I am consistently getting extremely SLOW response when I attempt to do online updates using Yast (manual or automatic). It sits at the 'Initializing for FTP/HTTP update. One moment please....' for more than an hour sometimes. I have tried several sites on the list. I am brand new to SuSE and wondered if this is a known issue or if there is some problem that I need to fix. The linux box (8.1) is at my work location so has a 10MB connection to the internet. I see NO speed issues when I simply browse to the web. Ideas please??!!! Thanks N _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
You are not alone. YOU is horrible. I haven't heard anything from SuSE about why this is, or what they are going to do about it. I can't believe it's the ftp servers, cuz if you log into the ftp site by hand, the downloads go very smoothly. I don't think SuSE is working on this at all. Must be getting 8.2 ready or something, or they are just about to give up on Yast (I can only hope). Someone mentioned an alternative online updater, but can't remember what it was. Search the mail-list archives on SuSEs website, should be a post from the last week or two. chris
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I am consistently getting extremely SLOW response when I attempt to do online updates using Yast (manual or automatic). It sits at the 'Initializing for FTP/HTTP update. One moment please....' for more than an hour sometimes. I have tried several sites on the list. I am brand new to SuSE and wondered if this is a known issue or if there is some problem that I need to fix. The linux box (8.1) is at my work location so has a 10MB connection to the internet. I see NO speed issues when I simply browse to the web. Ideas please??!!! Thanks N
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On Friday 10 January 2003 12:46 pm, Chris Geske wrote:
Someone mentioned an alternative online updater, but can't remember what it was. Search the mail-list archives on SuSEs website, should be a post from the last week or two.
almost forgot -- "fou4s" -- <F>ast <O>nline <U>pdate <4> <S>uSE http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/
On Friday 10 January 2003 20:46, Chris Geske wrote:
You are not alone. YOU is horrible. I haven't heard anything from SuSE about why this is, or what they are going to do about it. I can't believe it's the ftp servers, cuz if you log into the ftp site by hand, the downloads go very smoothly.
I don't think SuSE is working on this at all. Must be getting 8.2 ready or something, or they are just about to give up on Yast (I can only hope).
Someone mentioned an alternative online updater, but can't remember what it was. Search the mail-list archives on SuSEs website, should be a post from the last week or two.
That'll be fou4s, available at sourceforge... Haven't used it (yet) myself Dylan -- "Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars" Billy Bragg
On Friday 10 January 2003 11:32 am, netsec novice wrote:
I am consistently getting extremely SLOW response when I attempt to do online updates using Yast (manual or automatic). It sits at the 'Initializing for FTP/HTTP update. One moment please....' for more than an hour sometimes.
This is/was a "boo-boo" on the part of the SuSE developers -- it isn't really "sitting there" -- it is actually doing HUNDREDS of "wget" commands in the background and not reporting the fact that it is "doing anything" (i.e., no "comforting user feedback" was given -- I suspect that this was tested "in house" on a 100megabit or better lan, so for them, the "please wait" was only a few moments...) I have DSL myself [384k, roughly 40k-bytes/second actual throughput] and it can take several minutes. Be aware that LOTS of people are hitting these servers [many probably automated]. One thing I do that makes me "feel better" is to open a terminal window, "su" to root, and issue the command: ps x | grep wget and periodically refresh this with <up-arrow><enter> -- at least, this way I can see which file is being processed and [in some cases] the relative size of the file; likewise, you can do a directory listing of the area YOU uses to store the downloaded files; that gives you an idea of how long it is taking per file...
On Friday 10 January 2003 20:51, Tom Emerson wrote:
On Friday 10 January 2003 11:32 am, netsec novice wrote:
I am consistently getting extremely SLOW response when I attempt to do online updates using Yast (manual or automatic). It sits at the 'Initializing for FTP/HTTP update. One moment please....' for more than an hour sometimes.
This is/was a "boo-boo" on the part of the SuSE developers -- it isn't really "sitting there" -- it is actually doing HUNDREDS of "wget" commands in the background and not reporting the fact that it is "doing anything" (i.e., no "comforting user feedback" was given -- I suspect that this was tested "in house" on a 100megabit or better lan, so for them, the "please wait" was only a few moments...)
I have DSL myself [384k, roughly 40k-bytes/second actual throughput] and it can take several minutes. Be aware that LOTS of people are hitting these servers [many probably automated]. One thing I do that makes me "feel better" is to open a terminal window, "su" to root, and issue the command:
ps x | grep wget
and periodically refresh this with <up-arrow><enter> -- at least, this way I can see which file is being processed and [in some cases] the relative size of the file; likewise, you can do a directory listing of the area YOU uses to store the downloaded files; that gives you an idea of how long it is taking per file...
A mail on this list last year (subject SuSE 8.1 broken?) suggested that you edit /etc/wgetrc and jhange the line #passive_ftp = off by removing the # and changing off to on. Haven't tried it myself though. Pam R -- sed s/MS/Linux/ Linux StepbyStep: http://www.linux-sxs.org/stepbystep.html
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