[opensuse] Browser behavior
In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. "cnn", without "com" (at least for the "com" case, if not others, and FF would make the guess. That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror). The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website. Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL? I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find "com" by themselves. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman wrote:
In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. "cnn", without "com" (at least for the "com" case, if not others, and FF would make the guess.
That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror).
The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website.
Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL?
I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find "com" by themselves.
I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote:
Stan Goodman wrote:
In other OSes here, When Firefox is unable to find the URL entered in the navigation field, it says so (Error 404). And it is possible to enter into the the field a URL less top domain, e.g. "cnn", without "com" (at least for the "com" case, if not others, and FF would make the guess.
That is not what happens in the browsers on my openSUSE v10.3. I have been trying to understand what actually does happen -- in both Firefox and Konqueror. Entering a defective URL in either browser brings the home page of my own web page, and I am unable to find why or how browsers do this. My Firefox home page is a blank page, not my website; I have cleared Browsing History and Cache, the only places I can think of where that URL is known to Firefox (which shouldn't matter anyway to Konqueror).
The same thing happens if I enter into the Alt-F2 field a program name not known ti the system: Konqueror obliges with my website.
Where have I neglected to remove the offending URL?
I am assuming that straightening this out will also enable browsers to find "com" by themselves.
I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message.
I wish I could say the same thing. I was surprised when this developed when I installed v10.3 on clean partitions. It didn't happen in the previous installation (v10.2), and I hoped the reason was because of something foolish that I had done. I'm still hoping. I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:56:27 am Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote: ...
I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message. ... I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file.
I have seen the other page instead of error, but that has nothing to do with browsers. The trick is that if DNS query should give error my provider redirects browser to their advertising page. The same happens if their DNS server has no answer (guess: it times out), I get the same. I was thinking about how they do that. Probably they use proxy that is replacing failed DNS query with adds. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 20 January 2008 19:22:00 Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:56:27 am Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:05:27 James Knott wrote:
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I have never seen that behaviour. When I attempt to go to a bogus site, both Firefox and Konqueror give an error message.
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I do find it curious that the same behavior exhibited by both Firefox and Konqueror -- two independent applications that, as far as I know, do not share any elements. If they do share e.g. a dll, I suppose that would finger the shared file.
I have seen the other page instead of error, but that has nothing to do with browsers.
The trick is that if DNS query should give error my provider redirects browser to their advertising page. The same happens if their DNS server has no answer (guess: it times out), I get the same.
I was thinking about how they do that. Probably they use proxy that is replacing failed DNS query with adds.
That's simple programming. But in my case the "default" page belongs to me, as does the domain. That may be the answer to "why is THAT page the default" -- its address is the same as the domain of my email address -- but it would need to add the top domain to do that. But it is very annoying. And the question remains what software is causing it, since it is independent of the browser. This does not happen with OS/2 using the same name servers. For that matter, I don't remember it happening with openSuSE v10.2. And it doesn't happen with the v10.3 of other people. Nevertheless, I could try other name servers. Maybe this one is taking too long to suit SuSE, but I doubt that -- it is too consistent. What bothers me is that it is connected with the inability for the browser to complete a URL with the "com". Firefox knows how to do that, but it seems not get a chance to try. The jump to my website seems instantaneous; it doesn't even think about top domains.
-- Regards, Rajko
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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