I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday January 16 2007 10:07 pm, Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I think he's asking about what application to use. This IS a problem in Linux, as there's no GUI app. that I know of. Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 19:12, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday January 16 2007 10:07 pm, Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I think he's asking about what application to use. This IS a problem in Linux, as there's no GUI app. that I know of.
Fred
Whats wrong with yast? It has disk formating utility built in, and I've done memory sticks in the past, way back in 9.1 days with yast. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Tuesday January 16 2007 10:07 pm, Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I think he's asking about what application to use. This IS a problem in Linux, as there's no GUI app. that I know of.
They appear in Yast Partitioner on my system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 17 2007 7:21 am, James Knott wrote:
I think he's asking about what application to use. This IS a problem in Linux, as there's no GUI app. that I know of.
They appear in Yast Partitioner on my system.
That's the only option, as far as I know. What I had hoped for, and some others as well, was a different app. so one doesn't have to go into Yast. Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 16:54, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Wednesday January 17 2007 7:21 am, James Knott wrote:
I think he's asking about what application to use. This IS a problem in Linux, as there's no GUI app. that I know of.
They appear in Yast Partitioner on my system.
That's the only option, as far as I know. What I had hoped for, and some others as well, was a different app. so one doesn't have to go into Yast.
Fred
As root in a terminal window you can use yast for the ncurses version or yast2 for the GUI version, <SPACE> and then hit the <TAB> key for all the various options to run a single instance of say 'yast2 disk &' for the partitioner or 'yast2 lan &' for NIC config. The ampersand backgrounds the process which allows you to run more than one thing from that single terminal window. Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 17 2007 6:48 pm, S Glasoe wrote:
That's the only option, as far as I know. What I had hoped for, and some others as well, was a different app. so one doesn't have to go into Yast.
Fred
As root in a terminal window you can use yast for the ncurses version or yast2 for the GUI version, <SPACE> and then hit the <TAB> key for all the various options to run a single instance of say 'yast2 disk &' for the partitioner or 'yast2 lan &' for NIC config. The ampersand backgrounds the process which allows you to run more than one thing from that single terminal window.
Good idea.......thanks! Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I format mine with FAT32, if they're not that already. I use FAT because I often use them with Windows computers. On the other hand, I've got a 160 GB external USB drive, which I've formatted with ext3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 17 2007 7:16 am, James Knott wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I format mine with FAT32, if they're not that already. I use FAT because I often use them with Windows computers. On the other hand, I've got a 160 GB external USB drive, which I've formatted with ext3.
Yeah......sooner or later I've got to get one....wish they were a bunch quicker, however. Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:52:52 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Yeah......sooner or later I've got to get one....wish they were a bunch quicker, however.
Take one with SATA connection like the new external Seagate drive. No difference in Speed to internal drives. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 17 2007 7:38 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:52:52 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Yeah......sooner or later I've got to get one....wish they were a bunch quicker, however.
Take one with SATA connection like the new external Seagate drive. No difference in Speed to internal drives.
'No external SATA connection on this box. I'm thinking of waiting for SATA II as the specs are much better. Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Fred Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> [01-18-07 00:22]: [...]
'No external SATA connection on this box. I'm thinking of waiting for SATA II as the specs are much better.
available via plug-in cards and/or cable connectors that plug into the sata controller with an external port. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/18/07, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote:
On Wednesday January 17 2007 7:38 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:52:52 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Yeah......sooner or later I've got to get one....wish they were a bunch quicker, however.
Take one with SATA connection like the new external Seagate drive. No difference in Speed to internal drives.
'No external SATA connection on this box. I'm thinking of waiting for SATA II as the specs are much better.
Fred
Be careful of "SATA II". I'm not really sure what it is, but it does not always mean 300 MB/sec. For that, "SATA 300" can be relied on AFAIK. If you have an unused internal SATA connector you can get a eSATA adaptor cable. I bought one from Micro Center recently. ($5.99) http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id... They also have a 2 connector version if you need 2 eSata connectors. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/17/07, Joseph Loo <jloo@acm.org> wrote:
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
After you plug the stick, issue dmesg in a terminal window to see at the end if there are any problems. dmesg should show you as well which device the stick is attached to (sda, etc.). -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
I tried it in both 10.1 and 10.2 after reading your original post. No problems with eithe rone and it does show up fine with fat32 using "My Computer" Icon which is really just Konqueror. You may want try: lsusb command after putting the stick in. Also, can you check to see if the USB is working on that computer outside of the sticks? Is the USB bus overloaded with current draining devices on that machine? Bottom line is that your situation can not be reproduced on my 10.2 machines. I think reformatting may be a waste of time. Also, if lsusb doesn't see it you won't be able to reformat it anyway on that machine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
I tried it in both 10.1 and 10.2 after reading your original post. No problems with eithe rone and it does show up fine with fat32 using "My Computer" Icon which is really just Konqueror. You may want try: lsusb command after putting the stick in. Also, can you check to see if the USB is working on that computer outside of the sticks? Is the USB bus overloaded with current draining devices on that machine?
Bottom line is that your situation can not be reproduced on my 10.2 machines. I think reformatting may be a waste of time. Also, if lsusb doesn't see it you won't be able to reformat it anyway on that machine.
I tried lsusb and the device does not show up. I tried it with 2 other computers, one 10.0 & 10.1. It sows up without any problem. It is the only device plugged into the computer slot. To the drain problem, I can not tell. You might have brought up a situation where the on board USB is a problem. I just tried on another prot and it comes up without a problem. It looks like I have a defective port. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
I tried it in both 10.1 and 10.2 after reading your original post. No problems with eithe rone and it does show up fine with fat32 using "My Computer" Icon which is really just Konqueror. You may want try: lsusb command after putting the stick in. Also, can you check to see if the USB is working on that computer outside of the sticks? Is the USB bus overloaded with current draining devices on that machine?
Bottom line is that your situation can not be reproduced on my 10.2 machines. I think reformatting may be a waste of time. Also, if lsusb doesn't see it you won't be able to reformat it anyway on that machine.
I tried lsusb and the device does not show up. I tried it with 2 other computers, one 10.0 & 10.1. It sows up without any problem. It is the only device plugged into the computer slot. To the drain problem, I can not tell. You might have brought up a situation where the on board USB is a problem.
I just tried on another prot and it comes up without a problem. It looks like I have a defective port.
I have two USB ports on the front of my machine and they are defective. I have spent the time yet to replace the cable and see if things improve. This is a 10.2 machine too and not reading the USB stick but I have three others that are reading it that are 10.2. So I think your on to something. Do you have any other USB devices you plug in and try? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
I tried it in both 10.1 and 10.2 after reading your original post. No problems with eithe rone and it does show up fine with fat32 using "My Computer" Icon which is really just Konqueror. You may want try: lsusb command after putting the stick in. Also, can you check to see if the USB is working on that computer outside of the sticks? Is the USB bus overloaded with current draining devices on that machine?
Bottom line is that your situation can not be reproduced on my 10.2 machines. I think reformatting may be a waste of time. Also, if lsusb doesn't see it you won't be able to reformat it anyway on that machine.
I tried lsusb and the device does not show up. I tried it with 2 other computers, one 10.0 & 10.1. It sows up without any problem. It is the only device plugged into the computer slot. To the drain problem, I can not tell. You might have brought up a situation where the on board USB is a problem.
I just tried on another prot and it comes up without a problem. It looks like I have a defective port.
I have two USB ports on the front of my machine and they are defective. I have spent the time yet to replace the cable and see if things improve. This is a 10.2 machine too and not reading the USB stick but I have three others that are reading it that are 10.2. So I think your on to something. Do you have any other USB devices you plug in and try?
I plugged it intoa another port on the machine. It now can read it. I am beginning to suspect that the actual physical port on the machine itself could have a problem as oppose to the motherboard. One thing that I noticed, when I plugged the device into the computer, it would cause a reboot. That probably is an indication of a short or something is happeing on he mother bard. I gues I will have to open up the unit to check it out. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
Joseph Loo wrote:
> I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick > is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was > thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do > this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all. > > > > > > > > I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I was going to format it as either a standard FAT or FAT32. The problem is that the USB stick shows up under 10.0 & 10.1. In 10.2, it says the partition table is not recognize. I need to repartition the USB stick and reformat it. Second problem, the stick does not show up in YAST so I can not d anything with it.
I tried it in both 10.1 and 10.2 after reading your original post. No problems with eithe rone and it does show up fine with fat32 using "My Computer" Icon which is really just Konqueror. You may want try: lsusb command after putting the stick in. Also, can you check to see if the USB is working on that computer outside of the sticks? Is the USB bus overloaded with current draining devices on that machine?
Bottom line is that your situation can not be reproduced on my 10.2 machines. I think reformatting may be a waste of time. Also, if lsusb doesn't see it you won't be able to reformat it anyway on that machine.
I tried lsusb and the device does not show up. I tried it with 2 other computers, one 10.0 & 10.1. It sows up without any problem. It is the only device plugged into the computer slot. To the drain problem, I can not tell. You might have brought up a situation where the on board USB is a problem.
I just tried on another prot and it comes up without a problem. It looks like I have a defective port.
I have two USB ports on the front of my machine and they are defective. I have spent the time yet to replace the cable and see if things improve. This is a 10.2 machine too and not reading the USB stick but I have three others that are reading it that are 10.2. So I think your on to something. Do you have any other USB devices you plug in and try?
I plugged it intoa another port on the machine. It now can read it. I am beginning to suspect that the actual physical port on the machine itself could have a problem as oppose to the motherboard. One thing that I noticed, when I plugged the device into the computer, it would cause a reboot. That probably is an indication of a short or something is happeing on he mother bard. I gues I will have to open up the unit to check it out.
I think you have it nailed now. Thanks for reporting back the status. I recently had a front panel USB connector fall apart. That is a black plastic piece came out with the USB plug I inserted. It's defective, nothing I can do but replace if I can find a replacment. Otherwise, throw it away and I'll use a hub off the back of the computer where I can sit the hub on top. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
From: Robert Lewis <rll@felton.felton.ca.us> To: SUSE General Forum <opensuse@opensuse.org>
Joseph Loo wrote: I have a memory stick that works under 10.0 and 10.1. In 10.2 the stick is not recognizable because the partion table is not recognized. I was thinking of repartition the stick and reformat it. Is it possible to do this under 10.2. I tried YAST but the driver does not show up at all.
I purchased 4-memory sticks today and tried them all out on both 10.1 and 10.2 everything reads and works well. They automatically detected. To reformat one you will have decide what filesystedm you wish.
I wonder if this might be related to the dvd/cd problem as described in earlier posts. Some work, some do not. Damned frustrating. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph, Did you repartition it after you bought it? I have a USB drive which doesn't support to be partitioned... Eg on Linux it's actually mounted on /dev/sda I have another disk without this problem, and it mounts on /dev/sda1... Might be interesting to investigate ;) Cheers, -- Rory Slegtenhorst rory dot slegtenhorst at gmail dot com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rory Slegtenhorst wrote:
Joseph,
Did you repartition it after you bought it?
I have a USB drive which doesn't support to be partitioned... Eg on Linux it's actually mounted on /dev/sda I have another disk without this problem, and it mounts on /dev/sda1...
Might be interesting to investigate ;)
Cheers, I never repartition it at all. Yes it does show up as /dev/sda on 10.0 & 10.1. Bu t I have MP3 player that is set up similiar but it seems to be okay.
-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed January 17 2007 08:13, Rory Slegtenhorst wrote:
Joseph,
Did you repartition it after you bought it?
I have a USB drive which doesn't support to be partitioned... Eg on Linux it's actually mounted on /dev/sda I have another disk without this problem, and it mounts on /dev/sda1...
My iRiver 895 player acts as a USB device after firmware upgrade to UMS-based version, but it also requires no partitions in order for the player to see the music/podcasts. Every couple of months I have to reformat it, because the podcasts start to become corrupted. My recipe for reformatting is: - Use "mount" to find which device is being assigned to the player, say /dev/sda.
su # umount /dev/sda # mkfs -V -t vfat -c -I /dev/sda
The option -I (dash, capital i) is what forces the formatting of the entire disk without partitions. Reboot the device and everything is fine again. Carlos FL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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