[opensuse] openSUSE and faxes
I would like to be able to send and receive faxes using my openSUSE v10.3 system. A bit of looking around showed that there are not many applications to do this -- actually only one, HylaFax, which I thought likely to be more capable than the combination of sendfax+mgetty, I have downloaded and installed HylaFax. Surprisingly, HylaFax does not sport a GUI, as far as I have been able to discover. I find it difficult to believe that many people, having acquired a sophisticated operating system like SuSE, will be content with command-line operation, so I have to wonder if I have overlooked another available application. What do people do for fax service in SuSE? Or do only few people use this OS for faxing? I have stumbled upon a Java app that is intended to be a GUI for HylaFax. This is SUSEFax, which seems to be the product of someone at SuSE in Germany. It was first released in 1997 (sic), but is also available in a later beta (v1.0beta3) dated 1999, even for x86_64 at RPM.PBONE.NET. It is labeled src.rpm for SuSE v9. Before I get into compiling it (something I have not done so far), I would like to ask some questions about it. The 1997 webpage says that the docs are in German only. A later user wrote on a forum that the 1999 release has English docs, but all the labels in the GUI are in German (a decade after first release, and still in beta). Does anyone have later information? Has the developer recovered a desire to finish what he started? The program shouts "Half-Done Abandonware" Fax apps on other OSes make the sending operation a matter of "printing" from the application that created the document to the fax app; does SUSEfax do that? This is not mentioned in any of the webpages I have found. It is said only that one can send faxes from the phone book. So at minimum, there are at least two stages in sending a fax. The HylaFax webpage speaks of the need for Ghostscript. What is this for? Since faxes arrive in raster form, not as either ASCII codes or Postscript formatting information, what does Ghostscript have to contribute to the fax function? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/10/2008 03:48 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:
Depending on your hardware, there is at least one more. If you have an HP OfficeJet, that has fax capability, there is HPLIP, which provides for scanning, printing, and faxing. It sets up a printing queue for the fax, so as you mention further down you print from the app to the "fax printer", and then use HPLIP's GUI hp-toolbox to send the document. It works pretty well. I use it with an OfficeJet 5610. HTH -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-02-09 at 21:48 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
Hylafax is a fax server (a very good one), and as such, it doesn't need a GUI - same as most or all services in Linux don't. However, there are many clients that can connect to hylafax and some of them are GUIs; there are java clients, for example, that work in windows. Just have a look at the hylafax website and choose one you like.
Because faxes are sent to the server as postscript, and because it usually sends them to the user as postscript, too (or tiff or pdf, if so configured). You don't see the raster. For example, you can configure your system as a mail server that converts mails to faxes and sends them, and viceversa. Or you can print to a samba printer that faxes the pages. There are many possibilities. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHrlkjtTMYHG2NR9URArIbAJ4jP+Bs4vlD99bjMTTRDQ9U3HboxACfbztU KCZxuO/cZVuz5C1mUYdmxec= =D2aC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 February 2008 03:53:29 Carlos E. R. wrote:
De gustibus....
Another reply has mentioned jHylaFax, which sounds very interesting.
That answers the question. Thanks.
Yes. I have found a reference to a webpage describing how to send faxes through CUPS (www.jennings.homelinux/fax_cups.html), which sounds interesting. Unfortunately, the site no longer exists, although the URL still brings up the server.
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On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 21:48 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
Locate a copy of jhylafax, and install this. You will have a GUI front end for sending faxes. Note, the version that I have does not auto update the send state of the fax, and with the modem speaker turned off you will not really know if your phone line is free. BTW there is KdeprintFax (kdeprintfax -caption "%c" %i %m %u -- on the command line.) {snip} Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 10 February 2008 05:12:08 Mike McMullin wrote:
Very interesting. After a lot of googling, jHylafax never turned up. But now I know why SUSEfax has been a decade without update -- it morphed to jHylaFax. Since the SUSEfax page still exists at Sourceforge, on the other hand, one wonders why its developer hasn't thought to put a single sentence in it to point to jHylaFax. I do have a thought about that, but this isn't the place for it. Thank you much for your information. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:45 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I no longer have the archive kicking around my system, but I can compress and send you the directory that I un-archived it into. I copied this over to /opt/jhylafax. I altered the script to run it from there and placed it in my /home/<user>/bin directory. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-02-10 at 09:01 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:45 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
jHylaFax resides on sourceforge. A search lasting a grand total of 20 seconds found it. It is a branch of SuSEFax, not a morph, which explains why it is not mentioned there. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHrxUstTMYHG2NR9URAm4/AJ44gtA2Jl4VhFVIJ48OIm7zenaPfQCfakIG giOG6H3DvDT84nAvSmQ6CyA= =Ji64 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman wrote:
We have the fax-service (from Hylafax) setup as a faxprinter. It makes it very easy to send a fax directly from openoffice for instance. (which is what I typically do). /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:49 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Which release are you on Per? I just did a pin on my 10.2 system and this was the output: pin 0.36 - package info for hylafax ------------------------------------------------------------------ *** no rpm named hylafax installed ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ *** zgrep hylafax /var/lib/pin/ARCHIVES.gz ------------------------------------------------------------------ ./DVD1/suse/i586/sendfax-1.1.33-37.i586.rpm: The sendfax part of mgetty. You can use it instead of hylafax for ./DVD1/suse/noarch/susehelp-2006.06.20-25.noarch.rpm: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 308 Nov 25 19:46 /usr/share/susehelp/met a/Administration/Hardware/hylafax.desktop -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-02-10 at 21:12 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
... Unfortunately, pin can not usually find hylafax, because it is not in the downloadable dvd, but it is on the OSS repository instead. Pin only searches the archive file from the dvd (and the installed rpm database, of course). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHr7cAtTMYHG2NR9URAtBDAJ4jZ4a6DBi+zm5bUp8l8qY/1BWWdACggIEc wzaPzWtaKrjaGDoZfUz7yBU= =Fner -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 February 2008 04:12:07 Mike McMullin wrote:
Believe it or not, I do not understand either question, even after reading the info page for <pin>. Can you please explain?
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On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 09:38 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I had faxing under hylafax, with jhylafax as the gui, set up under openSuSE 10.1. I did an upgrade to 10.2 on the system, but not having much need to fax recently I did not bother to try setting it up until now. I used pin to tell me if it was installed, or what version was available.
From this it doesn't look to be. I'll dig into this later. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 February 2008 12:59:57 Mike McMullin wrote:
I would never have got that from "What release are you on Per". What's "Per"?
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* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@hashkedim.com> [02-11-08 07:54]: ...
I would never have got that from "What release are you on Per". What's "Per"?
On openSUSE member's name. ps: Please trim your quotes. thankyou, -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 01:10:24 Mike McMullin wrote: -----snip-----
Sorry. I have a filter that flags messages from this forum when the body contains my name. Usually, that means they are for me. Clearly, 'tain't necessarily so. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
[snip] Hello: I have configured efax-gtk recently. It works well so far. You can find here a guide how to install it (2nd post): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/ problem-faxing-from-suse-10.2- 533654/?highlight=Problem+Faxing+from+SuSE+10.2 It is for 10.2 but works on 10.3 too. Hope it helps. IG ________________________________________________________ Ismerkedsz? Vizsgára készülsz? Mindezt a neten? Ideje innen intézned pénzügyeidet is! http://www.klikkbank.hu/lakossagi/termekek/diak_szamlacsomag/index.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 11 February 2008 13:11:50 Istvan Gabor wrote:
Thanks for writing, Istvan. I have found the instructions that you mention. They would help if I could find an appropriate package of efax-gtk; do you know where I could find one for x86_64? I have spent most of the afternoon looking for one, without success. The sites mentioned by Google either are about news, or they don't answer at all. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Stan: I don't think you can find an rpm. I have compiled myself the efax-gtk package from source. I could send you the package but I use 32 bit system so it's not good for you. However compiling the package is very easy and runs smooth (at least on my system). The guide explains from point to point how to do it. 1. Make sure you have the required packages. I have gtk2, gtk2-devel, libgnome (2.20xxx), libgnome-devel (2.20xxx), libsigc++2, libsig++2-devel. Naturally you need gcc and make. You might need checkinstall if you want make an rpm package. 2. Download efax-gtk source file (efax-gtk-3.0.16.src.tgz) from the site the guide refers to. 3. Uncompress the source.
tar -zxvf efax-gtk-3.0.16.src.tgz # this creates efax-gtk- 3.0.16.src.tgz folder
Now you can run make install to install the package or checkinstall make install to make an rpm. The rpm can be installed by rpm. 4. Create a fax printer. The easiest way is: as root: # /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p FaxPrinter -E -v socket://localhost:9900 5. Now make a copy of efax-gtkrc in your home dir as follows, as a normal user (not root)
cp /usr/local/etc/efax-gtkrc ~/.efax-gtkrc
5. Edit your .efax-gtkrc file. At the end of the file uncomment "WORK_SUBDIR:" and specify a working directory, eg FAX WORK_SUBDIR: FAX Save the edited file. 6. Create the FAX dir in your home dir. (mkdir FAX) 7. Now run in a console:
8. Now you can start to use the fax program. I hope this helps. IG Papírképek akár ingyen! Digitális fényképezőgépek már 5000 Ft ajándék fotókidolgozással a FotoMarket Online Fotóáruházban! http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,99786,162268/click.prm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-12-08 15:25]: ....
Do use "checkinstall" to generate an rpm for install. You will present yourself with a much better chance of recovery in case of unforseen problems this way and preclude the possibility of overwritting unknowingly files of possibly different version required by other apps on your box. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 17:19 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I found it in 30 seconds, including the time to start firefox :-P Look it up in webpin. There are two repositories with the rpm. Hint: find webpin in the opensuse.org site. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHshKTtTMYHG2NR9URArwJAJ9YCHp74uJjc9N45foEeVV/lcnnUgCcDsyl TKfZRHfcj9gb/rcgD6qwXEY= =kWzM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 23:41:38 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The obvious conclusion is that you are much better at it than I am, and I am not surprised. I'm grateful that you have pointed it out to me. I did look in quite a number of sites, rpm.pbone net just for one example, that have great numbers of packages, and found lots for other distributions.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 00:00 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
No, I simply have searched for suse rpms before. <http://packages.opensuse-community.org/index.jsp?searchTerm=efax-gtk&distro=openSUSE_103> However, I don't know if it has the 64 bit version or not. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHsihltTMYHG2NR9URAqZ7AKCEBhnRjX2vPWFq/xAZfhYlhjhaqgCfSGzq k/jFmdL0me+9jNbPWVBnUKg= =NCn+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 01:14:44 Carlos E. R. wrote:
But that is WHY you are far more effective than me; you have more experience in finding where the bodies are buried. And you probably heard about webpin previously. Don't be modest.
The 32bit version is thick on the ground. I would not have asked in this forum if I wanted the 32bit version.
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Carlos E. R.
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Istvan Gabor
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Joe Morris
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Mike McMullin
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Patrick Shanahan
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Per Jessen
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Stan Goodman