have a Google Nexus 5 phone and it works well with my computer, as does my Nexus 7 tablet. While I can see those devices as storage devices via USB, I find it more convenience to use a file manager on the phone via WiFi. Either way, I have no problem moving files between the device and computer.

It is also easy to connect to a samba smb share, in the settings-storage-external_shares menu. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/20/2014 04:30 PM, John Andersen wrote:

then go get ES File Explorer.

That's what I use, but there are others. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/20/2014 01:41 PM, Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:

On Saturday 20 December 2014 13:30:47 John Andersen wrote:

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On 12/20/2014 06:09 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:

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Any good suggestions when looking for a smartphone?

My daughter use to have a Sony Experia, and communicating to her laptop only works with some awkward Windows-tool.

And I heard that Samsungs are not Linux-friendly either.

Most important features is being able to the a phone as a storage device, for music, photo's and so on.

All other features can be found in zillions test sites, but none can tell me how 'linux-compatible' a phone is.

Hans.

If you plan on cabling the phone to the computer you are doing it wrong. That is not necessary, and simply ads complexity that is not needed. (Cabling is an old iPhone habit that needs to be broken asap).

Get any android you want , then go get ES File Explorer. (Free from the Google market). Fiddle with that for a while and you will find it very capable.

It will talk to samba, ftp, sftp, ftps, webdav cloud-services, etc.

You can move files back and forth, easily on your own wifi network or across the internet, or bluetooth. Its an amazing tool.

The only reason you get the impression that Samsung is not friendly is because you approach the whole project with a usb cable in your hand. Forget that.

Not any android then. I can do exactly as you said with Nexus 7, but my MTK device supports only b/g wifi, and for some reason not able to copy large amounts of data over wifi (looks like connection breaks as soon as lock is activated). So instead of fighting with it for half an hour, I can attach a cable and copy all I need in matter of seconds.

On the other hand, with Nexus 7 it is much simpler to copy over ssh than to dig why MTP does not work, it is both fast and reliable. I'm using the same FX File Explorer on both devices.

Turning off WIFI when device sleeps is also something you can turn off in settings of most devices. I don't know what MTK is, so I can't speak to it specifically. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2014-12-20 at 13:30 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

On 12/20/2014 06:09 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:

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Any good suggestions when looking for a smartphone?

My daughter use to have a Sony Experia, and communicating to her laptop only works with some awkward Windows-tool.

And I heard that Samsungs are not Linux-friendly either.

If you plan on cabling the phone to the computer you are doing it wrong. That is not necessary, and simply ads complexity that is not needed. (Cabling is an old iPhone habit that needs to be broken asap).

Get any android you want , then go get ES File Explorer. (Free from the Google market). Fiddle with that for a while and you will find it very capable.

It will talk to samba, ftp, sftp, ftps, webdav cloud-services, etc.

You can move files back and forth, easily on your own wifi network or across the internet, or bluetooth. Its an amazing tool.

The only reason you get the impression that Samsung is not friendly is because you approach the whole project with a usb cable in your hand. Forget that.

-- After all is said and done, more is said than done.

Thanks for all the replies. It is a major relief to know life isn't that complicated anymore. Just made one person vary happy... as soon as she is finished playing with it, i'll try the ES-File-Explorer! Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Anton Aylward [12-21-14 11:57]:

On 12/20/2014 09:09 AM, Hans Witvliet wrote:

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Any good suggestions when looking for a smartphone?

My daughter use to have a Sony Experia, and communicating to her laptop only works with some awkward Windows-tool.

And I heard that Samsungs are not Linux-friendly either.

Where was that?

I've had five Samsung phones, the original Nexus, and four of the S-series, as well as a couple of tablets. All work fine with Linux, with with a USB cable to my desktop and the Media Transfer protocol making them look like data stores, or using a Files explorer[1], recommended by IIR John Anderson. Here a few months ago. That works as FTP or via SAMBA. Thank you, John.

I've also transferred files on SD cards for the tablet and later model phones, a 32G card. For that I had to install FUSE and exFAT.

You really should have a look at kdeconnect-kde http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

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Most important features is being able to the a phone as a storage device, for music, photo's and so on.

STORAGE! WTF! The phone is for active stuff not archives.

Swap-in/swap-out to a series of ... Well either SD cards or using a OTC cable to USB sticks.

My hip pouch/wallet has slots for extra cards :-)

Unfortunately, I must dismantle the otter case, open phone and remove battery to access the sd card :^(, so I prefer airdroid or wifi-connect (or cable) for accessing the card. Free apps from google-play -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/21/2014 01:18 PM, James Knott wrote:

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You really should have a look at kdeconnect-kde http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ Boy, they sure don't make it easy to use. I installed it on my computer and Android devices. After starting it on the computer, I can't see any devices, nor can I see any on my Android device. Even when I manually

On 12/21/2014 12:30 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: provide the host, I still can't see anything. Is there any documentation anywhere on this? The included README is useless.

BTW, where does it appear in the traditional KDE menu? I can find it by searching in the Application Launcher menu (which I don't like to use) but, even then I can't seem to find out where it is in the menu.

Well, I can now connect between my desktop and Nexus 5 phone, but I can't connect my ThinkPad or Nexus 7 tablet to anything. I also found it in Configure Desktop and as a widget. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [12-21-14 13:20]:

On 12/21/2014 12:30 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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You really should have a look at kdeconnect-kde http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/

Boy, they sure don't make it easy to use. I installed it on my computer and Android devices. After starting it on the computer, I can't see any devices, nor can I see any on my Android device. Even when I manually provide the host, I still can't see anything. Is there any documentation anywhere on this? The included README is useless.

BTW, where does it appear in the traditional KDE menu? I can find it by searching in the Application Launcher menu (which I don't like to use) but, even then I can't seem to find out where it is in the menu.

I only have it as a widget on the taskbar, never looked anywhere else :^) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* James Knott [12-21-14 16:06]:

On 12/21/2014 02:45 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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BTW, where does it appear in the traditional KDE menu? I can find it by

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searching in the Application Launcher menu (which I don't like to use) but, even then I can't seem to find out where it is in the menu. I only have it as a widget on the taskbar, never looked anywhere else :^)

I finally found it as a widget to add to the task bar and also in Configure Desktop. However, I still can't get it to work on my Thinkpad E520. It's working on my desktop though. Both are running openSUSE 13.1.

Tw here. Have several other local boxes, two laptops, but have not tried to use it there. Maybe later. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/21/2014 08:22 PM, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

Quoting James Knott :

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On 12/21/2014 02:45 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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BTW, where does it appear in the traditional KDE menu? I can find it by

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searching in the Application Launcher menu (which I don't like to use) but, even then I can't seem to find out where it is in the menu. I only have it as a widget on the taskbar, never looked anywhere else :^) I finally found it as a widget to add to the task bar and also in Configure Desktop. However, I still can't get it to work on my Thinkpad E520. It's working on my desktop though. Both are running openSUSE 13.1. On my T520, trying to download photos with Digikam via MTP from a Samsung Galaxy S4 takes a very long time. I'm not sure if it has ever completed. This may be something unique to Thinkpads.

I don't think it's the same issue. I've never had a problem transferring files to/from Android devices with my E520. I don't even see the Android devices in KDE Connect. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org