[opensuse] Toshiba Satellite Laptop & UEFI Secure Boot Fail
I am trying to install Leap 42.2 on a Toshiba Satellite i7 laptop that is a few years old. The only way I can get the 42.2 USB key image I created on my main 42.2 desktop to boot is to shut Secure Boot off in the UEFI firmare on this laptop. If it's enabled I get this error message programmed into the firmware: "Boot failure: A proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the secure boot feature." So essentially I am being forced to use Windows if I want secure boot. If I want to use openSUSE, I have to downgrade the entire security of the machine. Is there any way around this? For years I kept reading about how great UEFI is and how it's the future of booting. But I have dealt with 100-fold more problems helping people (and myself) get out of UEFI booby traps, with crappy vendor UEFI firmware that is buggy and not Linux-friendly, vendor lock-in, bad EFI vars stuck in the firmware that prevent the computer from booting at all, and firmware updates or power loss that clear the NVRAM which then completely wipes out the EFI vars and the system is left unbootable. It that last example, the user would have to run a Linux rescue disk and run a series of commands to re-write the variables back into the nvram. What average user knows how to do that? So we have some additional security at the cost of reliability. I never had any of these issues with BIOS-based PC's, and as soon as UEFI computers hit the market the openSUSE forums lit up with 100's-1000's of people writing in about all types of problems that all were all due to UEFI. It seems to me that all UEFI did is create additonal variables with people's computers that could go awry, and it's bloated and overly complicated to just simply boot a computer. It's an OS to boot the OS. Manufacturers appeared to take whatever UEFI standard that was created and bastardize it. There needs to be a consortium that specifically focuses on actually making manufacturers adhere to the exact UEFI standard if they want to use the UEFI name and logo, and make it so users are not locked into using Windows only. It looks to me that UEFI has taken the same direcion as ACPI. Hardware vendors writing the specs of their hardware to interop with Microsoft's non-standard driver programming. The BIOS standard could have been improved and expanded, and instead of doing that, they threw it away and wrote this bloated kludge standard called "UEFI" that manufacturers don't adhere to more often than not. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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I am trying to install Leap 42.2 on a Toshiba Satellite i7 laptop that is a few years old. The only way I can get the 42.2 USB key image I created on my main 42.2 desktop to boot is to shut Secure Boot off in the UEFI firmare on this laptop. If it's enabled I get this error message programmed into the firmware: "Boot failure: A proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the secure boot feature."
/** very descriptive rant providing no useful information removed **/ I have a ~2 year old Toshiba Satellite i7 laptop running TW using UEFI. I had no problems installing TW other than the extra steps necessary to UEFI, but you have not given anyone any information describing your process other than it fails. istr that all I did was follow the process advised on the opensuse site, but that was several years ago. Satellite S55-C5274 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/25/2016 04:46 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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I have a ~2 year old Toshiba Satellite i7 laptop running TW using UEFI. I had no problems installing TW other than the extra steps necessary to UEFI, but you have not given anyone any information describing your process other than it fails.
istr that all I did was follow the process advised on the opensuse site, but that was several years ago.
Satellite S55-C5274
I described exactly the process I used and it makes 100% sense. I don't know how much more clear I can be. I didn't ask for your experience on your 2 year old Toshiba either. And you didn't mention anything about secure boot either, which is where the problem lies. So obviously you didn't read the email and all you are really doing is trolling (again). What I asked about is using 42.2 with Secure boot which does not work, but apparenly that was too complicated of a writeup for you to grasp. Again: "The only way I can get the 42.2 USB key image I created on my main 42.2 desktop to boot is to shut Secure Boot off in the UEFI firmware on this laptop. If it's enabled I get this error message programmed into the firmware: "Boot failure: A proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the secure boot feature." So the system doesn't boot with secure boot on, yet Windows 10 will. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, sdm
"The only way I can get the 42.2 USB key image I created on my main 42.2 desktop to boot is to shut Secure Boot off in the UEFI firmware on this laptop. If it's enabled I get this error message programmed into the firmware: "Boot failure: A proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the secure boot feature." So the system doesn't boot with secure boot on, yet Windows 10 will.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990650 may be relevant. It also hints how you can verify this by stripping openSUSE signature. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/25/2016 05:42 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990650 may be relevant. It also hints how you can verify this by stripping openSUSE signature. That sounds like the same exact problem I'm running into. I'll just keep secure boot disabled as I updated to the latest firmware on this laptop and it didn't resolve this issue. Thanks.
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Le 25/11/2016 à 14:05, sdm a écrit :
your 2 year old Toshiba either. And you didn't mention anything about secure boot either, which is where the problem lies.
I installed several uefi computer, with various problems, but none with secureboot... not 42.2 though (not yet) that said you can disable secureboot that have nothing secure at all jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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